The Apocalypse - Page 5

Paranoidmoonduck · 04-24-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vikes_29

666 666 666

Funny enough, the actual "mark of the beast" is 661. People changed it to make it more consistent. And apparently one of the many highway's that was once numbered 666 and was changed to avoid bad luck changed it to 661.

Ravens1991 · 04-25-2009, 12:15 AM

that is funny.

I just finished running on my treadmil and I figured I will stop at 600 calories burned, as I stoped it turns out I ran 20:12 and I ran for 3.366 miles. 2012 and 3+3=6 so 666. It was a funny coincidence lol.

But really regarding 2012 I have seen everything from asteroids, to the compass directions switching causing gigantic storms IDK what to believe anymore. Apparently Nostradamus claims end times will happen at 2012 as well but he wrote hundreds maybe thousands of vague predictions

TitleTown088 · 04-25-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Paranoidmoonduck

Funny enough, the actual "mark of the beast" is 661. People changed it to make it more consistent. And apparently one of the many highway's that was once numbered 666 and was changed to avoid bad luck changed it to 661.

I don't think that's correct. You may be able to read that places on the internet and such, but I've read and had it explained much differently to me by professors.

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Originally Posted by BrownsTown

At the end of a string of repeating 6s there's usually a 7 due to 6 being rounded up?

It's actually pretty difficult to explain and I'm no scholar on the matter, I'll try to explain it from a purely historical standpoint. In early Christian theology there is no concept of true "evil" contrary to what may heard or and taught elsewhere today. There is only a perversion of good, or what is not "right and true". 7 is supposed to represent the logos ( truth, J-man, ect) and anything different from this is considered a perversion. The number 6 is supposed to represent something contrary to 7, a perversion of good. aka, the anti-Christ, which would be the opposite of the logos.

Its some very interesting but complicated stuff to study.

Paranoidmoonduck · 04-25-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TitleTown088

I don't think that's correct. You may be able to read that places on the internet and such, but I've read and had it explained much differently to me by professors.

You're right, it's actually 616. I misremembered.

the decider13 · 04-25-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent

"Mexico Shuts Schools Amid Deadly Flu Outbreak"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/25/wo...mexico.html?em

Pandemic gaining steam!

shiz...I don't want that. I picked manbearpig, I don't wanna die by pandemic.

trkaline · 04-25-2009, 09:09 AM

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shiz...I don't want that. I picked manbearpig, I don't wanna die by pandemic.

Damn those Peruvian Flute Bands...

CJSchneider · 04-25-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paranoidmoonduck

You're right, it's actually 616. I misremembered.

Revelation 13:16-18

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

LizardState · 04-25-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by A Perfect Score

Nanobots dude...nanobots

That's the Gray Goo theory, these teeny-tiny nearly microscopic nanobots develop the ability to replicate themselves & the chain reaction kicks off, so the world's surface is covered with them in like 8 days, looks like a spreading gray goo from the satellites. Hey, the History Channel is never wrong!

Just posting in this apocalyptic dread thread as I look at today's headlines in the San Jose Mercury News : OUTBREAK IN MEXICO --Deadly Flu Triggers Vigilance in Valley, then the disclaimer: SO FAR, NO CASES OF NEW SWINE FLU HAVE BEEN FOUND IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. Pandemic fear sells newspapers!

Ravens1991 · 04-25-2009, 11:43 AM

ya on the news they said 8 people in America have it but they all were fine

Paranoidmoonduck · 04-25-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CJSchneider

Revelation 13:16-18

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

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The early Church father Irenaeus knew several occurrences of the 616-variant but regarded them as a scribal error and affirmed that the number 666 stood "in all the most approved and ancient copies" and is attested by "those men who saw John face to face".[12]

In May 2005, it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques[13] had been able to read previously illegible portions of the earliest known record of the Book of Revelation(a 1,700 year old papyrus), from the Oxyrhynchus site, Papyrus 115 or P115, dating one century after Irenaeus. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616 (chi, iota, stigma), rather than the majority text 666 (chi, xi, stigma).[1] The other early witness Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (C) has it written in full: hexakosiai deka hex (lit. six hundred sixteen).[14]

Significantly, P115 aligns with Codex Alexandrinus (A) and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (C) which are generally regarded as providing the best testimony to Revelation. Thus, P115 has superior testimony to that of P47 which aligns with Codex Sinaiticus and together form the second-best witness to the Book of Revelation. This has led some scholars to conclude that 616 is the original number of the beast.[15][16]

Dr. Paul Lewes in his book, A Key to Christian Origins (1932) wrote:
"The figure 616 is given in one of the two best manuscripts, C (Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus, Paris), by the Latin version of Tyconius (DCXVI, ed. Souter in the Journal of Theology, SE, April 1913), and by an ancient Armenian version (ed. Conybaere, 1907). Irenaeus knew about it [the 616 reading], but did not adopt it (Haer. v.30,3), Jerome adopted it (De Monogramm., ed. Dom G Morin in the Rev. Benedictine, 1903). It is probably original. The number 666 has been substituted for 616 either by analogy with 888, the [Greek] number of Jesus (Deissmann), or because it is a triangular number, the sum of the first 36 numbers (1+2+3+4+5+6...+36 = 666)".[17]

Professor David C. Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original.[18] Dr. Ellen Aitken said: “Scholars have argued for a long time over this, and it now seems that 616 was the original number of the beast. It's probably about 100 years before any other version."[19]

I'm just going by the age of the translations. 666 was more elegant and so it's understandable that people would change it.

nobodyinparticular · 04-25-2009, 02:03 PM

I think it will be a massive solar flare from the sun that will engulf the earth.

Or if you want to read Revelation literally, the Earth will pass through a massive asteroid storm which will kill 1/3 of the population of earth. These asteroids, burning up in the atmosphere will either cause chemicals or pathogens to be released into the atmosphere which will kill another 1/3 of the world's population.

Then in a fight for survival and remaining, uncontaminated resources, the peoples of the earth will draw lines in an epic World War III in which every country (except for Switzerland of course) will be involved.

Sound about right?

Paul · 04-25-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

I think it will be a massive solar flare from the sun that will engulf the earth.

Or if you want to read Revelation literally, the Earth will pass through a massive asteroid storm which will kill 1/3 of the population of earth. These asteroids, burning up in the atmosphere will either cause chemicals or pathogens to be released into the atmosphere which will kill another 1/3 of the world's population.

Then in a fight for survival and remaining, uncontaminated resources, the peoples of the earth will draw lines in an epic World War III in which every country (except for Switzerland of course) will be involved.

Sound about right?

Sounds like fun.