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Old 03-02-2009, 02:40 PM    (permalink
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Wr: Hines Ward - 86
Wr: Santonio Holmes - 87 with upside
Qb: Ben Roethlisberger - 88
Rb: Willie Parker - 82
Fb: Carey Davis - 65
Te: Heath Hiller - 88
Ot: Max Starks - 83
Ot: Willie Colon - 68
G: Darnell Stapleton - 69
G: Chris Kemo - 76
C: Justin Hartwig - 82

De: Aaron Smith - 91
De: Brett Keisel - 84
Nt: Casey Hampton - 88
Olb: James Harrison - 95
Olb: LaMarr Woodley - 89
Ilb: James Farrior - 88
Ilb: Lawrence Timmons - 85 with upside
Cb: Ike Taylor - 85.5
Cb: Will Ga.y - 80 with upside
Ss: Troy Polamalu - 96
Fs: Ryan Clark - 86


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Wr: Hines Ward - 86
Wr: Santonio Holmes - 87 with upside
Qb: Ben Roethlisberger - 88
Rb: Willie Parker - 82
Fb: Carey Davis - 65
Te: Heath Hiller - 88
Ot: Max Starks - 83
Ot: Willie Colon - 68
G: Darnell Stapleton - 69
G: Chris Kemo - 76
C: Justin Hartwig - 82

De: Aaron Smith - 91
De: Brett Keisel - 84
Nt: Casey Hampton - 88
Olb: James Harrison - 95
Olb: LaMarr Woodley - 89
Ilb: James Farrior - 88
Ilb: Lawrence Timmons - 85 with upside
Cb: Ike Taylor - 85.5
Cb: Will Ga.y - 80 with upside
Ss: Troy Polamalu - 96
Fs: Ryan Clark - 86


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Donovan McNabb - 85
Brian Westbrook - 87
Dan Klecko - 60
DeSean Jackson - 82
Kevin Curtis - 78
Jason Avant - 72
Brent Celek - 75
(Offensive Line is very confusing right now)
Todd Herremans - 80
Jamaal Jackson - 78
Shawn Andrews - 91
Stacy Andrews - 77
Nick Cole - 75
Max Jean-Gilles - 74

Trent Cole - 88
Darren Howard - 76
Juqua Parker - 80
Chris Clemons - 75
Victor Abiamiri - 72
Brodrick Bunkley - 82
Mike Patterson - 79
Akeem Jordan - 74
Stewart Bradley - 80
Chris Gocong - 75
Asante Samuel - 83
Sheldon Brown - 86
Joselio Hanson - 75
Quintin Mikell - 84
Quintin Demps - 68

David Akers - 75
Sav Rocca - 70
Seems good, but Westbrook is at least a 90 imo.
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I think I'm for bumping up Penny a little bit. I think 80 is fair. Anyone else?
Awesome, so the fact that he had the second best QB rating in the league convinced you to bump him up a whopping one point? lol
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P. Manning, Colts- 98
T. Brady, Patriots- 98
D. Brees, Saints- 93
T. Romo, Cowboys- 88 (Lower?)
P. Rivers, Chargers- 87
J. Cutler, Broncos- 87
D. McNabb, Eagles- 87
K. Warner, Free Agent- 86
C. Palmer, Bengals- 86
B. Roethlisberger, Steelers- 85 (Higher?)
E. Manning, Giants- 84
A. Rodgers, Packers- 84
M. Hasselbeck, Seahawks- 83
M. Ryan, Falcons- 83 (U)
M. Schaub, Texans- 80
M. Bulger, Rams- 80
K. Collins, Titans- 79
D. Garrard, Jaguars- 79
C. Pennington, Dolphins- 79 (Lower?)
J. Flacco, Ravens- 78
M. Cassel, Chiefs- 77
J. Delhomme, Panthers- 76
J. Campbell, Redskins- 76
T. Edwards, Bills- 74
J. Russell, Raiders- 74
S. Hill, 49ers- 73
S. Rosenfels, Vikings- 72
I know you don't like Shaun Hill but that is ridiculous. His accomplishments, numbers, and win percentage are better than at least half the people you have ahead of him

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Awesome, so the fact that he had the second best QB rating in the league convinced you to bump him up a whopping one point? lol
Stats do have some value in this rating process, but these are not fantasy ratings. Besides QB rating is the stupidest stat ever invented.

Your point is taken. Yes, Pennington had a FANTASTIC season last year but he is not a great player by any stretch. I've seen him for years as a New Yorker and sometimes his physical deficiencies do hurt him. We all know his strengths, but even with his incredible intangibles he still hasn't been able to overcome lack of arm strength to the point where he has taken his team deep into the playoffs (relevant because he was cut from one team and has been in the league for a while). 79-80 is JMO. We could argue about Penny for days, but let's just agree to disagree. Anyone else like to weigh in on Pennington. Again, I think 79 is fair but i would not be opposed to 80.

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I know you don't like Shaun Hill but that is ridiculous. His accomplishments, numbers, and win percentage are better than at least half the people you have ahead of him
I'll admit to being a J. Russell fan, so maybe you are right there. Anyone, thoughts?

Anyone else? Is Shaun Hill better than Trent Edwards, Jason Campbell, or Jake Delhomme? (Don't think you have an argument about anyone else above him.)
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Stats do have some value in this rating process, but these are not fantasy ratings. Besides QB rating is the stupidest stat ever invented.

Your point is taken. Yes, Pennington had a FANTASTIC season last year but he is not a great player by any stretch. I've seen him for years as a New Yorker and sometimes his physical deficiencies do hurt him. We all know his strengths, but even with his incredible intangibles he still hasn't been able to overcome lack of arm strength to the point where he has taken his team deep into the playoffs (relevant because he was cut from one team and has been in the league for a while). 79-80 is JMO. We could argue about Penny for days, but let's just agree to disagree. Anyone else like to weigh in on Pennington. Again, I think 79 is fair but i would not be opposed to 80.

More comments to come as I get a chance to review some of the posts...

Thanks to everyone who contributed!
Okie dokie, point taken, but I watched every Fins game last year and have seen him as a Jet countless times, and he's definitely one of the top 15 starters. You bring up the Playoffs, but there are players rated higher than him that haven't even been in the playoffs, specifically Jay Cutler, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Schaub. I don't think his lack of arm strength has been the determining factor in his playoff success, I don't really understand your point on that one. We'll wait for others to weigh in though.
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Jake Delhomme - 76
DeAngelo Williams - 88
Jonathan Stewart - 82 (U)
Brad Hoover - 74
Steve Smith - 93
Mushin Muhammad - 79
Jeff King - 68
Jordan Gross - 90
Travelle Wharton - 86
Ryan Kalil - 80
Keydrick Vincent - 76
Jeff Otah - 85 (U)

Julius Peppers - 91
Tyler Brayton - 75
Maake Kemoeatu - 78
Damione Lewis - 78
Na’il Diggs - 72
Jon Beason - 87 (U)
Thomas Davis - 83
Chris Gamble - 86
Ken Lucas - 75
Richard Marshall - 77 (U)
Chris Harris - 81
Charles Godfrey - 73

John Kasey - 88
Jason Baker - 77
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This is going to be sad

QB:Trent Edwards: 77
RB:Marshawn Lynch: 91 (Should be higher if he only had a below average or better OL
RB: Fred Jackson: 86
FB: Corey McIntyre: 68
WR: Lee Evans: 83
WR: Josh Reed: 75
TE: Derek Schouman: 68
LT: Jason Peters: 84 (He can get back into that 90+ overall)
LG: Geoff Hangartner: 77?
C: Melvin Fowler: 34
RG: Brad Butler: 77
RT: Langston Walker: 78
LE: Chris Kelsay: 75
RE: Aaron Schobel: 84
DT: Marcus Stroud: 86
LOLB: Keith Ellison: 74
MLB: Paul Posluszny: 81
ROLB: Kawika Mitchell: 80
CB: Terrence McGee: 86
CB: Leodis McKelvin: 81 (When you factor in returns)
FS: Ko Simpson: 75
SS: Donte Whitner: 83

K: Ryan Lindell: 80
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QB. Clemens- 72(for now)
HB. T.Jones- 89 L.Washington- 83
FB. T.Richardson- 87
WR. J.Cotchery- 84
WR. C.Stucky- 77
TE. D.Keller- 82
T. Dbrick- 88
G. A.Fanaca- 94
C. N.Mangold- 93
G. B.Moore- 80
T. D.Woody-81
DE. S.Ellis- 85
NT. K.Jenkins- 92
DE. K.Coleman- 72
LB. C.Pace- 84
LB. B.Scott- 88
LB. D.Harris- 87
LB. B.Thomas- 76
CB. D.Revis- 95
CB. L.Sheppard- 81
S. K.Rhodes- 89
S. A.Elam- 68
K. J.Feely- 80
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I'll admit to being a J. Russell fan, so maybe you are right there. Anyone, thoughts?

Anyone else? Is Shaun Hill better than Trent Edwards, Jason Campbell, or Jake Delhomme? (Don't think you have an argument about anyone else above him.)
Hill is definitely better than the 4 you mentioned. I'd put him ahead of Flacco (at least right now), Bulger, Garrard, Collins, and possibly Hasselbeck as well.
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Ben Roethlisberger - 89
Willie Parker - 83
Mewelde Moore - 78
Hines Ward - 86
Santonio Holmes - 87
Heath Hiller - 89
Max Starks - 78
Willie Colon - 70
Darnell Stapleton - 72
Chris Kemo - 72
Justin Hartwig - 80

Aaron Smith - 92
Brett Keisel - 83
Casey Hampton - 89
James Harrison - 96
LaMarr Woodley - 87
James Farrior - 88
Lawrence Timmons - 85(U)
Ike Taylor - 85
Bryant McFadden - 82
Deshea Townsend - 80
Will Ga.y - 79
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QB. Clemens- 72(for now)
HB. T.Jones- 89 L.Washington- 83
FB. T.Richardson- 87
WR. J.Cotchery- 84
WR. C.Stucky- 77
TE. D.Keller- 82
T. Dbrick- 88
G. A.Fanaca- 94
C. N.Mangold- 93
G. B.Moore- 80
T. D.Woody-81
DE. S.Ellis- 85
NT. K.Jenkins- 92
DE. K.Coleman- 72
LB. C.Pace- 84
LB. B.Scott- 88
LB. D.Harris- 87
LB. B.Thomas- 76
CB. D.Revis- 95
CB. L.Sheppard- 81
S. K.Rhodes- 89
S. A.Elam- 68
K. J.Feely- 80
P. N/A
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IDK how Russell is a 74 when it was his first season starting on a bad team. He has alot more upside then most all the QB's there
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QB- Kyle Orton - 78
RB- Matt Forte - 87
FB- Jason McKie - 72
WR- Devin Hester - 76
WR- Rashied Davis - 72
TE- Greg Olson/Desmond Clark - 85 a piece
LT- Chris Williams - ???
LG- Josh Beekman - 78
C- Olin Kruetz - 88
RG- Roberto Garza- 76
RT- ?? John St.Clair? - 75

DE- Alex Brown- 84
DT- Tommie Harris- 87
DT- Marcus Harrison/Isreal Idonije/Dusty Dvorchek - 76
DE- Adawale Ogunleye - 78
OLB- Lance Briggs - 93
MLB- Brian Urlacher - 91
OLB- Nick Roach/Hunter H - 75
CB- Charles Tillman - 84
CB- Nathan Vasher - 80
CB- Trumaine McBride/Corey Graham - 79
S- Kevin Payne - 77
S- Craig Steltz - 70

K- Robbie Gould - 91
P- Brad Maynard - 85
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Tampa Bay

QB: Luke McCown - 74
RB: Earnest Graham - 83
FB: B.J. Askew - 84
WR: Antonio Bryant - 85
WR: Michael Clayton - 76
TE: Kellen Winslow - 85
LT: Donald Penn - 81
LG: Arron Sears - 82
C: Jeff Faine - 84
RG: Davin Joseph - 88
RT: Jeremy Trueblood - 79

DE: Gaines Adams - 81
DE: Greg White - 76
DT: Chris Hovan 77
DT: ? Some Scrub
OLB: Geno Hayes - 74
OLB: Quincy Black - 74
MLB: Barrett Ruud - 100000
S: Sabby Piscitelli - 77
S: Tanard Jackson - 83
CB: Ronde Barber - 91
CB: Aqib Talib - 83

K: Matt Bryant - 88
P: Josh Bidwell - 83
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For the Falcons

QB: M.Ryan-86 (U)
RB: M. Turner-90
RB: J. Norwood-78
FB: O. Mughelli-80
WR: R. White-87
TE: J. Peelle-74
LT: S. Baker-76 (U)
LG: J. Blalock-80
C: T. McClure-79
RG: H. Dahl-77
RT: T. Clabo-80
WR: M. Jenkins-77

LE: J. Anderson-71
DT: J. Babineaux-83
DT: K. Moorehead-70
RE: J. Abraham-90
SLB: C. Wire-70
MLB: C. Lofton-78 (U)
WLB: S. Nicholas-74
CB: C. Jackson-75 (U)
FS: E. Coleman-80
SS: J. Fudge-69
CB: C. Houston-79 (U)

K: J. Elam-85
P: M. Koenen-82
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QB: Luke McCown - 74
RB: Earnest Graham - 83
FB: B.J. Askew - 84
WR: Antonio Bryant - 85
WR: Michael Clayton - 76
TE: Kellen Winslow - 85
LT: Donald Penn - 81
LG: Arron Sears - 82
C: Jeff Faine - 84
RG: Davin Joseph - 88
RT: Jeremy Trueblood - 79

DE: Gaines Adams - 81
DE: Greg White - 76
DT: Chris Hovan 77
DT: ? Some Scrub
OLB: Geno Hayes - 74
OLB: Quincy Black - 74
MLB: Barrett Ruud - 100000
S: Sabby Piscitelli - 77
S: Tanard Jackson - 83
CB: Ronde Barber - 91
CB: Aqib Talib - 83

K: Matt Bryant - 88
P: Josh Bidwell - 83
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Seahawks. With newly signed FA's of course ;)

Offense:
QB: Matt Hasselbeck - 86
RB: Julius Jones - 75
FB: Leonard Weaver - 80 (u) Owen Schmitt - 74 (u) I did both since since Weaver might not be back.
WR: T.J. Houshmandzadeh - 85
WR: Deion Branch - 79 (u)
TE: John Carlson - 83
LT: Walter Jones - 89 - Age is the only reason I don't have him well in the 90's
LG: Mike Wahle - 78
C: Chris Spencer - 70
RG: Floyd Womack (I think he's our best bet at RG) - 72
RT: Sean Locklear - 80

Defense:
LE: Patrick Kerney - 86
DT: Brandon Mebane - 82
DT: Colin Cole - (I have no idea, Packer fans please tell me your ideas.)
RE: Lawrence Jackson - 72 (u)
ROLB: Julian Peterson - 86
MLB: Lofa Tatupu - 90
LOLB: Leroy Hill - 87
CB: Marcus Trufant - 87 (u)
CB: Kelly Jennings - 74 (u)
FS: Brian Russell - 64
SS: Deon Grant - 79

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Does Deion Branch really have significant upside anymore? He's a couple months from being 30...
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Well, when he's healthy he's played pretty well that's why I said upside. I probably should lower him a bit more and then put upside to him.
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