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Old 03-04-2009, 12:48 PM    (permalink
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I'm getting the impression from my Broncos that Tony Sheffler is on the block, anyone with input on what he is worth? (draft picks) For anyone who isn't familiar, he is a great receiving TE but a sub-par blocker. Also, who would be potential suitors for him? Thanks, GO BRONCS
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The Eagles should consider sending their 4th round pick for him.
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Hey all,

I'm getting the impression from my Broncos that Tony Sheffler is on the block, anyone with input on what he is worth? (draft picks) For anyone who isn't familiar, he is a great receiving TE but a sub-par blocker. Also, who would be potential suitors for him? Thanks, GO BRONCS
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Buffalo
Cleveland
Detroit (hey, why not? They need just about everything)
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Carolina (unlikely)
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I'm just trying to get a relative understanding of what he is worth on the market. People in Bronco land tend to WAY overvalue current players on the roster. He is injury prone, and really doesn't fit into McDaniels' system.
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The Bucs gave up a 2nd for Winslow. I think you are looking at a 3rd or 4th for Scheffler.
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The Bucs gave up a 2nd for Winslow. I think you are looking at a 3rd or 4th for Scheffler.
If we could get a third I would be ecstatic....One more pick to dedicate to the DL
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do the broncos have anything behind sheffler?
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If my team needed a pass catching TE, I'd trade a third for Schefler in a heartbeat.
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Not really, Daniel Graham is the starter and has already played in the Patriots' system. He is the ideal TE for that system. I would suspect they could entertain grabbing another blocking TE via FA or late in the draft....
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I'm just trying to get a relative understanding of what he is worth on the market. People in Bronco land tend to WAY overvalue current players on the roster. He is injury prone, and really doesn't fit into McDaniels' system.
You are 100% correct. BTW, your handle looks rather familiar... are you posting over at Broncomania?

As I said over there, a late 3rd - 4th would be a decent exchange for the Broncos.
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You are 100% correct. BTW, your handle looks rather familiar... are you posting over at Broncomania?

As I said over there, a late 3rd - 4th would be a decent exchange for the Broncos.
That is me, I have to come over here often to get a "sensible" approach to fee agency and other topics. Some people over there too often post too much crap before getting the facts straight. Bye the way, how do you feel about us potentially moving Sheff? I really think he is a good player, but McD's offense is predicated on WRs versus TEs.....
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Not really, Daniel Graham is the starter and has already played in the Patriots' system. He is the ideal TE for that system. I would suspect they could entertain grabbing another blocking TE via FA or late in the draft....
I forgot about Graham, he probably will have a bit of a renaissance under McDaniels
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I forgot about Graham, he probably will have a bit of a renaissance under McDaniels
Yeah I was a little disappointed given the size of his contract when we brought him in. However, I have completely changed my tune on Graham and he is actually a really good TE.....
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I wonder if the Falcons look at him. LJ Smith is visiting Detroit and I dont know anymore if he will be a Falcon. While the Falcons need a more well balanced TE, it wouldn't hurt to have a great receiving threat over the middle like Scheffler.
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I like scheff a lot, and I really don't want to see him go...but I would be happy if we got a third for him. A 4th would be alright I guess. But I think graham is gonna be great this year.
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Bye the way, how do you feel about us potentially moving Sheff? I really think he is a good player, but McD's offense is predicated on WRs versus TEs.....
IIRC, his offense is the spread version of the Erhardt-Perkins system... there's plenty of latitude to use more of the base system and run 2 TE sets if he wants to.

The bigger issue is blocking. Scheff just doesn't fit the mould. Wierdly enough (considering how pass-happy the Pats have been), the roots of McDaniels' system are very much smash-mouth, so the TE is expected to be a good blocker. Combine that with a reputation for being fragile and I can see why he'd be on the trade block.

Any team running a West Coast offense (or some derivative) should take a very close look at him, as he can do a lot of damage in the right situation.
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IIRC, his offense is the spread version of the Erhardt-Perkins system... there's plenty of latitude to use more of the base system and run 2 TE sets if he wants to.

The bigger issue is blocking. Scheff just doesn't fit the mould. Wierdly enough (considering how pass-happy the Pats have been), the roots of McDaniels' system are very much smash-mouth, so the TE is expected to be a good blocker. Combine that with a reputation for being fragile and I can see why he'd be on the trade block.

Any team running a West Coast offense (or some derivative) should take a very close look at him, as he can do a lot of damage in the right situation.
Sheff is particularly suited for getting up the seam QUICKLY. He is stellar in that role (when healthy), which opens up the crossing routes for receivers that can get some YAC. He would be well suited for a team running the west coast....
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I wonder if the Falcons look at him. LJ Smith is visiting Detroit and I dont know anymore if he will be a Falcon. While the Falcons need a more well balanced TE, it wouldn't hurt to have a great receiving threat over the middle like Scheffler.

This is what I was thinking. I could definitely see this move now that it seems we aren't going to get LJ.
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This is what I was thinking. I could definitely see this move now that it seems we aren't going to get LJ.
I don't see it though. His blocking skills are inadequate and blocking is very important for our scheme.
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How bad is Scheffler's blocking? Obviously it's difficult to pinpoint the blocking of a TE for another team.

If his blocking is non-existent, then I doubt the Falcons go for it. On the other hand, there aren't really any well-rounded TEs in the draft, except in the 1st, so if it's for a 3rd or 4th then I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Meh, Scheffler can't even stay healthy.

Plus this is a good TE class.
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Meh, Scheffler can't even stay healthy.

Plus this is a good TE class.
That's why I don't mind parting with him for a third or fourth. Can prolly get a better TE for the system with the pick.
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I could see the giants sending a fourth for him, he'd be a great compliment to the bossman and we could teach him to block. Plus we have a **** ton of picks and have pretty good depth at most positions.
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