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Old 03-23-2009, 07:27 AM    (permalink
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Default C Samson Satele Traded to the Raiders

Very good trade for the Raiders. He struggled last year in the power scheme, but he'll be a Pro Bowler now that he's back in a ZBS.

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Center Samson Satele’s days with the Miami Dolphins are over.

The team has traded Satele, a second-round pick in 2007 who started every game the past two seasons for Miami, to the Oakland Raiders, according to two NFL sources.

No terms of the deal were available. The team recently traded a seventh round pick to Jacksonville for defensive tackle Tony McDaniel, leaving the Dolphins with eight picks during the April 25-26 draft.
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So the Raiders and Dolphins swapped Centers.

I think the Raiders got the better of the deal. Satele should be great in the Raiders system.
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Wes Welker ultimately went to NE for a 6th and 7th rounder....

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Hmm i wonder what rounder the Raiders gave up.
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Whatever it was, they got a starting-caliber player on the cheap (likely) to replace a guy they lost in FA. Plus, they'll be able to get a compensatory pick next year for losing Grove.
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Very nice pick up for Oakland, that's one step closer to fixing that horrible Offensive Line...
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Satale just wasn't strong enough for Sparano's system. He's not a bad player, but for a coach that wanted a power running game, he couldn't run up the middle cause that's not Sammy's strength.
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A very good move by the Raiders indeed. At least until we hear what the compensation is ;)
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Satale just wasn't strong enough for Sparano's system. He's not a bad player, but for a coach that wanted a power running game, he couldn't run up the middle cause that's not Sammy's strength.
Yes, he should be a perfect fit in Cable's ZBS though. I love this pickup as it gives us more flexibility early in the draft. This should allow us to possibly target an OT or NT in the second round instead now, assuming we go receiver at #7.
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I wonder what they gave up for him? I think its probably between a 3-5th round pick
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Satele sucked last year but he had promise as a rookie. He also had to go against Vince Wilfork, Marcus Stroud, and Kris Jenkins six times last year. I would trade a late-round pick for him. Jake Grove's contract makes no sense to me, on the other hand. He gets hurt every year and pulled in top dollar for a center. Makes the Rams' signing of Brown look like a total steal.
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Satele is a solid young player who fits Cable's scheme. I think since the Raiders lost Grove to the Dolphins they were probably going to target a center in the 2nd but with Satele on board we can go defensive line or draft one of the safeties, that's if we draft Crabtree or Maclin in the first of course.
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Great pickup that Oline is starting to look pretty solid, gives them a lot of room for the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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From what I've read, Oakland sent a 6th rounder and swapped picks in an undisclosed round with Miami.
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Assuming the Raiders didn't fall back in the 1st-3rd rounds (Miami actually has a very low pick), I call this a VERY good trade. Satele was not worth a whole lot to the Dolphins because he would have only been a mediocre backup. However, the Raiders get a guy who has shown very good promise when in a zone blocking scheme. This is a good deal.
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So the Raiders and Dolphins swapped Centers.

I think the Raiders got the better of the deal. Satele should be great in the Raiders system.
And Oakland saves a ton of money, they would have had to beat 5yrs/$29M the retain Grove's services, Satele makes $1.1M over the next 2 years and he is 4 years younger.

Where the heck is Al Davis and who is this prudent, wise man they replaced him with?
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It disappoints me when I see the Raiders make a good move. Fortunately I haven't been disappointed for years.
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LT Henderson/Barnes
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Good young oline right there. All we need is a #1 WR and Id say sit and wait for this offence to explode.
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I haven't seen the Raider make a bad move this offseason (the worst I thought was losing Grove to the Dolphins). In fact, I've seen a bunch of really smart moves so far. I like this.
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Good young oline right there. All we need is a #1 WR and Id say sit and wait for this offence to explode.
Henderson has been questioned by many around the league that dont think he can stick at LT. Gallery was a tremendous bust that isnt worth what hes making even if he is a solid LG. Satele is a guy that just got traded by one of the best OL mindsin the business for a low pick. Even if a scheme that better fits his skills, hes no lock to revert his rookie year form where he wasnt much more then "pretty good" anyways. Carlisle is just a guy. Barnes is on a one year deal with a histroy of off the field problems and zero pass protection skills.

Lets be honest, the oakland OL is far from good. Young, talented and full of potential? yes. But way to many questions marks that need to be anwsered before it i considered good.
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I thought I would never see the day. The Raiders adressing their needs wow.
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The Raiders offensive line wasn't as bad as some people think. Harris and Green both offensive tackles were the big problem so replacing them with Henderson and Barnes will be an upgrade and now adding Satele who is perfect for the zone-blocking scheme to replace Grove was a smart move, he is pretty much a younger Grove but he can actually stay healthy.

LT - Henderson or Barnes
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Tom Cable has done nice a job with the O-line, before he took over it was train wreck.
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I think this is a great trade for the Raiders and helps both teams. Oakland now has a decent body at C so its not a glaring void. This guy can at least provide depth at C and G. If the Dolphins wanted a power blocker than shipping the ZBS guy was a good move.

Seeing how the Raiders starting C was John Wade and Satele was a former 2nd round pick this seem's like a smart idea. A 6th rounder would likely bring less to the table. Hopefully the pick switch isnt in the 1st 3 rounds.
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