The Official Kansas City Chiefs General Discussion Thread - Page 104

vidae · 05-16-2012, 03:08 PM

Ya, and I'd expect those to get done fairly quickly, probably in the next day or two.

SoCalBam · 05-16-2012, 08:18 PM

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Worth a camp look and worth looking at as a guy who could come in mid-season when Moeaki inevitably gets injured again. But I think they roll with Moeaki, Boss, and Maneri for their TEs.

Why not go 1 year with Clark or even Shockey. No long term cap issues and definitely do not think any short term cap issue... load it up!!!

onejayhawk · 05-17-2012, 07:02 AM

I think they are actively looking for an H-back. It may be someone on the roster, like Bannon, a draftee, like Hemingway, or one of the others (Hillis?).

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vidae · 05-17-2012, 10:14 AM

Donald Stephenson signed. Only Poe left unsigned.

T-RICH49 · 05-17-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Donald Stephenson signed. Only Poe left unsigned.

with the Bills signing Gilmore gives both Poe's camp & the Chiefs a ceiling for what a contract will be

onejayhawk · 05-17-2012, 07:44 PM

Check out Looney's OTA wrap up show.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...5-15e41c372087

Some good things. An interview with Devon Wylie, who seems to have his head on straight. Some time on Allen and Stephenson, who were roomed together, and may eventually play together at LG and LT. Also my favorite UDFA, Dexter Heyman, LB Louisville. Looney says he looks like a bigger Demorrio Williams.

The highlight was some clips from the 50 year celebration. 70 year old Bobby Bell snatches a coin from Dontai Poe's hand. Shades of Kung Fu.

Finally there was an interesting comment from Steve Wyche. When he talked about injuries, he kept going back to Cassel. He said that when MC went down, the Chiefs lost the "flavor" of their offense. He also liked the free agency, because they signed depth at important positions.

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Splat · 05-17-2012, 10:19 PM

I get the feeling Devon Wylie is going to be the guy that everyone talks about in camp and than the season starts and nothing...

I haven't had a downer post in awhile, I thought I would just throw that out there.

onejayhawk · 05-18-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat

I get the feeling Devon Wylie is going to be the guy that everyone talks about in camp and than the season starts and nothing...

I haven't had a downer post in awhile, I thought I would just throw that out there.

I have high hopes for Wylie. He is a very good return man, so slot receiver is a natural for him. Comparing him the to the best slot receiver of all time is unfair. But I think he might develop into someone as good as Breaston.

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vidae · 05-18-2012, 12:40 PM

I don't expect much out of Wylie this year but in a year or two I could see him becoming a big player in our offense.

Hopefully he is durable. And hopefully they find a role for McCluster.

nepg · 05-18-2012, 07:06 PM

It's more about whether Daboll creates a role for him in the offense or not this year. They have 5 really good receiving options and 3 good running options. Formations that involve Wylie are probably going to be rare for the simple fact that it would be going away from the strength of the offense to have anything out there that doesn't involve Bowe, Baldwin, Moeaki, and Boss/Breaston.

If someone gets injured or Bowe just decides not to show up, then I'd be getting pretty excited about the possibilities Wylie can bring to the offense. He's super dangerous in the role he'll play as a slot receiver. Wylie with the ball in space is a big play waiting to happen.

Splat · 05-21-2012, 04:28 PM

Jonathan Baldwin is running with the first team as "The Bowe Show" is a "No Show".

vidae · 05-21-2012, 09:12 PM

Haha, I didn't expect Bowe to be at OTAs. I do think they're working on a deal though.

onejayhawk · 05-23-2012, 11:25 AM

The Chiefs signed a Bowe look alike. If he turns out to be a play alike, that got hurt (ACL), he could be worth something. The injury was in 2010.

Aaron Weaver - 6'2", 220.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...f-a561b73e4665

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Splat · 05-23-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by onejayhawk

The Chiefs signed a Bowe look alike. If he turns out to be a play alike, that got hurt (ACL), he could be worth something. The injury was in 2010.

Aaron Weaver - 6'2", 220.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...f-a561b73e4665

I read this at first as "Chiefs signed Bowe" only to realize they signed some guy that will never make the team.

T-RICH49 · 05-24-2012, 12:05 AM

Weaver's just a camp body IMO.with the NFL expanding rosters to 90 probably signed some guys for depth purposes

nepg · 05-24-2012, 12:22 AM

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Weaver's just a camp body IMO.with the NFL expanding rosters to 90 probably signed some guys for depth purposes

Guys like that are the entire point of the expanded rosters. You throw guys out there and see if anything sticks. Worst-case, the rest of your team is better because the players that make your roster had to step up their game to keep guys like Weaver off the roster. And the Chiefs really missed that aspect last year.

He'll be competing for a spot on the PS.

Splat · 05-24-2012, 08:10 AM

I mean it isn't impossible, but he is going to have an up hill battle with Bowe,Baldwin,Breaston and Wylie taking up four WR spots.

T-RICH49 · 05-25-2012, 10:32 PM

who remembers Bobby Sippio?wll he's now in jail for attempted murder, kidnapping, armed robbery with a firearm and aggrevated battery

nepg · 05-26-2012, 11:37 AM

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who remembers Bobby Sippio?wll he's now in jail for attempted murder, kidnapping, armed robbery with a firearm and aggrevated battery

With a name like that, I pretty much expected those outcomes. Not surprised.

nepg · 05-28-2012, 01:53 AM

Bunch if Chiefs at Buzzard Beach tonight. Tony Mo bought car bombs for everyone.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 05-28-2012, 09:45 AM

speaking of Mo, of the 3 big ACL injuries last year, he seems to be on the longest track back to health. Berry and Charles, although not participating 100% in drills, are in "uniform" and able to at least partially practice. Mo isn't even dressed to practice. concidering that his injury, even if only a few weeks, happened 1st, this is somewhat concerning knowing his past injury history. he maybe a slow healer, but his ability to be ready for training camp has to be in question. these OTAs are non-contact and require only running/cutting and knowledge of the playbook. being unable to participate in these meager tasks in late May has to be a red flag for full-contact in July, right?

LonghornsLegend · 05-28-2012, 10:50 AM

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who remembers Bobby Sippio?wll he's now in jail for attempted murder, kidnapping, armed robbery with a firearm and aggrevated battery

Haha, I was actually coming to ask a question then saw this and got side tracked. I used to love watching Sip play, I always thought he could have carved out a role playing in the slot but he wasn't very explosive. Crazy to hear the trouble some of these guys get into when football is gone.

But on the WR subject, what are you guys expecting from Baldwin this year? I was always pro Baldwin coming out and it seemed like everyone hated the guy, but I saw some flashes from him as a rookie that shows me he can turn into something. I didn't see all his games, so I can't attest to how he looked every snap, but I was wondering if you guys are expecting him to take a huge leap this year as the WR opposite Bowe or just slightly improve on last years numbers and be a role player.

I am still confident that if he doesn't turn into a stud it's his own fault. He can play, but I can't say I'm confident that he'll work his butt off to get there.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 05-28-2012, 11:13 AM

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Haha, I was actually coming to ask a question then saw this and got side tracked. I used to love watching Sip play, I always thought he could have carved out a role playing in the slot but he wasn't very explosive. Crazy to hear the trouble some of these guys get into when football is gone.

But on the WR subject, what are you guys expecting from Baldwin this year? I was always pro Baldwin coming out and it seemed like everyone hated the guy, but I saw some flashes from him as a rookie that shows me he can turn into something. I didn't see all his games, so I can't attest to how he looked every snap, but I was wondering if you guys are expecting him to take a huge leap this year as the WR opposite Bowe or just slightly improve on last years numbers and be a role player.

I am still confident that if he doesn't turn into a stud it's his own fault. He can play, but I can't say I'm confident that he'll work his butt off to get there.

i think Baldwin has to take a big step this year. last year was a handicap for all rookies with no offseason. his thumb injury really hampered him early as well. he lost a lot of much needed practice time with Cassel.

This year, everyone is learning Daboll's offense. so, he isn't handicapped any more than anyone else. he has participated in all the offseason workouts with a good attitude. he will get much more in tune with Cassel (or vice versa) and maybe most importantly, Charles & Hillis and a threat of a legit running game should make all the WRs better this year.

i don't know that i want to put a yardage and catch total as an estimate of my expectations, but i feel that he will get many more targets and score a lot more. i'm hoping for 8-10 TDs this year. especially if Moeki is completely healthy.

onejayhawk · 05-28-2012, 03:30 PM

Baldwin has the big advantage of being a jump ball artist. That is a major weapon in the red zone.

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vidae · 05-28-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

But on the WR subject, what are you guys expecting from Baldwin this year? I was always pro Baldwin coming out and it seemed like everyone hated the guy, but I saw some flashes from him as a rookie that shows me he can turn into something. I didn't see all his games, so I can't attest to how he looked every snap, but I was wondering if you guys are expecting him to take a huge leap this year as the WR opposite Bowe or just slightly improve on last years numbers and be a role player.

I expect him to have a big year. Without an offseason and without Thomas Jones he should hit the ground running. He has a ton of talent and he will get a chance to work with Cassel and the other receivers all offseason.

I think him and Bowe work the outsides this year with Breaston in the slot. That is a dangerous group.