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Old 02-01-2009, 10:48 AM    (permalink
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But he's 37! That's not a solution.
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We're always going to have other needs than second runningback, but i think in the longterm view, it makes sense to get a second starter type back now. It could possibly extend Frank's career, would keep both of our RBs fresher as the season went on, and would give other teams someone else to have to gameplan against. I think it makes tons of sense, actually... I don't think I'd want us to spend our first round pick on an RB unless we traded down (and in that case I'd want Knowshon, NOT Beanie Wells) but in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? Yeah, I think it would be a smart pick. In fact, I wish we'd done something like this last year-- Ray Rice would look good in scarlet and gold.
There's little to no point using a first day (or former first day) pick on a backup RB when we can use it on a greater need.

I agree that someone to spell Gore when he gets tired and change the pace is a good idea, but as long as we work on the line and the new scheme works out then we can get a decent option on day two.

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If we look for a FB in Free Agency, keep an eye out for Tony Richardson. He's worked with Raye before and is a UFA. Wherever he goes, the running offense shines. He was with KC (under Raye). He was blocking for Adrian Peterson his rookie year. And he was with the Jets this year, paving the way for Thomas Jones and Leon Washington. He's one of the best lead blockers in the game.
Good point. It wouldn't surprise me to see him brought in as a veteran stop-gap if we can't get a younger option, especially after Raye's point about us not having a proper FB...

He is 37 though.
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Age is the only reason that he is a question mark. other than that he is quite the intimidating run blocker. could be a stop gap and maybe teach Keasey a thing or two, unless we abandon that strange experiment
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But he's 37! That's not a solution.
I agree, i'd rather draft someone or get a younger FA. Just saying i wouldn't be surprised if we pursue him, he has knowledge of the offense and he is always lead blocking for great running games.


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Keasey sucks. I'd rather draft someone in the 6th/7th round to learn under Richardson than have Keasey on our team. He can't lead block or catch the ball, he's useless.
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I was wondering if we were going to receive any compensatory picks; does anyone know?
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Someone told me that we should receive at least one in the 3rd or 4th round
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I heard we should be getting around two.
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I heard we should be getting around two.
Conditional picks are never higher than a 3rd if I am not mistaken.
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Conditional picks are never higher than a 3rd if I am not mistaken.
Two picks not second round.
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Ah, my mistake. Hopefully we get a couple but who are they going to be for? Anthony Adams and someone else?
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Ah, my mistake. Hopefully we get a couple but who are they going to be for? Anthony Adams and someone else?
McCloughan says we'll get two.

Q: Hi Scot. How many compensatory picks will the team have in this year’s draft? If known, what rounds will they be in? I believe compensatory picks are based on free agents lost, can you clarify? How many total picks will the team have in this year’s draft? Congratulations on a great second half of the season and I can tell the team is moving in the right direction. Thank you.
-Jack, Sacramento

A: We will have two compensatory picks. We’re not sure about which rounds yet, but I have a pretty good feeling of where they’re going to be.

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I just chipped in I don't know how many more times I can say the same things. I also love how we present facts and they sit there with nothing.
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I just chipped in I don't know how many more times I can say the same things. I also love how we present facts and they sit there with nothing.
Yes this drives me crazy too but like Borat said if your not a 1st round pick people on a DRAFT site assume your terrible
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I just chipped in I don't know how many more times I can say the same things. I also love how we present facts and they sit there with nothing.
But it's Shaun Hill, clearly he sucks ass because he hasn't won a super bowl and the Niners weren't in the playoffs. I mean, how can any QB ever be respected if they just do a decent job. Either win 12 games from the start or don't bother me with your "facts." My facts come from my gut, not my brain, and my gut tells me that Shaun Hill is worse than Mark Sanchez at this very moment.
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Quick 49ers 3-rounder:

1st Rd: Best OT available: Smith/Smith/Monroe/Oher all work fine for me.
2nd Rd: Larry English OLB - Pass rusher that I'm really high on
3rd Rd: Fili Moala NT- I think this guy can be the NT we've lacked and I feel more comfortable taking a space-eating NT in the second or third rather than the first. Ron Brace could be good here as well if he drops to the third.
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That PrinceFieldler guy and his Sanchez talk is as annoying to me as I am to all you guys. LOL.

Joking aside, if we draft ANY qb at 10, I will be 100% pissed off.
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But it's Shaun Hill, clearly he sucks ass because he hasn't won a super bowl and the Niners weren't in the playoffs. I mean, how can any QB ever be respected if they just do a decent job. Either win 12 games from the start or don't bother me with your "facts." My facts come from my gut, not my brain, and my gut tells me that Shaun Hill is worse than Mark Sanchez at this very moment.
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But it's Shaun Hill, clearly he sucks ass because he hasn't won a super bowl and the Niners weren't in the playoffs. I mean, how can any QB ever be respected if they just do a decent job. Either win 12 games from the start or don't bother me with your "facts." My facts come from my gut, not my brain, and my gut tells me that Shaun Hill is worse than Mark Sanchez at this very moment.
Cant argue with that flawless logic
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1st Rd: Best OT available: Smith/Smith/Monroe/Oher all work fine for me.
2nd Rd: Larry English OLB - Pass rusher that I'm really high on
3rd Rd: Fili Moala NT- I think this guy can be the NT we've lacked and I feel more comfortable taking a space-eating NT in the second or third rather than the first. Ron Brace could be good here as well if he drops to the third.
With Ice and Franklin is it really worth it to draft another NT?
I could see us taking Raji because he could be dominant, but all the other guys in the draft do not seem like they are anything better than our current NTs, so I dont see the point in taking Brace or Moala or any other NT beyond Rajji.

BTW I love the first two picks, however Oher did not look any better than Loadholt in the senior bowl, so why dont we just get Loadholt?
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I just dont like the idea of spending a top 10 pick on a guy to play RT. He'd be making more than Staley.
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New offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye said last week that he thought that Frank Gore was capable of handling 25 carries a game, an indication that he at least feels the one-back approach is feasible. On the team's web site, however, general manager Scot McCloughan seemed pretty gung ho about having a two-pronged attack: "A two running back system will work," McCloughan said. "I think nowadays you have to have that type of system in the NFL, especially with our approach on offense - being a physical running team. You don't just need a change of pace guy, but you need two backs that can have production. If you just have one, you're going to where (sic) him down. It's a long season so if you want to be a playoff contender and get to the Super Bowl, you're going to need two backs to get there."

If the 49ers indeed settle on the two-back approach, they likely will have to go out and find that second running back. DeShaun Foster becomes a free agent in three and a half weeks and the team appears to be in no hurry to re-sign him. Thomas Clayton showed flashes of brilliance in preseason, but coaches so far have been unwilling to give him any bigger role than practice-squad running back. Michael Robinson would be a real headache for defenses with the ball in his hand in the Wildcat, something the 49ers want to do more with in 2009. But while he's a nifty runner in space, Robinson, a converted quarterback, still is not natural at finding the holes and bursting through them. It's quite possible the 49ers will draft a running back with size in April such as Liberty's Rashad Jennings or N.C. State's Andre Brown.
Thoughts on a RB being drafted in first three rounds?
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Thoughts on a RB being drafted in first three rounds?
I wouldn't take one before round four unless it's Shonn Green in the third.
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I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
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With Ice and Franklin is it really worth it to draft another NT?
I could see us taking Raji because he could be dominant, but all the other guys in the draft do not seem like they are anything better than our current NTs, so I dont see the point in taking Brace or Moala or any other NT beyond Rajji.
I'm just not that happy with our NT play overall. I'd keep throwing picks at that problem until we get it fixed ... or until we switch to 4-3 and the NT won't be such a big problem.
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BTW I love the first two picks, however Oher did not look any better than Loadholt in the senior bowl, so why dont we just get Loadholt?
Loadholt can't play OT (either LT or RT) at the pro level. He's going to have to play guard and I think we're good at guard right now.

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I just dont like the idea of spending a top 10 pick on a guy to play RT. He'd be making more than Staley.
I hear what you're saying there, but the same could have been said about drafting a 3-4 ILB (Willis) with the 11th pick. I think the way this draft will fall, one of those top OT should slide to us and I think it would be a mistake to not plug the gap at RT with one of them.
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