26 Players Test Positive At Combine?

[kwilk103]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ive-test-list/

[umphrey]

In the past, we’ve heard tales of players going on a smoking spree after giving their urine sample at the Combine; this year, we’ve heard of at least one player who claims he smoked pot the night before the test.

Who was that?


When you read the article it seems like it was all about pot. Pot doesn't mean a lot to NFL execs but you want to know who is on the juice and find out about any serious addictions (ex, cocaine, meth).

Perhaps the players don't even care if they test positive for pot these days?

That doesn't make sense to be, because I would want to show my employer that I care about football more than getting high. But a lot of things these guys do makes no sense to me so it's a possibility.

[the decider13]

lol@the guy who toked right before the test

[619]

Originally Posted by umphrey

Who was that?

I'm guessing Harvin. He seems that ignorant.

[the decider13]

Originally Posted by Percy Harvin

Hey Mr. Test examiner man...you got a light? This thing ain't gonna light itself

That's pretty much how I see the conversation with Percy and the drug tester

[regoob2]

Maybe they all got together and agreed that if they all smoke then none will drop because everyone else did it. Morons.

[umphrey]

Originally Posted by regoob2

Maybe they all got together and agreed that if they all smoke then none will drop because everyone else did it. Morons.

That would actually take great intelligence, coordination and trustworthiness for even 26 of 32 first round prospects to pull off.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by umphrey

Pot doesn't mean a lot to NFL execs but you want to know who is on the juice

I used to believe that as well but it's not universal.

Former GM Charlie Casserly stated on NFLNetwork that he has left players on his draft board that had failed for steroids at the Combine (used Luis Castillo as an example). He then said that if a player failed a marijuana test at the Combine he was automatically removed from the draft board.

[Geo]

26 players??? No way, I don't believe it.

[Hurricanes25]

If that is true, they are 26 morons

[Brent]

A league source speculated it could be as high as 25... sounds like someone is talking out their ass.

[PossibleCabbage]

Originally Posted by umphrey

Pot doesn't mean a lot to NFL execs but you want to know who is on the juice and find out about any serious addictions (ex, cocaine, meth).

Failing a drug test for pot during the season will get you suspended the same as failing a drug test for steroids or crystal meth. "You can't play because you're suspended" hurts the team the same no matter the reason for that suspension.

Yes, steroids and seriously addictive drugs are more of a risk because players who go off roids to avoid tests often end up losing what made them high draft picks to begin with (e.g. Tony Mandarich), and players who have serious addictions to the harder stuff will have more trouble kicking the habit during the season to avoid drug tests.

But if a guy can't put down the spliff while training for the NFL combine, the most important job interview of his life which contains a drug test that he knows is coming, you have to question his ability to avoid doing whatever it is that made him fail the test during the season when the drug tests are random.

It's certainly forgivable, but it would be foolish to say that it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter whether or not a guy got busted for pot at some point during his college career, but nobody's going to discount the fact that a guy couldn't stay clean for a drug test he knows is coming.

[gdamac]

I think it should be legal. But I also think you have to be smart enough to NOT test positive at the combine.

[hagy34]

It's really sad that kids who are about to make millions cannot stay clean in the month leading up to a test they knew they would have to take.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Fight the power.

[Abaddon]

Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

Failing a drug test for pot during the season will get you suspended the same as failing a drug test for steroids or crystal meth. "You can't play because you're suspended" hurts the team the same no matter the reason for that suspension.

Yes, steroids and seriously addictive drugs are more of a risk because players who go off roids to avoid tests often end up losing what made them high draft picks to begin with (e.g. Tony Mandarich), and players who have serious addictions to the harder stuff will have more trouble kicking the habit during the season to avoid drug tests.

But if a guy can't put down the spliff while training for the NFL combine, the most important job interview of his life which contains a drug test that he knows is coming, you have to question his ability to avoid doing whatever it is that made him fail the test during the season when the drug tests are random.

It's certainly forgivable, but it would be foolish to say that it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter whether or not a guy got busted for pot at some point during his college career, but nobody's going to discount the fact that a guy couldn't stay clean for a drug test he knows is coming.

This.

In the grand scheme of things, smoking weed is no more a big deal than drinking. BUT, alcohol isn't likely to show up in drug screens unless you're buzzing when you piss in the cup. One joint will have you pissing hot for up to 2 weeks. Regular smokers need a couple months to get clean. Ironically, coke is out of your system in around 72 hours, making it the "safer" option.

Why people still make a big deal over marijuana is beyond me. But, until some common sense is applied to marijuana laws, expect the league to keep treating it like the "devil weed" the old and ignorant among us believe it to be.

Apologies to anyone here who actually still believes that nonsense...but you are most decidedly ignorant.

[PACKmanN]

at least their constant.

[Caddy]

If this is anywhere near true I will be shocked. These guys are months away from fulfilling a life dream and they potentially throw it away with failed drug tests.

[Mr. Hero]

This is just civil disobedience on a bigger stage. These athletes knew they'd get caught, they're just standing up for their beliefs...or there's just a lot of morons who had a little too much faith in veil and similar masking agents.

[brat316]

and now this draft will become worse then 05

[yourfavestoner]

I love this draft class.

[Me Likey Rookies]

Originally Posted by phlysac

I used to believe that as well but it's not universal.

Former GM Charlie Casserly stated on NFLNetwork that he has left players on his draft board that had failed for steroids at the Combine (used Luis Castillo as an example). He then said that if a player failed a marijuana test at the Combine he was automatically removed from the draft board.

That is an awful way of thinking for a GM. Didnt Calvin Johnson admit marijuana use at the combine? Would he leave him off the board?

But I guess CJ's case is different for someone stupid enough to get tested positive at the combine, but it is not grounds for automatic removal from the board.

[PossibleCabbage]

Originally Posted by Me Likey Rookies

That is an awful way of thinking for a GM. Didnt Calvin Johnson admit marijuana use at the combine? Would he leave him off the board?

But I guess CJ's case is different for someone stupid enough to get tested positive at the combine, but it is not grounds for automatic removal from the board.

Yeah, it's an important distinction. Calvin Johnson admitted that he had smoked weed in an interview in the combine. He was being honest, a lot of the guys at the combine probably had smoked weed at least once or twice in their lives. Probably more than a few NFL scouts and coaches as well.

But what Calvin Johnson did not do is "smoke weed when he knew he had a drug test upcoming at the combine, a bad result in which might cost him millions of dollars." The guys who fail drug tests that they know are coming at the combine are either really into weed or are really stupid. I can see discounting a guy for either reason, honestly. As a football team, I don't have much use for a guy who's more into drugs than football, and I only have limited roster spots for really stupid people.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

This.

In the grand scheme of things, smoking weed is no more a big deal than drinking. BUT, alcohol isn't likely to show up in drug screens unless you're buzzing when you piss in the cup. One joint will have you pissing hot for up to 2 weeks. Regular smokers need a couple months to get clean. Ironically, coke is out of your system in around 72 hours, making it the "safer" option.

Why people still make a big deal over marijuana is beyond me. But, until some common sense is applied to marijuana laws, expect the league to keep treating it like the "devil weed" the old and ignorant among us believe it to be.

Apologies to anyone here who actually still believes that nonsense...but you are most decidedly ignorant.

I think it just shows a bit of a lack of committment as a player. Sort of compare it to Andre Smith getting an agent and blowing off the combine, just shows he's not disciplined. As for the weed i'd treat that pretty much as alchohol also.

[therock6000]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

and now this draft will become worse then 05

God I hope you're wrong...