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Old 03-19-2009, 07:34 PM    (permalink) 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sport...Id=3&listId=23

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Ben Roethlisberger
4.Drew Brees
5.Kurt Warner
6.Philip Rivers
7.Carson Palmer
8.Donovan McNabb
9.Jay Cutler
10.Matt Ryan
11.Chad Pennington
12.Matt Hasselbeck
13.Tony Romo
14.Aaron Rodgers
15.Matt Schaub
16.Eli Manning
17.Joe Flacco
18.Matt Cassel
19.David Garrard
20.Brady Quinn
21.Matthew Stafford
22.Mark Sanchez
23.JaMarcus Russell
24.Marc Bulger
25.Shaun Hill
26.Kerry Collins
27.Jason Campbell
28.Kyle Orton
29.Trent Edwards
30.Jake Delhomme
31.Jeff Garcia
32.Tarvaris Jackson
33.Derek Anderson

Its so much quicker/easier to rankem with the ESPN page.
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I'd say eli's too low, and point to Matt "I like to take a few games off each year due to injury, but thank god I get to throw th ball to Andre" Schaub being ranked ahead of him. But i'd probably come off as a homer.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:42 PM    (permalink) 
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Ugh, why is this being discussed again...
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:45 PM    (permalink) 
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My Top 5 QB For The 2009 Season

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Philip Rivers
4.Drew Brees
5.Donovan McNabb
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Hasselback, Shaub, and Pennington over Eli? Lmao... this is not even Giants homerism but really? Pennington an argument maybe, but Shaub and Hasselback are you ******* me? Hasselback was injured and has not done much since the SEA super bowl trip, and Shaub can't even stay healthy I don't think Ryan has done enough to be at 10 either...
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My Top 5 QB For The 2009 Season

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Philip Rivers
4.Drew Brees
5.Donovan McNabb
did something change or does Warner not still have the best WRs in the NFL?
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Is this physical talent or overall talent? If it's the latter than neither Manning nor Brady are very high. If it's the former than they have to be the consensus top two.
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Orton may not be the greatest QB there every was but he has a damn near 2/3 winning percentage and has no business being behind Quinn, the rookies or Shaun ******* Hill....
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Shaub looks a little high.
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Is this list based off talent or best QB. I know it says talent but the list reflects best QB's. Which is it?

edit:P-L, I didn't see you already asked the same question.
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Overall QB talent and production. Ranking guys that have already played or rookies is pretty hard.

Schaub was 7th for passer rating. He's done pretty well when he was on the field, I didn't consider injuries for any of it. That also helped Hasselbeck, he has been consistently very good for the past seasons

Eli probably is probably too low, how the offense struggled at the end of the season really stuck out in my mind. Besides the SuperBowl run he's very inconsistent, last year he was really good for the most of the season, really bad at the end. Should have boosted him some for winning the SB.

Orton really struggled after he came back from injury. He just starred down receivers way too much.
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Is this physical talent or overall talent? If it's the latter than neither Manning nor Brady are very high. If it's the former than they have to be the consensus top two.
other way around, bub
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1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Drew Brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Ben Roethlisberger
6.Philip Rivers
7.Kurt Warner
8.Tony Romo
9.Donovan McNabb
10.Matt Ryan
11.Aaron Rodgers
12.Eli Manning
13.Jay Cutler
14.Matt Hasselbeck
15.Matt Cassel
16.Jake Delhomme
17.Chad Pennington
18.David Garrard
19.Matt Schaub
20.Marc Bulger
21.Jason Campbell
22.Joe Flacco
23.Kyle Orton
24.Trent Edwards
25.Brady Quinn
26.Matthew Stafford
27.JaMarcus Russell
28.Mark Sanchez
29.Kerry Collins
30.MJeff Garcia
31.Derek Anderson
32.Tarvaris Jackson
33. Shaun Hill
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Drew Brees >Peyton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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hahahahaha, shows you what media hype can do for your career.
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# Tom Brady
# 2.Peyton Manning
# 3.Drew Brees
# 4.Ben Roethlisberger
# 5.Philip Rivers
# 6.Kurt Warner
# 7.Tony Romo
# 8.Carson Palmer
# 9.Jay Cutler
# 10.Eli Manning
# 11.Aaron Rodgers
# 12.JaMarcus Russell
# 13.Donovan McNabb
# 14.Matt Hasselbeck
# 15.Matt Ryan
# 16.Trent Edwards
# 17.Jeff Garcia
# 18.Jason Campbell
# 19.Brady Quinn
# 20.Joe Flacco
# 21.Chad Pennington
# 22.David Garrard
# 23.Kerry Collins
# 24.Jake Delhomme
# 25.Derek Anderson
# 26.Shaun Hill
# 27.Matt Cassel
# 28.Matt Schaub
# 29.Marc Bulger
# 30.Matthew Stafford
# 31.Kyle Orton
# 32.Tarvaris Jackson
# 33.Mark Sanchez
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1.Peyton Manning
2.Tom Brady
3.Drew Brees
4.Donovan McNabb
5.Kurt Warner
6.Ben Roethlisberger
7.Carson Palmer
8.Philip Rivers
9.Jay Cutler
10.Matt Ryan
11.Eli Manning
12.Chad Pennington
13.Tony Romo
14.Aaron Rodgers
15.Matt Hasselbeck
16.Matt Cassel
17.Matt Schaub
18.Joe Flacco
19.David Garrard
20.Kerry Collins
21.Kyle Orton
22.Brady Quinn
23.Jason Campbell
24.Marc Bulger
25.Shaun Hill
26.Jeff Garcia
27.Matthew Stafford
28.Trent Edwards
29.Jake Delhomme
30.Mark Sanchez
31.JaMarcus Russell
32.Derek Anderson
33.Tarvaris Jackson
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I agree with the avg posit. of rodgers, although i wouldl liketo see him in front of romo
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I would just like to point out that there are a minimum of 136 people who should have their internet privileges revoked for life.

I am one of the bigger supporters of Jamarcus Russell, but he has 136 votes for #1 overall? Ok, so maybe he and his mom saw this poll and had to participate--those two would be understandable. But how does one explain the next 134 picks? No. That's just ridiculous.

This is coming from a guy who ranked Russell (#17) higher than probably 95% of the posters here would rank him. But he does not deserve any 1st place votes.
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# Tom Brady
# 2.Peyton Manning
# 3.Drew Brees
# 4.Ben Roethlisberger
# 5.Philip Rivers
# 6.Kurt Warner
# 7.Tony Romo
# 8.Carson Palmer
# 9.Jay Cutler
# 10.Eli Manning
# 11.Aaron Rodgers
# 12.JaMarcus Russell
# 13.Donovan McNabb
# 14.Matt Hasselbeck
# 15.Matt Ryan
# 16.Trent Edwards
# 17.Jeff Garcia
# 18.Jason Campbell
# 19.Brady Quinn
# 20.Joe Flacco
# 21.Chad Pennington
# 22.David Garrard
# 23.Kerry Collins
# 24.Jake Delhomme
# 25.Derek Anderson
# 26.Shaun Hill
# 27.Matt Cassel
# 28.Matt Schaub
# 29.Marc Bulger
# 30.Matthew Stafford
# 31.Kyle Orton
# 32.Tarvaris Jackson
# 33.Mark Sanchez
this list sucks.
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# Tom Brady
# 2.Peyton Manning
# 3.Drew Brees
# 4.Ben Roethlisberger
# 5.Philip Rivers
# 6.Kurt Warner
# 7.Tony Romo
# 8.Carson Palmer
# 9.Jay Cutler
# 10.Eli Manning
# 11.Aaron Rodgers
# 12.JaMarcus Russell
# 13.Donovan McNabb
# 14.Matt Hasselbeck
# 15.Matt Ryan
# 16.Trent Edwards
# 17.Jeff Garcia
# 18.Jason Campbell
# 19.Brady Quinn
# 20.Joe Flacco
# 21.Chad Pennington
# 22.David Garrard
# 23.Kerry Collins
# 24.Jake Delhomme
# 25.Derek Anderson
# 26.Shaun Hill
# 27.Matt Cassel
# 28.Matt Schaub
# 29.Marc Bulger
# 30.Matthew Stafford
# 31.Kyle Orton
# 32.Tarvaris Jackson
# 33.Mark Sanchez
lmao with Romo being that high.
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my list:
1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Drew Brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Philip Rivers
6.Ben Roethlisberger
7.Kurt Warner
8.Jay Cutler
9.Aaron Rodgers
10.Eli Manning
11.Matt Ryan
12.Donovan McNabb
13.Tony Romo
14.Joe Flacco
15.Matt Schaub
16.Matt Hasselbeck
17.Jeff Garcia
18.Brady Quinn
19.Matthew Stafford
20.JaMarcus Russell
21.Shaun Hill
22.Matt Cassel
23.Chad Pennington
24.Kerry Collins
25.Kyle Orton
26.David Garrard
27.Jason Campbell
28.Mark Sanchez
29.Jake Delhomme
30.Trent Edwards
31.Derek Anderson
32.Marc Bulger
33.Tarvaris Jackson

Note: I am really high on Carson and always thought he performed in spite of instead of because of the rest of the bengals offense.
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