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Old 05-30-2010, 07:59 AM    (permalink
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uh... what?

kanye ******* sucks.

not to mention that even if i didn't have a low opinion of him, he'll never come close to biggie or 2pac.

kanye should be included in talk about decent rappers. he doesn't sniff greatest of all time.
It's funny that you say he sucks when both biggie and Pac suck too.
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I listened to this recently. Such a classic album. I still haven't listened to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2. How does it stack up compared to the original?

Not as good, but Rae still can make coke rap. Definitely worth the listen.
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It's funny that you say he sucks when both biggie and Pac suck too.
lawl another opinion of yours stated as fact, what else is new?
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lawl another opinion of yours stated as fact, what else is new?
How do you discern fact and opinion from one another?
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It's funny that you say he sucks when both biggie and Pac suck too.
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Jay Electrona is the best rapper in the world. What are you talking about Yay?
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He's certainly better than Wiz Khalifa xD.
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I'm pretty sure it was Camron who did it but Cormega put one out with Camron doing the same **** but with more recent rappers. I couldn't find it so I didn't post it. Either way their aren't many rappers in history that are better than Jay.

I say a big verse I'm only bigging up my brother/ bigging up my borough /I'm big enough to do it I'm that thorough /Plus I know my own flow is foolish.

I'm big enough to carry biggie smalls on my back and the whole BK ***** holla back.
Sorry but I don't see how he is overrated. Top 3 rapper of all time IMO


Jay-z might be the most overrated artist in any genre of music. He's the Carlos Mencia of hip-hop.
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lol. Carlos Mencia. That was funny.
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He's certainly better than Wiz Khalifa xD.
Of course not. Electrona is the best rapper dead or alive. Noone compares to you. Also, you should write for The Source or XXL since you are the expert of the rap genre. All our knowledge and opinions don't match up to your expert analysis of this specific subject. Sorry for ever doubting you, sir.
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People still read The Source or XXL? =O
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So what are your reasons for Biggie, Pac, and Wiz sucking? Do you have reasons or are you just spewing stupid **** for a shock response and some attention?
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Can we stop with the arguing about who sucks in rap because I could care less what others think about the music I like since its what I like not what other likes. Stick with posting vids of the new/favorite songs please!!!



IDK why it doesnt say its J-Diggs song cuz its on his album but this **** slaps
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So what are your reasons for Biggie, Pac, and Wiz sucking? Do you have reasons or are you just spewing stupid **** for a shock response and some attention?
Biggie-All flow and gun talk. Then went to rapping about hoes and life. Ok technical rapper, but only Juicy and WHo Shot Ya are truly great. He's overhyped and overrated by every rap fan.

Pac-All subject matter. Had no real technical rapping skill. Relied on hooks and great production

Wiz Calling him a rapper is an insult to rappers everywhere. Technically ineffective. Nothing about him even makes him worth a second listen to a track. Relies solely on hooks now. Prince of the City wasn't half bad though.
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Biggie-All flow and gun talk. Then went to rapping about hoes and life. Ok technical rapper, but only Juicy and WHo Shot Ya are truly great. He's overhyped and overrated by every rap fan.

Pac-All subject matter. Had no real technical rapping skill. Relied on hooks and great production

Wiz Calling him a rapper is an insult to rappers everywhere. Technically ineffective. Nothing about him even makes him worth a second listen to a track. Relies solely on hooks now. Prince of the City wasn't half bad though.
Biggie has impeccable flow. Don't know what you mean by technical rapper, Biggie and Pac were just products of their time. Innovators. I am not a huge Pac fan, but there is no denying that he was great. Wiz is a very entertaining rapper. I agree that he relies on hooks too much, but he is very entertaining.
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i honestly think you just say **** for the sake of getting a rise out of people.

i'll agree i was out of line putting tupac as one of the top rappers ever, though i love him personally, but biggie is one of the best rappers ever. his flow was so insane, and he made hits out of pretty lame beats.

regardless of your opinion on those two, calling kanye west one of the greatest of all time in just insulting to anyone who is a fan of rap. he's an annoying, arrogant pop star who can't make a hit without sampling somebody else's song.

wiz khalifa is hit or miss for me, some of his stuff is so sick, and i love his beats, but i don't think he raps the way he's capable of in every song. some of his songs i just change immediately, others i can listen to on repeat.

this is argument is even more pointless than the monta ellis one, though, because rap isn't based on statistics and is different for each individual, but please, never even call kanye a rapper again, because he's really not.

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it's been out for a while, but i ******* love lupe. one of the most underrated main stream rappers.

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I never said he is. I said he will start gettign the hype,which he will. 2 classic albums and 2 damn good ones. His discog stacks up with just about anyone minus Nas,Jigga, and Pac.
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Pac's delivery was Kobe Bryant like
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Lupe is the most underrated rapper out there in my opinion. I cannot wait for his new album. LOVE him.
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EvilNixon, I get the impression that you put very little value into delivery. How the rapper says something is almost as important as what he has to say. The emphasis on lines, the clarity, the voice and the passion and intensity all take the rapper to another level. Maybe I don't want to open this can of worms but that's why a lot of people are very meh on Jay Electronica. He is lyrically very good, has deeper subject matter, is a good technical rapper and has a nice flow. But his delivery and emphasis are bland. I know that's just my opinion but I feel others on here share that opinion and that's why we aren't as high on him as you are. Anyone can read lyrics off a piece of paper but that doesn't make a someone a great rapper no matter how good the lyrics are. There are some rappers who rely on all delivery but come up short in lyrically. Jay Electronica, is the other way around. I know you feel differently and I'm not going to judge your favorite rappers because it's all about what you like. But I'm just saying why me and other posters on here find your opinions on the best rappers very questionable.
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I never said he is. I said he will start gettign the hype,which he will. 2 classic albums and 2 damn good ones. His discog stacks up with just about anyone minus Nas,Jigga, and Pac.
wait, kanye has dropped four albums. his first two were good, he actually rapped. graduation was decent, he had two or three really catchy songs on that, but are you actually trying to say that 808's & Heartbreak was damn good or classic? that was actually one the worst albums i've ever listened to. i can respect you saying that his discography looks nice, but you said he'd be getting GOAT talk from you, which is ludicrous.

i don't dislike kanye, but i don't really consider him a rapper anymore, he's kind of a fusion of pop and hip hop, but after listening to power, it looks like he's going back to what he did early in his career. i actually don't think he ******* sucks, but i had to go hard with my argument because i thought you said he was one of the GOATs based on his music. i was also high as **** and it was almost insulting to me that you said that.

also, is there anyone else here who recognizes that asher roth is a legit rapper? he gets so much hate because i love college just makes him seem like a tool, but i love his flow.

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