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Old 08-12-2009, 01:41 PM    (permalink
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Playing the "devil's advocate" here, what if he shows up with a week or so left until the season and is good enough to beat out Morgan? You have to know he has a copy of the playbook and is working out on his own in some capacity.
I don't think Sing would care. Morgan won the spot fair and square and it will take a while for Crabtree to pass him in Sing's eyes.
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Well, from what I've read, the coaching staff takes away all playbooks and similar paperwork from the players after mini-camps. He only has personal notes that he took during those mini-camps.

But hopefully someone has slipped him a playbook. Sounds like he doesn't have one though.
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No, he does not have a playbook. Maiocco and Barrows have said numerous times that Raye does NOT let playbooks leave the team facilities, and all Crabtree can study are the notes he took during OTAs.
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So basically when we sign him, he's starting from square one? thats juuuuuust great!
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On the other hand I like what I'm seeing with the the stick marks on the helmets of Coffee and Gore, but I'm scared of it as well.
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I didn't expect a rookie wide receiver to come in and do much in his first season anyhow. This training camp was to start getting him ready for next year with spot duty this season. What I worry about is how this affects his second year as he will be pretty much taking reps away from the guys in practice that will be counted on to win games this year and as such Crabtree may not be developed much this year at all. This could keep him from contributing much until his third year. (We won't know if he is truly bustilicious until his fourth year then)

I'd be just as happy trading him for a first rounder next year at this point since his development is going to be delayed and there is a really good chance he is just a putz anyhow. Maybe the Ravens would bite....
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I'd be just as happy trading him for a first rounder next year at this point
It's becoming increasingly difficult and ridiculously expensive to sign ONE first round pick. Do you realize the possible salary cap implications of having to sign THREE ???
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im getting ready to head out to candlestick.
got my new seats for this season.
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3 hours until kickoff. It feels like it's been an eternity, can't wait to watch them play tonight.
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Hill didnt play much but I thought he was FAR more decisive than Smith. Outside that it wasnt that outstanding but it looked like Clayton blew an ACL or something, so welcome to the roster Kory Sheets. haha.
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just got back from the game. HOLY ****! this is gonna be a great year.
i was so juiced to see hill to vernon. FINALLY.
granted it was against captain neckbeard, but the defense on the whole looked good.
spurlock has shakes.
why didnt jason hill play more?
still a little scared about the pass rush, but i hope it'll come by season.
overall, really impressed.
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It's still a dead heat between Hill & Smith for the starting QB job after the preseason win over the Broncos.

Kyle Orton showed how bad it can be for a 1st NFL outing at QB -- he threw a 9er pick party & basically stunk up the house at Candlestick Friday night. Hell yes, Denver is still a mess.

Smith threw the best pass of the night to Josh Morgan in stride for a 1st down, a 9-yarder on 3rd & 3. How about that Crimson Tide rusher Glen Coffee getting almost 5 yds/carry (14-67 yds) -- maybe the team has finally found the 2 for that 1-2 punch at RB they've been looking for. Yeah I know it was against Denver, a team that couldn't stop the run on a bet.

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci...nclick_check=1

The bad news is that the 9ers could be in fullback trouble as Zak Keasey may have fractured his forearm.

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how are they in fullback trouble? Norris was held out, and Robinson can play it if need be.
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Keasey let up two sacks anyway.. we're better off with Norris
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I came away very impressed with Coffee. Staley was doing a fine job. Our defense was letting up some dumb plays but were lucked out by Orton's crappiness. Dre Bly is looking to be the starter. As far as QB goes, I still think Shaun Hill has the job or at least should have the job.
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Watched the highlights of the game. Hill and amazingly, Davis looked good. The defense played well even though there was still no pass rush whatsoever. Coffee looked very good and should be an excellent compliment to Gore.

Kind of sad that Clayton is out for the season with a torn ACL as I was hoping to finally see him play. Oh well.
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4 sacks still has me seeing red. I told yall, O-line play is going to be a focal point for us this year.
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Not really the o-line's fault though. One sack was because Zak Keasey got run over by a DE or LB (can't remember). Two of the sacks were because the QB held onto the ball for way too long. They were coverage sacks. The other I can't remember, so it was probably the lines fault. But overall, I can't blame the line for 3 of the 4 sacks.
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Definitely holding the ball too long & coverage sacks, still much improved over last yr. The local broadcast said they were working on getting the ball out quicker with both Smith & Hill, but they really need to work on it some more.

Coffee showed good vision, speed burst & working the cutback lanes.

I think working against a Mike Nolan defense gave them some insights early in the 1st qtr, Vernon Davis was open in a window for both those long completions. It looked sharp & scripted, much better than they way the Martzball 9ers opened games last yr.

The secondary was the most improved b/c of Dre Bly & Reggie Smith showing great ball skills, but Orton served up some giftwrapped balls too.

The 9ers overall looked much better prepared & coached than Denver, where their offense didn't have it together, lots of mistakes & guys obviously not on the same page.
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4 sacks still has me seeing red. I told yall, O-line play is going to be a focal point for us this year.
Zak Keasey was blown up on both sacks of Hill.
Alex Smith rolled out and held the ball too long.
Damon Huard had 3rd and 4th stringers busting an all-out blitz.

I credit the starting offensive line with ZERO sacks allowed.
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Zak Keasey was blown up on both sacks of Hill.
Alex Smith rolled out and held the ball too long.
Damon Huard had 3rd and 4th stringers busting an all-out blitz.

I credit the starting offensive line with ZERO sacks allowed.
Agreed 100%. I am much more worried about the pass rush.
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Agreed 100%. I am much more worried about the pass rush.
I thought Lawson might provide some pass rush, but he still couldn't get into the backfield if his life depended on it.

Business as usual i guess.
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