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Old 03-21-2009, 05:16 PM    (permalink) 
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My choice for the Bears would have to be Briggs.
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:34 PM    (permalink) 
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Are you being sarcastic? Matt Ryan is a winner. He's clutch. He has all the physical attributes needed to be successful at the position plus the intangibles to be consistent. He was one of the best rookie QBs in the history of the league playing for a team that was expected to win maybe a couple games.

Cutler has a strong arm and can make all the throws, but I don't think for one second that he could do the things Ryan did as a rookie. This shouldn't even be an argument imo.
Lol? I don't really care who was better as a rookie.
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:26 PM    (permalink) 
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You know what "untouchable" means right?


The Colts wouldn't take two 1st rounders for Peyton or any other deal, Dallas wouldn't take two 1st for Ware, do you think the Bears would take two 1st for Forte who they found in the middle of the draft?


If the answer is yes, he's not untouchable.
yes, i know what untouchable means. there is no need to get surly (yeah, i said surly). i guess i didn't quite look at it the same way as you did. but i would still argue that without briggs or urlacher the defense is still good. not great but good. without forte, that offense isn't going anywhere. that's just how i see it. (i could be a little biased though, he did lead my fantasy team to the crown this year)

btw, forte was a second round pick. i don't really consider that the middle of the draft.
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Lol? I don't really care who was better as a rookie.

Player A: 61.1%, 7.9 YPA, 1.45:1 TD:INT ratio, 87.7 QB Rating
Player B: 62.3%, 7.3 YPA, 1.38:1 TD:INT ratio, 86 QB Rating

I know they are just statistics, a poor excuse for one's actual performance, but it is definitely some food for thought.

Player A: Matt Ryan
Player B: Jay Cutler
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Matt Ryan > Jay Cutler

trading for cutler would be stupid as hell. Why would the falcons trade the QB who had the best year as a rookie? Can't wait to see what he got next season.
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