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Old 05-25-2006, 12:00 AM    (permalink
 
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Chicago has stated they would be willing to part ways with Ben Gordon if the right trade came along.

You guys desperately need a PF and our Drew Gooden is a restricted FA this offseason meaning we can outbid any offers.

Chicago has been open in the public about how they would like to aquire Gooden.

Would you guys be willing to do a sign and trade for him?

some other things might be added to the trade to make it work, but these 2 are the key factors if a deal could be done.

You allready have good young shooters, but need front court help, Drew is perfect for young type offense.

C - Tyson Chandler
PF - Drew Gooden
SF - Loul Deng
SG - Andres Nocioni
PG - Kirk Heinrich
plus your #2 and #16 overall picks.

C - Zaudrudus Ilgauskas
PF - Anderson Varejo
SF - Lebron James
SG - Larry Hughes
PG - Ben Gordon



seems like a fair trade...

How is Gordon as a PG, and not a SG tweener? Can he play the position?
Any chance he can improve on his D or is that hopeless?

Any good info on Gordon from people that have seen him play would be helpful.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:01 AM    (permalink
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I highly doubt that happening. Chicago can out bid nearl anyone and the Cavs have to worry about saving their cap for guys like LeBron.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:02 AM    (permalink
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There is no way Gordon would be traded for just drew gooden
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:03 AM    (permalink
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Bulls fans, would this trade worK?

Chandler, Gordon and the number two pick for KG?
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:03 AM    (permalink
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Ben Gordon is much better than Drew Gooden. Way unfair.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:03 AM    (permalink
 
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I highly doubt that happening. Chicago can out bid nearl anyone and the Cavs have to worry about saving their cap for guys like LeBron.
Because Gooden is a restricted FA, the Cavs can match any offer though. And since rules allow it, the Cavs can go over the cap to sign him. He has allready said in the media he wants to remain with the Cavs, so unless we sign and trade him, its a good chance he will be our PF next year.

Outbidding does no good in this case, we can offer more money because of the one clause the NBA made.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:05 AM    (permalink
 
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Chandler, Gordon and the number two pick for KG?
In a recent article, the Wolves GM stated the only trade he would make for KG, would have to involve the name Kobe or Lebron. They said they will not trade KG.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:06 AM    (permalink
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Chandler, Gordon and the number two pick for KG?
In a recent article, the Wolves GM stated the only trade he would make for KG, would have to involve the name Kobe or Lebron. They said they will not trade KG.
That's what I thought i heard, wasn't sure though.


Also, the bulls need a superstar. Gooden is not a superstar
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:06 AM    (permalink
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I highly doubt that happening. Chicago can out bid nearl anyone and the Cavs have to worry about saving their cap for guys like LeBron.
Because Gooden is a restricted FA, the Cavs can match any offer though. And since rules allow it, the Cavs can go over the cap to sign him. He has allready said in the media he wants to remain with the Cavs, so unless we sign and trade him, its a good chance he will be our PF next year.

Outbidding does no good in this case, we can offer more money because of the one clause the NBA made.
Yeah but you guys have to save cap room, and we can make an offer that you'd rather not match.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:10 AM    (permalink
 
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I'd be happy if the Cavs traded all three of their picks this year and Gooden for Ben Gordon, but I doubt Chicago does that.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:11 AM    (permalink
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I'd be happy if the Cavs traded all three of their picks this year and Gooden for Ben Gordon, but I doubt Chicago does that.

we don't need 5 picks in this weak draft, that'd be stupid
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:12 AM    (permalink
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I'd be happy if the Cavs traded all three of their picks this year and Gooden for Ben Gordon, but I doubt Chicago does that.

They don't need 5 picks in this weak draft, that'd be stupid
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:13 AM    (permalink
 
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Yeah but you guys have to save cap room, and we can make an offer that you'd rather not match.
When you have Lebron, you plan the cap to resign him years in advance! The cap to resign him has been in the savings account untouched for 3 years now! Thats no problem.

According to our GM Danny Ferry, resigning Gooden isnt a problem eather, but they have to look at weather its best for the team or not.

I dont know if the trade is possible, but the Bulls said they were willing to trade Gordon, and then mentioned they like Gooden, so I put 2 and 2 together.

Ben Gordon
Mike Sweetney (or other?)

FOR

Drew Gooden
Sasha Pavlovic or Luke Jackson
2nd round pick

Bulls would then draft Alldridge and have the #16 pick and two round picks.

C - Tyson Chandler
PF - Drew Gooden - Alldridge
SF - Luel Deng - Sasha Pavlovic
SG - Andres Nocioni
PG - Kirk Heinrich - Chris Duhon
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Yeah but you guys have to save cap room, and we can make an offer that you'd rather not match.
When you have Lebron, you plan the cap to resign him years in advance! The cap to resign him has been in the savings account untouched for 3 years now! Thats no problem.

According to our GM Danny Ferry, resigning Gooden isnt a problem eather, but they have to look at weather its best for the team or not.

I dont know if the trade is possible, but the Bulls said they were willing to trade Gordon, and then mentioned they like Gooden, so I put 2 and 2 together.

Ben Gordon
Mike Sweetney (or other?)

FOR

Drew Gooden
Sasha Pavlovic or Luke Jackson
2nd round pick

Bulls would then draft Alldridge and have the #16 pick and two round picks.

C - Tyson Chandler
PF - Drew Gooden - Alldridge
SF - Luel Deng - Sasha Pavlovic
SG - Andres Nocioni
PG - Kirk Heinrich - Chris Duhon

what's the point of trading for Gooden if we could get Aldridge?
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Yeah but you guys have to save cap room, and we can make an offer that you'd rather not match.
When you have Lebron, you plan the cap to resign him years in advance! The cap to resign him has been in the savings account untouched for 3 years now! Thats no problem.

According to our GM Danny Ferry, resigning Gooden isnt a problem eather, but they have to look at weather its best for the team or not.

I dont know if the trade is possible, but the Bulls said they were willing to trade Gordon, and then mentioned they like Gooden, so I put 2 and 2 together.

Ben Gordon
Mike Sweetney (or other?)

FOR

Drew Gooden
Sasha Pavlovic or Luke Jackson
2nd round pick

Bulls would then draft Alldridge and have the #16 pick and two round picks.

C - Tyson Chandler
PF - Drew Gooden - Alldridge
SF - Luel Deng - Sasha Pavlovic
SG - Andres Nocioni
PG - Kirk Heinrich - Chris Duhon
Still don't really like that trade. The Bulls could get some better offers from teams for Gordon
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:16 AM    (permalink
 
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I'd be happy if the Cavs traded all three of their picks this year and Gooden for Ben Gordon, but I doubt Chicago does that.

They don't need 5 picks in this weak draft, that'd be stupid
I wasn't even paying attention to how many picks the Bulls had. Sorry. Damn.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:29 AM    (permalink
 
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You really thin having just Tyson Chandler (NO OFFESNE WHATSOEVER) and a rookie such as Aldridge with no good backups is going to get you far into the playoffs?

You need a proven scorer down low and you WONT get it from Chandler, Sweetney, and Rookie, or Harrington.

Fact is the Bulls dont need A shooting gaurd such as Gordon as much as they do a low post scorer.

If Gordon was god they wouldnt be talking about trades for him.

The Cavs could be the last team in the world that could work out a fair trade, but Im curious.....

The Bulls HAVE to get a low post scorer THIS YEAR, because they want to win now! They have allready tasted the playoffs and want to make it farther this coming year.

Without a low post scoring threat they cant do that.

Drew Gooden is the #1 rated big man in FA this year and hes only 24 years old.

Can Gordon play PG or is that not the best option?
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I wish I could trade a tootpick for Lebron James to join the Magic...It might have to be somewhat of a special toothpick though. Oh oh one owned by me!
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What would Cleveland do with Larry Hughes & Ben Gordon? Neither of them can play PG, neither of them can play SF. If Cleveland was going to trade for anyone on the Bulls they should try Heinrich.
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I think Gordon and that #2 pick will be used for Mr. Garnett.
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I think Gordon and that #2 pick will be used for Mr. Garnett.
We'll the media and MN front office thinks different. I posted about 4 hours ago an article shutting down this rumor.
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I would rather want Anderson Varejao in return for Gordon plus about two future 1st round picks. Even though the Bulls are loaded at the SF positions they are rumored to be coveting Morrison.
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no, that would be a bad trade for the bulls
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Helz no.

As long as we dont get KG, I will be happy
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They can draft Ty Thomas, who can be better than Gooden.
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