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I thought you didn't play Madden Dan. Or as you put it "I don't play crapaden!!"
Actually, it's CRAPADDEN with two D's. LOL.

I didnt last year as 11 was worse than 10. I still play 2K3 and 2K5 but I dont have the time or patience to edit 2K5 anymore. If I did, then I would still be playing 2K5. And sadly, Madden is the only NFL game released every year due to that exclusive license bullcrap.
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Braylon says he sees himself as number 1 but then says he and Crabtree can both be number 1s??? LOL. Which is it?
He was recognizing Crabtree's talents. See, he can do no right for you can he? He acknowledges that's he's not "just" trying to be "The Man" but that he views Crabtree as a #1 quality WR, also. That's a bad thing???

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And its funny, he simply reversed 81 into 18. LOL.
No. Actually it was between 12 and 18. He went with 18 because it combines his college number at Michigan (1) with his Profession number thus far with Browns and Jets (17).
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and think back 3 years...

Michael Lewis and Mark Roman.


Thank *insert personal savior here* for improvement and depth at Safety.
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Depth Chart for the game this Friday

OFFENSE

WR: 19 Ted Ginn Jr., 81 Braylon Edwards, 10 Kyle Williams, 14 Kevin Jurovich, 5 Chris Hogan
LT: 74 Joe Staley, 75 Alex Boone, 63 Donovan Edwards
LG: 77 Mike Iupati, 67 Daniel Kilgore, 60 Nick Howell
C: 68 Adam Snyder, 66 Jonathan Goodwin, 61 Chase Beeler
RG: 62 Chilo Rachal, 69 Tony Wragge, 71 Derek Hall
RT: 76 Anthony Davis, 78 Mike Person, 65 Kenny Wiggins
TE: 85 Vernon Davis, 46 Delanie Walker, 48 Konrad Reuland, 83 Colin Cloherty, 47 Chris Blohm, 82 Nate Byham (injured)
WR: 84 Joshua Morgan, 18 Lance Long, 88 Ronald Johnson, 13 Joe Hastings, 6 Tyler Beiler
FB: 44 Moran Norris, 49 Bruce Miller, 43 Jack Corcoran
RB: 21 Frank Gore, 24 Anthony Dixon, 32 Kendall Hunter, 33 Xavier Omon, 26 Seth Smith
QB: 11 Alex Smith, 7 Colin Kaepernick, 3 Jeremiah Masoli, 1 McLeod Bethel-Thompson


DEFENSE

LDT: 91 Ray McDonald, 78 Demarcus Dobbs, 64 Ian Williams
NT: 90 Isaac Sopoaga, 95 Ricky Jean Francois, 61 Sealver Siliga
RDT: 94 Justin Smith, 63 Will Tukuafu, 71 Brian Bulcke
LOLB: 55 Ahmad Brooks, 96 Antwan Applewhite, 47 Monte Simmons
ILB: 53 NaVorro Bowman, 54 Larry Grant, 56 Scott McKillop, 58 Alex Joseph
ILB: 52 Patrick Willis, 57 Keaton Kristick, 51 Blake Costanzo
ROLB: 98 Parys Haralson, 99 Aldon Smith, 59 Thaddeus Gibson, 50 Kenny Rowe
LCB: 22 Carlos Rogers, 29 Chris Culliver, 35 Phillip Adams, 32 Cory Nelms
RCB: 36 Shawntae Spencer, 25 Tarell Brown, 26 Tramaine Brock, 33 Phillip Davis
FS: 30 Reggie Smith, 20 Madieu Williams, 40 Chris Maragos, 28 Curtis Taylor
SS: 31 Donte Whitner, 27 C.J. Spillman, 23 Taylor Mays, 45 Anthony West, 43 Colin Jones


SPECIAL TEAMS

PR: 19 Ted Ginn, 10 Kyle Williams, 88 Ronald Johnson
KOR: 19 Ted Ginn, 32 Kendall Hunter, 29 Chris Culliver
P: 4 Andy Lee
K: 2 David Akers, 9 Fabrizio Scaccia
H: 4 Andy Lee
LS: 86 Brian Jennings

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- Braylon Edwards. Caught a five-yard fade in the end-zone from Alex Smith and made it look easy. The 49ers haven’t had a wide receiver they could throw the ball up to in goal line situations, and now they do.

- Carlos Rogers. Didn’t allow any completions in one-on-one drills, and no quarterback threw his way during scrimmages.

- Chris Culliver. The second best cornerback behind Rogers in the one-on-ones. He’s big and fast and improving.

- Ahmad Brooks. Got some practice reps for the first time in a few days, and got a sack around the left edge. Brooks looks much more comfortable rushing around the edge than Aldon Smith, who often gets pushed out of the play unless he cuts back inside.


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Kind of shocked Dobbs is ahead of Ian Williams.......and that he's not in the rotation at NT.
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Bootlegs are back. About ******* time. We'll probably have the best output this year since Turner was around, the only one that seemed like he knew how to design a decent offense. No more Gore straight up the middle, straight up the middle, and then punt. Man I hated Singletary/Raye.
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Kind of shocked Dobbs is ahead of Ian Williams.......and that he's not in the rotation at NT.
That depth chart doesn't seem accurate at all. We will see.

The link has already been taken down. And if Sam Lam wrote it, he removed it from his blog entirely.
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Just watched the Stanford vs Cal game last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hkCG9IPcAg

It was 31-0 in the 3rd and Stanford was still attacking. It almost brought a tear to my eye. Gone are days when were up 3-0 and we try to coast the rest of the game.
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And ESPN's Mike Sando has good things to say as well.....

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This was the crispest, most efficient practice I've seen while visiting NFC West camps over the past week. Coach Jim Harbaugh was everywhere, including deep inside the offensive huddle. The 49ers practiced with purpose.

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Good tidbit from Maiocco's depth chart breakdown:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/09/11/M...77&feedID=5936

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Crossing my fingers he can avoid the PUP list heading into the season.
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Good tidbit from Maiocco's depth chart breakdown:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/09/11/M...77&feedID=5936



Crossing my fingers he can avoid the PUP list heading into the season.
I'm pretty sure that depth chart is the same one that Sam Lam posted for th examiner a few posts ago. Interesting that Maiocco has Dobbs ahead of Williams at DE and Williams not listed as a NT. Especially considering that he even admits that Ian Williams has seen a bunch of time at NT and just a little at DE.
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Williams has worked a lot at nose tackle, and has started to see action at other spots on the line, too. Still, this might be a spot where the 49ers look to grab an experienced backup for insurance around the time final cuts are made around the league
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I'm pretty sure that depth chart is the same one that Sam Lam posted for th examiner a few posts ago. Interesting that Maiocco has Dobbs ahead of Williams at DE and Williams not listed as a NT. Especially considering that he even admits that Ian Williams has seen a bunch of time at NT and just a little at DE.
Yeah both are using the depth chart that the team is ordered to issue for Friday's game.
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Yeah both are using the depth chart that the team is ordered to issue for Friday's game.
I guess this is the official Chart released by the team. I see that now and it makes more sense. I was originally reading way too much into it. It's strictly for the New Orleans game and doesn't project well to opening day.
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Recap of today's practice

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NaVorro Bowman. Hit backup running back Seth Smith hard in the hole, and was
effective blitzing the quarterback through the middle of the offensive line on
others.
Nice to hear Bowman is doing well. I've also heard great things about Larry Grant, so hopefully the loss of TKO doesn't hurt us too bad.

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Donte Whitner. Really stood out on defense. He had an interception and a
pass-breakup where his helmet flew off.
I think this is the 2nd or 3rd time i've read he's had a day of practice. This is only his 3rd day of practice so it seems like he's catching on. We need a playmaking presence at Safety and hopefully Whitner can provide it in Fangio's scheme.

Aldon Smith. Didn’t get to the quarterback like he has in previous practices. Defensive coordinator Vic Fangio says Smith has “shown flashes” but that he’s “struggling picking up the system.”

It won't let me quote it for some reason. Anyways, is Fangio just doing this to motivate Aldon, or is this a case of Aldon not picking up the finer points of the defense? Its also dissappointing to hear he didn't get pressure, but on the other hand he's dominated camp up until now. Looks like Boone might be a diamond in the rough though. I'd love for him to push for a starting job if he can because our OT's are still very unproven.

Link- http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2011/...all-symposium/
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Man I hated Singletary/Raye.
Excluding Norv Turner, I have hated every HC and OC/DC since Mariucci was let go.
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Excluding Norv Turner, I have hated every HC and OC/DC since Mariucci was let go.
I thought Nolan had some potential as a legacy and he definitely brought some talented coaches with him (McCarthy, Sullivan, etc.). The problem was that he inherited an untalented roster on a team with a pretty bad salary cap situation. The most defining move that could have made him that didn't was drafting Alex, the QBOTF. If Alex (though he had mediocre weapons and a bad line) would have been a difference maker while the rest of the pieces were filled in, then Nolan may have had a chance to stick. When Turner left, Nolan shouldn't have looked to promote from within, as that was a wasted season.

Sing was obviously over-matched as a HC and didn't now Xs and Os to any level for someone capable to be in his position. A one trick pony motivator, and when that ran out, he had to go. Raye was a complete joke and was a prime example of how Sing didn't understand the modern aspects of an NFL offense. He just wanted to load up and crash the ball through the line, straight ahead, out-punishing the defense. The games has evolved since the '85 Bears won it all.
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I thought Nolan had some potential as a legacy and he definitely brought some talented coaches with him (McCarthy, Sullivan, etc.). The problem was that he inherited an untalented roster on a team with a pretty bad salary cap situation. The most defining move that could have made him that didn't was drafting Alex, the QBOTF. If Alex (though he had mediocre weapons and a bad line) would have been a difference maker while the rest of the pieces were filled in, then Nolan may have had a chance to stick. When Turner left, Nolan shouldn't have looked to promote from within, as that was a wasted season.
I hated Nolan since day one. At that time, there were rumors that we were going after Holmgren from SEA because he wasnt getting along with who was there but management didnt want to pay what Holmgren wanted so he stayed in SEA and we went after Nolan instead.

The roster wasnt as bad as everyone says because Nolan switched to a 3-4 and took our two best defensive players in Peterson and Carter and turned them into a weakness. While both are pretty much done now, both resurrected their careers in SEA and WSH as a 4-3 OLB and a 4-3 DE. You have to wonder if we would have been as bad if he didnt switch the defense to a 3-4 in which he didnt have the talent for.

Drafting Smith was a mistake but even worse was switching from Rattay to Smith mid-season. Mid-season changes at QB rarely if ever work out. I'm really hoping the same thing doesnt happen this year. I really hope Kaepernick doesnt start at QB this year period unless he starts from week one and thats not going to happen.

McCarthy was bad and is only good because of the team he took over in GB. He basically got lucky with Rodgers and had the majority of pieces already filled in when he got to GB. Isnt Sullivan the guy everyone here hated or is that someone else? Either way, he wasnt any good anyway and it didnt matter who the DC was because it was all Nolan anyway. Nolan never let either coordinator do what they wanted to. Same with Sing.

When Turner left, it was like in June or something right? I think it was too late to find someone else. It doesnt matter either way, every HC, DC and OC we've had since Mariucci left has been pure crap except for Turner. Hopefully, Harbaugh will change the trend.

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Sing was obviously over-matched as a HC and didn't now Xs and Os to any level for someone capable to be in his position. A one trick pony motivator, and when that ran out, he had to go. Raye was a complete joke and was a prime example of how Sing didn't understand the modern aspects of an NFL offense. He just wanted to load up and crash the ball through the line, straight ahead, out-punishing the defense. The games has evolved since the '85 Bears won it all.
Exactly. I hated Singletary and Raye. When Raye was fired, I was hoping he would have let Johnson run the offense his way but didnt happen either. We've had the same problem since 2002. The HC runs everything and doesnt let his coordinators do what they want to do which is a disaster in the making. I'm just hoping that Harbaugh lets his coordinators do their job.
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Nolan had no idea how to manage a Game as a HC. U bet that Nolan make the wrong decision and u r right. He isnt a bad DC, but a bad HC...
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Do you guys think the 49ers are in a youth movement? I checked the official roster and we have only 7 players over 30

-Carlos Rogers
-David Akers
-Jonathan Goodwin
-Justin Smith
-Moran Norris- not guaranteed to make final roster
-Brian Jennings
-Tony Wragge

And 2 extra...

-Isaac Sopoaga (30 in Sept)
-Madieu Williams (30 in Oct)- not guaranteed to make final roster

A few players turn 30 in 2012 (Shawntae Spencer off the top of my head, not sure who else) but other than that we're surprisingly young. In the last year, the 49ers have gotten rid of 12 players over 30

-Demetric Evans
-Brian Westbrook
-Michael Lewis
-Joe Nedney
-Eric Heitmann
-William James
-David Carr
-Aubrayo Franklin
-Takeo Spikes
-Barry Sims
-Nate Clements
-Travis LaBoy

Just seeing the roster and it kind of jumped out at me. Most of our starters have been in the NFL for 4 years or more and are still relatively young, around the 26-28 mark. Just thought it was kind of interesting.

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Camp Confidential: San Francisco 49ers
August, 11, 2011
By Mike Sando
SANTA CLARA, Calif.


-- The sights and sounds of the typical NFL training camp aren't quite the same with Jim Harbaugh running things for the San Francisco 49ers.

The digital timers commonly used to break practices into periods do not exist here. The air horns NFL teams traditionally fire to signal transitions between periods never sound. Staffers generally responsible for managing such things can focus their attention elsewhere.

Harbaugh tracks it all himself, keeping the time in his head, sometimes without even consulting a watch. The only whistle at practice belongs to him. Harbaugh blows it when he's ready for a new period to begin. If there's a bad snap or miscue, too bad. It's on to the next play. Corrections can wait until the end of practice.

The devices teams have traditionally used to ensure practices move along on schedule would actually make it tougher for Harbaugh to push the tempo to his liking. In interviews right after practice, Harbaugh sometimes comes off as distracted, as though his mind is racing through the two-minute scenarios that helped him earn the nickname "Captain Comeback" as a player. Practice ended 12 minutes early Wednesday.

"There is no wasted time," said left tackle Joe Staley, a first-round draft choice in 2007. "I think that is carrying over to the mindset. This isn't just fun. This is our job."

Players accustomed to two-hour camp breaks at midday under other coaches now scarcely have any down time at all. They're in the building by 6:30 each morning and out by 9:30 each night. They do not leave the premises in the interim.

There's no more whining to a wife or girlfriend over lunch about the rigors of camp. Cupcaking, as Harbaugh calls it.

"You are always thinking football," said tight end Delanie Walker, who has been with the team since 2006. "That is what we needed. We needed to think football because we have a young team and they don't understand that this league is tough and if you lose focus on what we have to accomplish, that can hurt you."

THREE HOT ISSUES

1. Can Harbaugh fix Alex Smith? It's a tantalizing question for those still hopeful Smith might develop into a viable starter. There's no doubt Harbaugh brings more offensive expertise to the job than his recent predecessors did. Smith has embraced learning from a coach with Harbaugh's understanding of the position. One veteran player said Smith never lost the locker room in part because teammates knew the deck was stacked against him. "It's hard to describe what it's been like in the past as far as schematics go and how difficult it is to deal with, the situations we're put in as players," the player said. "I think with this new coaching staff, they want to put you in position to be successful. It's not just, 'We're going to run power because we're physical and we don't care if they have nine guys in the box.' Look at all the weapons we have, put them with our coaching staff and I think he's going to be productive." As always, though, it comes down to whether Smith can get it done during games. He's usually said the right things and taken the right approach during the offseason.

2. Why so many changes on defense? The 49ers absorbed criticism early in free agency as players departed and the organization took a measured approach to lining up replacements. Defensive starters Takeo Spikes, Aubrayo Franklin, Manny Lawson and Nate Clements did not return. Another defensive starter, Dashon Goldson, lingered on the market before taking a one-year deal to return. Where was the urgency? It's helpful to remember that the team's general manager, Trent Baalke, experienced firsthand the risks associated with aggressive free-agent spending while working for the Washington Redskins from 2001-04. And with a new defensive coordinator in Vic Fangio, priorities changed. Franklin was a pure two-gapping nose tackle. His replacement, Isaac Sopoaga, might be better suited for Fangio's slanting 3-4 scheme featuring fire-zone tactics in doses. The 49ers see the middle of their defense as even stronger following free agency. They love their depth at safety and are expecting a breakout year from NaVorro Bowman at inside linebacker next to Patrick Willis.

3. Can the 49ers 'buy in' yet again? The 49ers are on their third head coach and seventh offensive coordinator since 2005. Most recent seasons have begun with fresh promise, followed by disappointment and even disillusionment. Here comes Harbaugh, full of energy, pumping up hopes once again. I wondered whether players would be too jaded to invest fully from the beginning. "It's not about Harbaugh getting me to buy in again," Pro Bowl tight end Vernon Davis said. "It's not about him. It's about the team wanting to win games. ... There is nothing anybody can do to get me to be involved. I am going to be involved whether they like it or not, because that is what I do. You go through adversity, but you have to keep believing."

BIGGEST SURPRISE

Dashon Goldson's return. The 49ers suddenly have options at safety after Goldson, a 2010 starter, returned on a one-year deal for $2 million. The situation played out perfectly for the team. San Francisco signed Donte Whitner and Madieu Williams in free agency while Goldson tested a soft market. Reggie Smith was having a good camp before suffering a knee injury that will keep him out for at least a couple of weeks. The team still has Taylor Mays as well, at least for now. Whitner (strong) and Goldson (free) project as the likely starters unless Smith can get healthy enough to make another run at the job before the season. Goldson has plenty of motivation entering a contract year. Whitner started quickly and wore down with Buffalo last season. The 49ers' offense can help him out by sustaining drives and giving the defense some rest.

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT

Michael Crabtree's injury. This marks the third lost offseason in three years for the player San Francisco drafted 10th overall in 2009. Crabtree missed camp and the first six regular-season weeks of his rookie season during a contract dispute. A neck injury prevented him from playing in a single exhibition game last summer. A foot injury has prevented Crabtree from practicing even once at camp this season. The 49ers protected themselves by signing Braylon Edwards to a one-year deal, but they need more in return from their investment in Crabtree.

OBSERVATION DECK

As much as the 49ers valued Spikes, they were ready to go with Bowman next to Willis on the inside. Bowman came on strong late last season, particularly in a Week 17 game against Arizona. The 49ers hope he can become a Jon Beason type. If that happens, they'll have one of the best inside linebacker combinations in the league.

Right guard Chilo Rachal has been inconsistent to this point in his career. His weight is down from the 330 range to about 310 and has dipped closer to 300 after practices. Has Rachal matured and become more serious about his craft? It's too early to say, but at least he reported to camp at a promising weight.

Increasing roster limits from 80 to 90 players has helped Harbaugh transition from college, where programs can bring 105 players to camp. It's common for Harbaugh to send the starting offense against the No. 2 defense on one field, with the backup offense and starting defense on another. That would be unusual in the NFL in the age of 80-man rosters.

In retrospect, it's pretty clear the 49ers were never serious about adding Nnamdi Asomugha, Chad Ochocinco or other big names in free agency. They've given great weight to dynamics within the locker room when deciding which players to pay handsomely.

Running back Frank Gore's brief holdout quickly became a non-story when the team promised to revisit his deal in good faith as the season progresses. Gore appeared in terrific spirits during my visit to camp. At one point during practice, Gore spotted ESPN analyst and former 49ers teammate Trent Dilfer standing near the sideline. He came over to greet Dilfer and then noticed Baalke, the GM, standing nearby. After embracing Dilfer, Gore turned to Baalke and extended a hand. They shook hands and shared a few laughs before Gore returned to his teammates. Gore, upon hearing adoring cries from a fan attending the same practice, broke away to hug her.

The 49ers are banking on a strong relationship between Harbaugh and Baalke. The two became close during the lockout. They are also competitors on the racquetball court, where Harbaugh's competitive edge comes through. Harbaugh has come back from 13-0 and 18-7 deficits to beat his GM. The coach typically begins his comebacks by dropping subtle comments designed to unnerve his opponent. He then changes up his approach, becoming less predictable. Consider it a metaphor for his coaching style. Gone are the days when lining up in a certain formation precipitated running a certain play.

The 49ers are fortunate Harbaugh agreed to retain defensive line coach Jim Tomsula from the previous staff. The bond between Tomsula and players at the position is uncommonly strong. Defensive end Ray McDonald re-signed without even testing free agency. The team made bringing back McDonald a priority given the premium teams place on defensive linemen in the draft. Losing McDonald might have forced the team to more strongly consider drafting one early.

Edwards' addition at receiver gives the team needed size at the position while Crabtree is unavailable. "The first time I saw him work out here, I thought he was a tight end," safety Curtis Taylor said.

Rookie second-round choice Colin Kaepernick is getting high marks from Harbaugh to this point in camp. Kaepernick's mobility and arm strength do stand out during practices. He also has a longer delivery, as advertised. I watched closely to see whether the delivery allowed defensive backs to jump pass routes more ably. That did not appear to be the case in practice. Kaepernick's lean frame made me wonder about his ability to take a hit to the legs. At Harbaugh's direction, quarterbacks are wearing braces on their left knees, which tend to be most vulnerable when right-handed quarterbacks deliver the ball.

Kaepernick will likely get on the field one way or another even if Smith remains the starter. There are no indications Kaepernick will start in Week 1, but Harbaugh isn't making any public declarations.

Fangio has been pushing first-round pick Aldon Smith hard in practice even though Smith flashed plenty of ability early in camp. Smith is grinding a bit while absorbing the defense. He seems to be taking Fangio's criticism in stride.

Harbaugh strongly emphasizes practicing within the context of situations, moreso than I would have expected during the early stages of installing the playbook. Some fans attending a recent practice laughed when they saw punter Andy Lee take a snap from center and spike the ball to stop the clock. Count Harbaugh as one of the coaches, Bill Belichick among them, who favor sending on the punt team following third-down plays during two-minute situations when it's not clear whether the offense got a first down. If the offense gets a new set of downs, the punter spikes the ball. If not, the regular punt call remains.

It's not unusual for the 49ers' first-team offense to execute four or more two-minute drills in one day, up from one in the past. Harbaugh frames most practice reps within down, distance and time. Pro Bowl defensive end Justin Smith: "Things are a lot more detailed. Every coach at their position is pretty well near the top. Everything we've heard from them has been right on point."

The quote of camp so far came from another Smith, Alex, when asked about changes on offense: "Obviously, what we were doing wasn't working -- all of us, me included. That is the definition of insanity, right? Doing the same thing and expecting a different result."
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Do you guys think the 49ers are in a youth movement? I checked the official roster and we have only 7 players over 30

-Carlos Rogers
-David Akers
-Jonathan Goodwin
-Justin Smith
-Moran Norris- not guaranteed to make final roster
-Brian Jennings
-Tony Wragge

And 2 extra...

-Isaac Sopoaga (30 in Sept)
-Madieu Williams (30 in Oct)- not guaranteed to make final roster

A few players turn 30 in 2012 (Shawntae Spencer off the top of my head, not sure who else) but other than that we're surprisingly young. In the last year, the 49ers have gotten rid of 12 players over 30

-Demetric Evans
-Brian Westbrook
-Michael Lewis
-Joe Nedney
-Eric Heitmann
-William James
-David Carr
-Aubrayo Franklin
-Takeo Spikes
-Barry Sims
-Nate Clements
-Travis LaBoy

Just seeing the roster and it kind of jumped out at me. Most of our starters have been in the NFL for 4 years or more and are still relatively young, around the 26-28 mark. Just thought it was kind of interesting.
Younger is better because they have a bigger upside going forward. And even though a lot of our core players are young like Davis, Gore, Willis and others, they have played long enough to where they're considered veterans on the team so going younger and younger isnt hurting us at all.

Rogers is still younger than Clements was and is a solid CB even though im still hoping we inquire about the Eagles CB Asante Samuel. Akers is the one move that puzzles me. Replacing a 36 year old left footed kicker with a 32 year old left footed kicker doesnt make any sense to me. I would have liked to see us re-sign Reed instead or better yet, go after Packers K Mason Crosby. Akers is good but I dont even remember the last time we had a young and good franchise kicker. Goodwin is a veteran to replace Baas but he was going to be 30 anyway so not much of a difference. Smith is still awesome so obviously no complaints with him. Would like to see Norris gone. I'll be shocked if he makes the final 53 beause I just dont see how he fits in with Harbaugh's WCO. Jennings is arguably the best LS in the NFL and as long as he stays that way, he can be 50 for all I care. Wragge is a veteran backup so no biggie there either.

Sopoaga isnt going anywhere and unless Reggie's injury is major, I dont see Williams making the final 53. He was signed before Whitner and Goldson and because of that, is the odd man out. Out of those players let go, I would have kept Sims because he was solid replacing Staley last year and would be an insurance policy if Boone isnt ready.

What I would really love to see is us sign veteran OG Brian Waters. Granted, he's a LG but I still think that he would be a huge upgrade ove Rachal at RG plus his veteran leadership would be a positive for RT Davis.

On a related side note, dont know about others here but Madden wise, im happy about the Edwards and Whitner signings. Both are rated 85 overall. Edwards should be the highest rated WR with Crabtree second and Morgan third. I must admit that Davis, Edwards and Crabtree has the potential to be one hell of a force. Replacing Lawson with Smith will be a decline as well as losing Franklin but the offense should be better with the addition of Edwards. The offense may finally be rated better than the defense. LOL.
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McCarthy was bad and is only good because of the team he took over in GB. He basically got lucky with Rodgers and had the majority of pieces already filled in when he got to GB. Isnt Sullivan the guy everyone here hated or is that someone else? Either way, he wasnt any good anyway and it didnt matter who the DC was because it was all Nolan anyway. Nolan never let either coordinator do what they wanted to. Same with Sing.
Don't agree with this. McCarthy has had success prior to his stop in San Francisco. And even though he had a decent roster when he went to the Packers, that was five years ago. Things have changed and he's still providing quality depth in depth like Matt Flynn at the quarterback position. He also has much better management under his belt in Ted Thompson.
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