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Old 03-20-2009, 02:34 AM    (permalink
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My problem is that it's really hard to think about all this **** as a player. Someone who totally did not attend to do something dirty could be called easily. It's hard to control exactly where you're going to hit someone when you're going 1000mph. What if the other player is shorter than you? That makes it even harder.
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Does anyone actually read the articles around here?

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The proposal, according to Anderson and competition committee co-chair Rich McKay, is to try to eliminate or penalize any helmet-to-helmet contact that occurs on a blindside block.
They later say in the article that Hines Ward's block might not have been a penalty even if this rule was implemented.

A player suffered a season ending injury as a result of being blocked high as he was hit from his blindside. Obviously, it's something to take into issue as the rules comittee is reviewing this season.

The biggest impact a rule like this would likely have is on punt and kickoff returns when the returner reverses the field.
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Really? Blindside blocks aren't needed in the game? People watch football for the big hits. Hell, I am speaking as a defender. Get hit like that once and you will get your head on a swivel from there on out.

I have absolutely no problem with those blocks. The defenseless receiver is a different story, because he has to be looking for the ball in the air. A defender is supposed to keep his head on a swivel at all times.
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What are you talking about? Not needed? Yea that makes sense. So on a crucial block to spring an RB, lets have players wait till the others are looking... please.

This is football, if its not helmet to helmet, it's legal and should stay that way.


Maybe you read it wrong "blindside block to the head of a defender"

So like I said there's no need for that. No reason to go after someone's head.

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It doesn't bother me much but I can say I enjoy a good hit by a WR. Hines Ward you bastard why did you have to break someones jaw.
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I guess no one is worried about the other rules being passed like to many men on one side, for onside kicks. Or using less wedge guys.

They are just trying to deal away with helmet to helmet block, shoulder to helmet blind side block is A-okay.

Again this is another one of those dumbass gray rules, like forcing a WR out, if he didn't get pushed would he be able to get his feet in bounds? Then they finally make it clear that the WR has to be carried out, in order for the rule to apply.
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Tell the little ****** to suck it up. The NFL is phyisical. Hines Ward is a beast.
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Give me a break guys. This doesn't eliminate backside blocks, and even under the new rules Ward wouldn't have been fined. You guys are acting like they are eliminating these things all together, instead of just trying to avoid the to the head crap that is completely unneccessary. A big, clean, backside block would still be legal, don't overreact....
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Isn't it ironic that this is like the Carson Palmer rule, in that it was based off of his play yet there would have not been a penalty on that play under the new rule?

anyways

I think if it's enforced fairly, a rule limiting helmet-to-helmet is good. Of course, watch the refs make BS calls because of it. That's the problem.
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Give me a break guys. This doesn't eliminate backside blocks, and even under the new rules Ward wouldn't have been fined. You guys are acting like they are eliminating these things all together, instead of just trying to avoid the to the head crap that is completely unneccessary. A big, clean, backside block would still be legal, don't overreact....
isn't that clipping?

Or are your referring taking a shot at the guys ribs while turned sideways and knocking him out, cause i'm for that.
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Helmet to helmet contact is already a penalty and a fine. How is this rule proposal any different?
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Helmet to helmet contact is already a penalty and a fine. How is this rule proposal any different?
usually no one cares about it on blocking plays, only hits. This is a blind side block not tackle.
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I don't get this. Yea safety is important but think about it, without those kinda blocks defensive TDs and Punt returns etc wouldn't happen. So your Devin Hesters, Reggie Bushs etc wouldn't have the same sort of chances to produce highlights which would generate less interest in fans which in turn would generate less revenue. There has to be a line drawn between when there is a good chance of someone being hurt and detracting from the game. Just because a fairly high profile rookie gets hurt should not be enough for a rule change.

By the way the block at 26 secs in this return was beautiful

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usually no one cares about it on blocking plays, only hits. This is a blind side block not tackle.
I understand that, but I didn't think the rule specified helmet to helmet tackle vs. helmet to helmet hit.

Blocking or tackling - helmet to helmet is a penalty. There is no need for a new rule. Simply make a point to say the current rule will be more strictly enforced on blocks.
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I don't get this. Yea safety is important but think about it, without those kinda blocks defensive TDs and Punt returns etc wouldn't happen. So your Devin Hesters, Reggie Bushs etc wouldn't have the same sort of chances to produce highlights which would generate less interest in fans which in turn would generate less revenue. There has to be a line drawn between when there is a good chance of someone being hurt and detracting from the game. Just because a fairly high profile rookie gets hurt should not be enough for a rule change.

By the way the block at 26 secs in this return was beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8aRh2WUz18


Look there would be MORE returns for TD, at least KR. Since they are thinking of adding a rule for less wedge buster guys.
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The new "HinesWardJr" Rule would be what then?
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I don't get this. Yea safety is important but think about it, without those kinda blocks defensive TDs and Punt returns etc wouldn't happen. So your Devin Hesters, Reggie Bushs etc wouldn't have the same sort of chances to produce highlights which would generate less interest in fans which in turn would generate less revenue. There has to be a line drawn between when there is a good chance of someone being hurt and detracting from the game. Just because a fairly high profile rookie gets hurt should not be enough for a rule change.

By the way the block at 26 secs in this return was beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8aRh2WUz18
It was beautiful, and from my understanding, wouldn't be a penalty with this new rule. Correct me if i'm wrong, but people aren't really reading what the proposed rule is, as it doesn't remove those blocks all together......which people seem to be assuming it does....
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Leading with the helmet or shoulder is not the issue here. Leading with the helmet has been banned for a while, on either side of the ball. It is where the block is targeted. I don't think offensive or defensive players should have to avoid hitting someone on the helmet with their shoulder.
Well, considering that unless the height difference is great, someone really has to try to knock someone in the head with their shoulder.
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There's always fans who think they're tough when they disagree with rule changes that protect players from unnecessary injury. Everytime a rule like this is brought up they start in with "Grrr it's a contract sport! Injuries happen! I'm so tough sitting in my seat typing my disagreement to this rule! Who cares that I'm not the one out there taking the hits! I'm so tough!". The fact is when these rule changes get are put in to place it usually doesn't hurt the game. If it does, they can just change it back. A couple of years ago these tough fans were whining about the horse collar rule. Now that it's in place the only thing that's changed is players aren't getting their legs broken when some jackass defender decides to drag a player down by pulling back on the back of his jersey while falling onto the back of his legs. That rule didn't hurt the game at all that I can tell.
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Maybe you read it wrong "blindside block to the head of a defender"

So like I said there's no need for that. No reason to go after someone's head.
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Helmet to helmet contact is already a penalty and a fine. How is this rule proposal any different?

I think its now any hit leading to the head. Like even a shoulder to the head? Iono that was the impression I got too. Which confused me because helmet to helmet is already a penalty
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Well, considering that unless the height difference is great, someone really has to try to knock someone in the head with their shoulder.
Except defenders are often times low in order to make a cut when they get blindsided.
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There's always fans who think they're tough when they disagree with rule changes that protect players from unnecessary injury. Everytime a rule like this is brought up they start in with "Grrr it's a contract sport! Injuries happen! I'm so tough sitting in my seat typing my disagreement to this rule! Who cares that I'm not the one out there taking the hits! I'm so tough!". The fact is when these rule changes get are put in to place it usually doesn't hurt the game. If it does, they can just change it back. A couple of years ago these tough fans were whining about the horse collar rule. Now that it's in place the only thing that's changed is players aren't getting their legs broken when some jackass defender decides to drag a player down by pulling back on the back of his jersey while falling onto the back of his legs. That rule didn't hurt the game at all that I can tell.
Agreed. Everyone is tough until the laws of physics work against them and you end up with a career/season ending or brain injury. But hey, 'it's a contact sport'. Read the rule that they are suggesting, all it does is mitigate the possibility of needless injury. Good call IMO. I don't want one of my favorite players (or any player for that matter) taking an unnecessary (and illegal) hit if he doesn't have to. Clean shot injuries will still happen, but at least you can enforce that the ones they do take will occasionally be deemed to have crossed the line.
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There's always fans who think they're tough when they disagree with rule changes that protect players from unnecessary injury. Everytime a rule like this is brought up they start in with "Grrr it's a contract sport! Injuries happen! I'm so tough sitting in my seat typing my disagreement to this rule! Who cares that I'm not the one out there taking the hits! I'm so tough!". The fact is when these rule changes get are put in to place it usually doesn't hurt the game. If it does, they can just change it back. A couple of years ago these tough fans were whining about the horse collar rule. Now that it's in place the only thing that's changed is players aren't getting their legs broken when some jackass defender decides to drag a player down by pulling back on the back of his jersey while falling onto the back of his legs. That rule didn't hurt the game at all that I can tell.
If this rule was just outlawing helmet to helmet hits I would be all for it. I would rather they just get stricter on that aspect. But to outlaw shoulder pad to helmet hits is what I don't agree with.

The fact of the matter is, these people choose to play football, not to mention they are well compensated for it. I have had a couple concussions, and my back is ****** from playing football. But I knew what I was getting into when I did it. So do NFL players.

This is coming from someone who has taken those types of hits at a relatively high level. Does it suck when you get your bell rung? Of course it does, but it is also part of the game. What are the most memorable hits of all time? The ones when the helmet goes flying off, right? This has nothing to do with trying to act tough, at least for me. It has to do with them outlawing some of my fondest memories of watching football as a kid.
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Agreed. Everyone is tough until the laws of physics work against them and you end up with a career/season ending or brain injury. But hey, 'it's a contact sport'. Read the rule that they are suggesting, all it does is mitigate the possibility of needless injury. Good call IMO. I don't want one of my favorite players (or any player for that matter) taking an unnecessary (and illegal) hit if he doesn't have to. Clean shot injuries will still happen, but at least you can enforce that the ones they do take will occasionally be deemed to have crossed the line.
Why does a shoulder pad to the helmet cross the line? If a defender is crouched down trying to change direction, avoiding the head is a very hard thing to do.
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