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Old 03-16-2009, 06:36 PM    (permalink
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Hi, chiefs fans. I am doing a draft and I am doing it the easy way by asking every team's fans (thats you guys).

1. Detroit - QB Matt Stafford
2. St. Louis Rams - OT Jason Smith
3. Kansas City Chiefs - ?

So, give me some feed on who you guys want and ill be back later and the most popular player I will give you guys. thanks.
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I think it will be Curry if thats how is shakes out. BPA and is a fit in pendergast's D.
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Aaron Curry most likely. The only other person I can see there is Crabtree and I'm not a huge fan of that. Curry would be an amazing pick there.
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Curry seems like a lock at this point
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Curry or trade down if they can.
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Curry.

Although Orakpo's becoming a little more enticing.
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Yea, Curry will probably be our guy.
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I wouldn't count B.J. Raji out. Pioli seems to place high value on the D-line based on all the starters on NE being 1st round picks.

It is very difficult to find great DT's and even harder to find great 3-4 DT's. The consensus seems to be Dorsey cannot play as a 3-4 DT. I don't plan on KC picking this high again next year, and who knows if a guy like Raji will ever fall to us again.
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I wouldn't count B.J. Raji out. Pioli seems to place high value on the D-line based on all the starters on NE being 1st round picks.

It is very difficult to find great DT's and even harder to find great 3-4 DT's. The consensus seems to be Dorsey cannot play as a 3-4 DT. I don't plan on KC picking this high again next year, and who knows if a guy like Raji will ever fall to us again.
It doesn't seem likely we'll be going to a 3-4 now because Pendergast has never run one. He runs the 4-3 under which is different. I think Dorsey will have his place there like he did this year (but used correctly I hope) and Tank will be the other DT there. He's strong and he has gotten better every year.

If it's true, and we're not going to a 3-4, I think it'd be pretty safe to rule out Raji now. We have bigger needs at DE and LB to draft ANOTHER DT.

You are right though, Pioli loves his dline but DT is the strong point of our dline. We need a pass rushing specialist DE like Orakpo or Brown imo.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Pendergast and the Cards played both a 4-3 and 3-4 so he is familiar with both. I just love a dominant d-line. And with Vrabel, DJ, and Tamba we may have our pass rush needs covered (in a 3-4 at least) for this year.

With Orakpo, he would be perfect in a 4-3/3-4 defense since he can be a DE in a 4-3 and a rush OLB in a 3-4.

It would be an easier decision if we knew how our defense is going to run, but I would take either of these guys over Curry at the moment.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Pendergast and the Cards played both a 4-3 and 3-4 so he is familiar with both. I just love a dominant d-line. And with Vrabel, DJ, and Tamba we may have our pass rush needs covered (in a 3-4 at least) for this year.

With Orakpo, he would be perfect in a 4-3/3-4 defense since he can be a DE in a 4-3 and a rush OLB in a 3-4.

It would be an easier decision if we knew how our defense is going to run, but I would take either of these guys over Curry at the moment.
I think earlier someone said that the only reason Pendergast ran some plays out of the 3-4 is because Wishenhunt kinda forced him too. Also(It might be this thread, but I'm not sure). They ran a base 4-3 under defense. Orakpo could fit in as our Rush guy, but to me he seems an awful like Vernon Gholston....Mr. Workout. Raji I think is out of the question just because we have pretty much invested so much in Dorsey....

I'm also leaning away from Curry. However, the guy isn't a big blitzing Linebacker. However, he has shown that he's a proven linebacker that can take over a game. I mean, he's only gotten four picks in his college career, but they have all lead to points! Had that happen to us last year, we would've tripled our win total(2+4). Also, I personally don't like one-dimensional guys being picked that high in the draft...and I think that's what Orakpo is.

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http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...wwhi013009.htm

read that pendy runs a 4-3.
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Ok. I wasn't to sure what the Cards ran last year since I only really saw them play in the playoffs. I'd take Orakpo over Curry though, because a great LB is usless w/o a pass rush. Sure, he will get his tackles, but the defense,as a unit, will not be good.
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Ok. I wasn't to sure what the Cards ran last year since I only really saw them play in the playoffs. I'd take Orakpo over Curry though, because a great LB is usless w/o a pass rush. Sure, he will get his tackles, but the defense,as a unit, will not be good.
As bad as the Chiefs are, you don't take a lesser player just because there is more of a need at that position. If the Chiefs are picking at 3 and Curry is there, he is likely the very best player available and the Chiefs need to pick him. If they move down, then Orakpo might be more likely.
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Ok. I wasn't to sure what the Cards ran last year since I only really saw them play in the playoffs. I'd take Orakpo over Curry though, because a great LB is usless w/o a pass rush. Sure, he will get his tackles, but the defense,as a unit, will not be good.
Well, our LBers were pretty bad at tackling, so for a defense that is still being built, I'll take tackling :P
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As bad as the Chiefs are, you don't take a lesser player just because there is more of a need at that position. If the Chiefs are picking at 3 and Curry is there, he is likely the very best player available and the Chiefs need to pick him. If they move down, then Orakpo might be more likely.
Curry's my #1, but they're both Top 5 picks in this draft. So it's not about taking the lesser player because Orakpo is damn good. It's more about the Chiefs picking between LB and DE. If they're running Pendergast's system from Arizona, Orakpo's the better player for the Chiefs.
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Curry's my #1, but they're both Top 5 picks in this draft. So it's not about taking the lesser player because Orakpo is damn good. It's more about the Chiefs picking between LB and DE. If they're running Pendergast's system from Arizona, Orakpo's the better player for the Chiefs.
Not as high on Orakpo as you are. If Curry is the number one overall player on your board and he is available at 3, you have to take him. The Chiefs are not one defensive end away from going to the Super Bowl. They need the best players available at numerous spots.
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Exactly how I feel. Don't reachfor a need when you have the number one overall player at your pick available. I still don't think Orakpoop as a top 10 player. Not a good class at the top for 4-3 DEs.
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