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Old 04-08-2009, 04:29 PM    (permalink
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Roy Williams and Larry Fitzgerald had pretty much identical triangle numbers at the combine (6'3, 4.5, 215). Obviously CJ was more of a combine freak but in terms of getting separation and being physical after-the-catch, I find it hard to not put Roy in their company when he's on his game:

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Even when he is on his game his game couldn't touch their game with a ten foot pole.
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the thing is Roy E is on his game far less than Larry and Andre and CJ.

So in other words he sucks.
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Even when he is on his game his game couldn't touch their game with a ten foot pole.
In Williams defense, He did have Jon Kitna throwing him the ball.
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Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson and Andre Johnson are in there own league. No one right now is as good as those 3.
i think he showed in the playoffs, Fitz is in a league of HIS own.
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Cowboys fans are the greatest, aren't they. :p
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Cowboys fans are the greatest, aren't they. :p
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Roy Williams has tons of talent.. He just has lapses in concentration, unreliable hands.. He has All Pro ability, but beating out the previously named NFC WR's is unlikely.

I think Roy Williams and Braylon Edwards are the same person.
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He won't be able to beat out Miles KILOMETERS Austin.
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All Pro is pushing it, but Pro Bowl is a reasonable expectation. He is a big guy with long hands that likes to catch balls on his fingertips. I think him and Romo will have some really nice sideline and end zone hook ups next season. When Roy is motivated he has all world talent. I think this year he'll be motivated to make a name for himself. The problem is after next year. Is he going to get into slumps again like in Detroit. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not banking on anything with him until he shows some consistency.

Oh and there's no way in hell that Cowboy fans are the biggest homers. We just have to defend our team from dumb asses who like to downgrade the good players on the team. Romo sucks so bad that in his first 39 starts he has 81 TDs and a 63.6% accuracy. If you don't think he's a a top 5 guy that's fine, but thinking he sucks is ********. Besides there are about 4 or 5 AFC teams that have the biggest elitist homers. Look at how many Cowboys are in the Hall of Fame versus teams with way less titles and tell me that Cowboy fans are the biggest homers.
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No. Guys that would make the All-Pro team before REW does include...

Andre Johnson
Steve Smith
Larry Fitzgerald
Calvin Johnson
Anquan Boldin
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Dwayne Bowe
Brandon Marshall
Roddy White
Greg Jennings
Lee Evans
Terrell Owens
Vincent Jackson
Donald Driver
Chad Johnson
DeSean Jackson
T.J Houshmanzadeh
Braylon Edwards
Santonio Holmes

Am I forgetting anyone?
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No. Guys that would make the All-Pro team before REW does include...

Andre Johnson
Steve Smith
Larry Fitzgerald
Calvin Johnson
Anquan Boldin
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Dwayne Bowe
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Greg Jennings
Lee Evans
Terrell Owens
Vincent Jackson
Donald Driver
Chad Johnson
DeSean Jackson
T.J Houshmanzadeh
Braylon Edwards
Santonio Holmes

Am I forgetting anyone?
Leave out Lee Evans, Donald Driver, DeSean Jackson, and Wes Welker and you sir are correct.
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I would include Reggie Wayne, especially now that Harrison isn't stealing targets and Peyton is healthy again. In a similar situation, he had a great 2007 season (104-1,510-10).
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It is hard to say someone will be an All-Pro after averaging 2 Rec a game last year. That was due to Garrett not using him, but if he was unable to use his last year its unrealistic to expect Garrett to be able to turn him into an All-Pro. Would Fitz/A Johnson have had his limited production if he was in Williams spot was year?
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I would include Reggie Wayne, especially now that Harrison isn't stealing targets and Peyton is healthy again. In a similar situation, he had a great 2007 season (104-1,510-10).
Wow, I completely forgot about Reggie. He's obviously on there, my bad.

Malaka, DeSean is going to get 2,300 yards and 28 TD this year. Deal with it.
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Derrick Mason (can't believe he's never been voted to the pro-bowl, what a joke)
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he will forever be almost great but never will actually get there
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Derrick Mason? He's got 10k yards and most of that was after 4 years in the league. If anything he's underrated.
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Wow, I completely forgot about Reggie. He's obviously on there, my bad.

Malaka, DeSean is going to get 2,300 yards and 28 TD this year. Deal with it.
And Domenik Hixon is going to do that, solve world hunger, and calculate the exact value of Pi.
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He may never make the All-Pro team, but a pro bowl season is within reach...One thing I do know he can do, and that's get into the endzone...The only 3 WR's that I can think of that had more TD's then him(23) in his first 3 seasons were Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald(24), and Greg Jennings(24), nearly every other elite WR didn't come close to that margin.


I'll have to see if he can be a complete WR in every aspect, but I don't think he'll have any trouble reaching 10 TD's with the looks he'll get.
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This question should really be whether or not he will be a pro-bowler, rather than All-Pro. I think we all pretty much agree he has little to no shot at All-Pro. Even though Pro Bowls isn't a very good measure of how good a season a player has had, I still think it's a more realistic goal for Roy.
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I was under the impression that we were discussing non-scrub WRs.
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Leave out Lee Evans, Donald Driver, DeSean Jackson, and Wes Welker and you sir are correct.
Why leave out Welker?
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Personally I don't even know why the issue is coming up over him...he is a great talent. Give him a chance before anyone writes him off. He had half a year to learn everything. Give him this camp and getting to know everyone and the subtraction of T.O. and you will see a much improved WR from last season.
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Derrick Mason? He's got 10k yards and most of that was after 4 years in the league. If anything he's underrated.
It's easier to believe when you remember he was a Titan for the most part :P He's the Keith Bulluck of offense.
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