San Francisco 49ers Discussion

[dan77733]

Originally Posted by VAfy-ya

Momentum my azz. That didnt stop the Saints from throwing for 5 TDs in the second half. Could have been more but they called the dogs off those last two posesssions. We'll just have to agree to disagree Dan. But you sound like all those Steeler fans who were saying that they got hosed on Monday Night when we played them. A couple of calls here and there isnt why the Lions lost. Its not like they were the far superior team who lost a close one to a weaker team. Maybe then I could see those calls being a factor. They lost because they were the inferior team. And the Saints won going away. We just don't see eye to eye on this one.

Fine...we'll agree to disagree.

To others.....give me a break. We've all seen a lot of games where the home team gets breaks and calls to go their way and majority of the time, helps that team win so dont say that never happens because it does and more times than you realize.

And im not making excuses if we lose fair and square. If we lose because of ********, i'll call it as such because thats what it is.

[Mufasa]

How are your linebackers in coverage? The Saints offense runs through their tight ends and runningbacks. If you can contain them I like your chances

[Borat]

Playoff Gameday Thread is up!

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by Mufasa

How are your linebackers in coverage? The Saints offense runs through their tight ends and runningbacks. If you can contain them I like your chances

All NFL LBs can be beaten because it's a natural mismatch but I'll say this...

Coverage is a big part of why Patrick Willis and NaVorro Bowman are First Team All-Pro's!!!

The scary thing... Larry Grant (their backup) is the best of the three, in coverage.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by VAfy-ya

Or probably the other way around. Or maybe you want to check the stats from Alex's victory over the G-Men and Ryan's blowout loss to them. Ryan is severly overated. And I didnt need his showing today to let me know that. He's just been surrounded by better coaching for a longer period. You put Ryan in this offense and he is no better than Smith. I firmly believe that.

Believe what you want man. Chris Redman doesn't do the same thing that Ryan does when he is in there, despite the talent and coaching. Oh and using Alex's game against the Giants at home to try and prove a point is pretty dumb. Regardless of the home field advantage, have you never seen a worse quarterback have a good game against a good team and a better quarterback have a bad game against the very same team?

Kyle Orton lit up the Packers this year, and Stafford looked horrible against them the first time when he played their starters. Doesn't mean Orton is a better quarterback or on the same level as Stafford.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

White and Jones, maybe, but Gonzo was already a Hall of Famer. White was also pretty good with Harrington and Redman at QB in 2007.

You can't just plug in random quarterbacks though regardless of the talent around you. You still need a guy in there to have pocket presence, good instincts, and accurate throwing. This is why Jaime Martin sucked with the Rams when he replaced Marc Bugler despite having Holt and Bruce on the outside with Jackson in the backfield. Or the same reason Cody Carlson sucked when Warren Moon left the Oilers despite having guys like Jeffires, Givens, and Slaughter in a pass happy offense that was successful for the previous seven or so years.

[Borat]

Originally Posted by Ness

Or the same reason Cody Carlson sucked when Warren Moon left the Oilers despite having guys like Jeffires, Givens, and Slaughter in a pass happy offense that was successful for the previous seven or so years.

Those Oiler teams were so much fun to watch.

Sorry. Carry on with the never-ending Alex Smith debate.

[VAfy-ya]

Originally Posted by Ness

Believe what you want man. Chris Redman doesn't do the same thing that Ryan does when he is in there, despite the talent and coaching. Oh and using Alex's game against the Giants at home to try and prove a point is pretty dumb. Regardless of the home field advantage, have you never seen a worse quarterback have a good game against a good team and a better quarterback have a bad game against the very same team?

Kyle Orton lit up the Packers this year, and Stafford looked horrible against them the first time when he played their starters. Doesn't mean Orton is a better quarterback or on the same level as Stafford.

Of course Chris Redman doesn't do what Ryan does, he isnt a good QB...duh. Just because I say he's overated doesn't mean he isn't better than Redman. Orton lit up the Packers? No, his team beat them. His stat line that game was ok. Not spectacular, not great. You don't need a great game from your QB to beat a team with a great QB. I'm going by what I've seen from Ryan's personal performance when I've watched him play. I've been less than impressed.

[abaddon41_80]

Originally Posted by Ness

You can't just plug in random quarterbacks though regardless of the talent around you. You still need a guy in there to have pocket presence, good instincts, and accurate throwing. This is why Jaime Martin sucked with the Rams when he replaced Marc Bugler despite having Holt and Bruce on the outside with Jackson in the backfield. Or the same reason Cody Carlson sucked when Warren Moon left the Oilers despite having guys like Jeffires, Givens, and Slaughter in a pass happy offense that was successful for the previous seven or so years.

My point is that the players around Ryan are better than those around Smith and that they have shown as much when playing without Ryan.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by VAfy-ya

Of course Chris Redman doesn't do what Ryan does, he isnt a good QB...duh. Just because I say he's overated doesn't mean he isn't better than Redman. Orton lit up the Packers? No, his team beat them. His stat line that game was ok. Not spectacular, not great. You don't need a great game from your QB to beat a team with a great QB. I'm going by what I've seen from Ryan's personal performance when I've watched him play. I've been less than impressed.

Throwing for 299 yards and completing the majority of your passes while not turning the ball over isn't lighting up a team? I guess we have different parameters then. Whatever. You know how I feel about Ryan so that's that.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by Borat

Those Oiler teams were so much fun to watch.

Sorry. Carry on with the never-ending Alex Smith debate.

The Run N' Shoot needs to come back. I miss the Moon Man.

And those Oiler uniforms were awesome.

[Borat]

Originally Posted by Ness

The Run N' Shoot needs to come back. I miss the Moon Man.

And those Oiler uniforms were awesome.

Houston was my "other" team that I only passively rooted for. Loved their talent level. Alas, they were a big disappointment in the end.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Borat

Houston was my "other" team that I only passively rooted for. Loved their talent level. Alas, they were a big disappointment in the end.

I root for the Texans out of spite of Cowboys fans.

[Borat]

I'm watching the National Championship game and I feel like the 9ers are playing the 9ers. It's just a ******** of field goals and awesome defense.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by Borat

Houston was my "other" team that I only passively rooted for. Loved their talent level. Alas, they were a big disappointment in the end.

That team never made it past the divisional round in the playoffs. And they made it seven straight times. Dome teams in the playoffs.

Hmm...

[boknows34]

30 years ago today.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...module=HP11_cp

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by Borat

I'm watching the National Championship game and I feel like the 9ers are playing the 9ers. It's just a ******** of field goals and awesome defense.

Alabama is VERY similar to Harbaugh's Niners. Both O and D. Similar multiple shifts and everything.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by Borat

Houston was my "other" team that I only passively rooted for. Loved their talent level. Alas, they were a big disappointment in the end.

Glanville's Oilers were my favorite team to root for outside of the 49ers.

Was easily one of my favorite non-49ers who ever played. Certainly didn't hurt that his DBs coach was Nick Saban.

[49erNation85]

Gonna be a long hell of week until our game on Sat. I'll miss the first half sadly gr to working .

[Matthew Jones]

Good luck in the game this weekend!

[chapo123]

been a minute since i last was on...AWESOME game yesterday!

updated my mock out of boredom:

1. janoris jenkins -
rogers has been lights out and is a free agent plus spencer may not be back
2. kendall wright -
need a deep threat
3. derek wolfe - de
smith is getting older - time to groom someone for the future
4. trumaine johnson - s
5. scott wedige - c
6. mike ryan - ot
7. jarret lee - qb

[YAYareaRB]

Jenkins SHOULD be long gone before we pick. Kendall Wright will not last till the 2nd round.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

Jenkins SHOULD be long gone before we pick. Kendall Wright will not last till the 2nd round.

Yeah, Jenkins and Wright would be a dream. Unfortunately they're both likely to be gone before the 49ers pick at #32.

[PhysicalwithanF]

Im hoping Wright falls to us..but his stock is already soaring.

[VAfy-ya]

From Elias: Alex Smith gave the 49ers a lead with a 28-yard run with 2:11 remaining in the fourth quarter, and then gave his team its final lead by hitting Vernon Davis on a 14-yard touchdown pass with just nine seconds remaining in San Francisco's 36-32 win over New Orleans. Smith became the first player in NFL history to score a go-ahead touchdown and to throw a go-ahead touchdown pass (in either order) in the fourth quarter of the same postseason game - much less to do both of those things with so little time remaining in the quarter.