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http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1326

The Chiefs are expected to name Clancy Pendergast their new defensive coordinator by as soon as Friday.

There were differing reports as to whether Pendergast or Gary Gibbs would get the job, and Romeo Crennel's name was even out there. Pendergast was last defensive boss in Arizona, where new Chiefs coach Todd Haley ran the offense.

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Can't really say I'm happy with the move I like him on the staff but was really wanting Crennel.
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better him the Gibbs TBH
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I was really wanting Crennel to run the defense too. I've heard a lot of bad things about Pendergast from Cardinals fans, but hey, our defense can't get much worse!
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this may spell theend to the 3-4 switch?

AZ tried to run it like 15 plays this year. I dunno though. What to do with Vrable then?
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I thought they had like a hybrid version. I think Vrable means that we're gonna be out of a 3-4 primarily.

Maybe it was me, but I think the Cards' D played Pitt pretty tough in the super bowl...and I don't think they have too many big-time players on the D(Rolle,Dansby and Dockett)
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Chan Gailey: offensive coordinator and quarterbacks

Maurice Carthon: assistant head coach and runnings backs

Dedric Ward: wide receivers

Bob Bicknell: tight ends

Bill Muir: offensive line

Joe D'Alessandris: assistant offensive line

Clancy Pendergast: defensive coordinator and defensive backs

Tim Krumrie: defensive line

Gary Gibbs: linebackers

Pat Perles: assistant linebackers

Ronnie Bradford: assistant secondary

Steve Hoffman: special teams

Joel Collier: duties to be assigned
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Now that Thigpen's not going to be the starter, I really hate the idea of Gailey as the OC/QB's coach. The spread was fun, but he hasn't been a decent NFL coach since Jimmy Johnson was his boss with the Cowboys...

And Pendergast as DC doesn't mean much in terms of whether they go 3-4 or 4-3 (hybrd)... It actually will be interesting to see what they do. If they just went with Clancy's hybrid system from Arizona (similar to Marvin Lewis's system in Baltimore), Vrabel can play MLB or OLB, and their current DL is much better suited for it... They'd just need what you'd call a traditional 3-4 OLB at the other LB (Cody Brown or Victor Butler seem like great options later) spot or draft Curry (in which case, Vrabel would play that OLB role)...

It's the ideal system for them to utilize to do more of a "slow switch" to a 3-4... They'd need minor maintenance along the DL, and little or nothing else... They'd be able to focus on the offense with the rest of the draft, which would be great.
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Pendergast means you will be in the 4-3, probably the 2nd big reason he was fired with Whis wanting to go the the 3-4
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Pendergast means you will be in the 4-3, probably the 2nd big reason he was fired with Whis wanting to go the the 3-4
Not really. They'll run the same defense in Arizona that they had last year. Clancy is just really hard to work with. He's a real dick from all accounts. His defense is basically a 3-4 with the other OLB just being a down linenman...
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last year it was a 4-3 with 3-4 plays(made it look like a 5-2) just because Whis made him put them in, he is strictly a 4-3 DC, has no experience in the 3-4
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I'd almost prefer to stay in the 4-3 at this point except use Dorsey correctly. Draft Curry or trade back and get Brown/Orakpo to man that DE position, etc.
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Truly does any one think that Dorsey is best used as a 3-4 DE?
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No, I've never thought that. Some teams thought he could be before he was drafted if I remember right, but he was viewed as that Warren Sapp type penetrator in the 4-3. Problem is, we used him incorrectly. We kept Krum so I'm a little wary that it changes, but I hope it does.
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Guy runs' a 4-3 under scheme. Here's the link:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...wwhi013009.htm

That's one thing I'll never understand, why did we use dorsey like that garbageman lineman?
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But the other outside guy — the Cardinals call this player their “Predator” — is almost always rushing the passer, although the Cards will occasionally drop him into coverage to mix things up. Other differences: The nose tackle shades to the A-gap (in between the center and guard) on the tight end side, and the end on that side moves between the tackle and tight end.

That predator could be Vrable and have DJ as the SLB?
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That wouldn't be a bad idea. DJ started out as our Sam LB. However, if this is what we're running. Where does Curry play?
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CURRY NOT THE PICK :o

maybe? I dunno. Curry isin't much of a pass rush. Unless Pendy likes what he saw in DJ at MLB?
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I think DJ would be our "Predator" with his athleticism and speed, No question he'd be the guy. Curry would be our Dansby maybe Vrabel as our LB that takes on the guard(He's the heaviest of the three right now)
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If the Chiefs intend on going full-on what Pendergast had in Arizona, Curry won't be the pick (unless they trade DJ). Could be looking at Orakpo. If you have a serious need for a full-on SLB, it would seem silly to draft Curry (who fits everywhere, but is ideally an SLB) and stick him at Mike and move a natural Will in DJ to Sam...

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If they're looking for Orakpo over Curry then I think you're more likely to see a tradeback scenario than picking at 3.
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I don't think so. Who are they going to trade back with and still be guaranteed to get Orakpo? As a 4-3 DE, Orakpo is a Top 5 pick. He's good value at #3.
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Ughh Orakpo has such a cool name, I thin I could live with him in KC, but I think Curry is a godly LB even though LBs 'shouldnt be picked in the top 10. Orakpo is not Mario Williams and he is not a Gaines Adams(as a prospect)so I dunno. :(

still wouldnt be shocked if KC goes Oline even though Haley has said Albert is the last person KC has to worry about
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I wonder if Crabtree is also in the discussion IF Curry is gone.Bowe, Crabtree, Engram, Bradley and Franklin would give us one of the best WR corps we've had in awhile
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If the Chiefs intend on going full-on what Pendergast had in Arizona, Curry won't be the pick (unless they trade DJ). Could be looking at Orakpo. If you have a serious need for a full-on SLB, it would seem silly to draft Curry (who fits everywhere, but is ideally an SLB) and stick him at Mike and move a natural Will in DJ to Sam...

Orakpo makes the most sense in that situation.
Wait, what? I think draqfting Curry would make sense because he would play the SLB and Johnson would play the WLB. As for Vrable i wouldn't expect him to be an every down player anyways unless he moves to MLB, which he could very well do in a 4-3. I don't follow the Chiefs much at all but I'm pretty sure that that is how it would work out...
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