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Old 04-26-2009, 02:17 PM    (permalink
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Tyson Jackson.

A surefire 1st rounder, but not third overall.

He'll never live up to the expectations that come with being drafted in that slot.
Good money, though.
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Stafford going to detriot and detriot insisting on leaving him out to dry. Jesus another first round bust because managment doesnt do their job. the only man who could survive with that OL is mike vick. Im tryuing to figure out which I hate worse Stafford or stafford having to play for the toothless lions
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Tyson Jackson at #3
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Objectively it is probably Jackson at #3, but to me Donald Brown to the Colts is a dumb pick. Our running game was bad because nobody could block for Addai, or Rhodes, or anybody. Walter Payton wouldn't have gotten 800 yards behind that line.

Brown looks like a marginally better version of Addai with less blocking ability. Dumb move.
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Honestly I kind of had them pegged for taking a rb but i thought it would be wells for amore pysical running back or shonn green in rd 2
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Knowshon Moreno at #12 and Tyson Jackson at #3 a close second.
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Worst first round pick to me is Aaron Maybin...bad fit with the Bills as a 4-3 OLB. He'll need to bulk up and play with that same speed, and he's still VERY raw. Personally, I hate college players with limited experience.
I'm pretty sure Maybin's going to play DE in Buffalo. Still, as a Bills fan, I was pretty upset with them passing on Orakpo for Maybin. I don't think it was the worst pick in the 1st round though. Aside from DHB, I'd say probably Larry English, Tyson Jackson, Knowshown Moreno, and Percy Harvin would have had me cringing if I were a fan of those teams.
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Honestly I kind of had them pegged for taking a rb but i thought it would be wells for amore pysical running back or shonn green in rd 2
Wells, Greene, or Jennings would;ve all been better IMO.
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Pettigrew!!!
Agreed. I dont think Pettigrew can protect stafford's blindside.
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It's not like they already had 469 running backs on their roster. They went out and got these guys. If they were targeting a RB (and no doubt they were targeting one because Moreno was a bit high at 12), why in the world would you pay 469 other guys to back him up?

IMO either criticize the Moreno pick, or criticize Denver's offseason signings.
Nice exaggeration there bucko. They sign 3 scrub RB's, and all of a sudden they have 469 RB's. It isn't like they shelled out $8 mil a year for each guy.
Name me one RB that Denver had that would be a starter on another team. Go ahead.
Peyton Hillis would be the only one worth mentioning at this point, and he has high question marks.
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Objectively it is probably Jackson at #3, but to me Donald Brown to the Colts is a dumb pick. Our running game was bad because nobody could block for Addai, or Rhodes, or anybody. Walter Payton wouldn't have gotten 800 yards behind that line.

Brown looks like a marginally better version of Addai with less blocking ability. Dumb move.
You sure?

I liked the pick. Its obvious we work off a running back committee. Our O-line will be healthy and those previous rookies will learn. Our O-line will be fine. Donald Brown and Addai is gonna be awesome. Donald Brown isn't to replace Addai just to complement him...
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Going down the list, picks that I deem stupid:

4. Aaron Curry - they won't be picking top ten again, unless Denver is worse than I think they will be. Go with Sanchez.

7. Darrius Heyward-Bey - though I don't hate it quite as much as everyone else. Still handled horribly.

11. Aaron Maybin - I just don't like him.

12. Knowshon Moreno - I thought/still think the Marshawn Lynch pick was stupid at the time, and I like Lynch a whole lot more than Moreno. They could have found a productive back in the second.

15. Brian Cushing - Not crazy about the player, and I don't think the position warrants a first round pick. Should have gone with Vontae Davis, IMO.

16. Larry English - Not horrible, but it was a reach for a guy who won't be as good as Everette Brown. I'd imagine they could have traded down to #21.

17. Josh Freeman - Probably going to bust.

21. Alex Mack - The pick itself was only a slight reach, and I like Mack almost as much as I like Eric Wood, but Mangini flunked the draft. He turned the #5 overall into a center and David Veikune.

26. Clay Matthews - For what they gave up, though the pick itself is fine.


I'm giving worst pick to Seattle. They got a little better at SLB and proved a point to Leroy Hill at the cost of a franchise QB.

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You sure?

I liked the pick. Its obvious we work off a running back committee. Our O-line will be healthy and those previous rookies will learn. Our O-line will be fine. Donald Brown and Addai is gonna be awesome. Donald Brown isn't to replace Addai just to complement him...
I like the committee approach because Addai isn't an every-down back. He needs another back to run with. I just don't understand why they took Brown with the #1, rather than Beanie Wells, or a similar type of runner later like Shonn Greene or Rashad Jennings.

IMO the OL was the problem more than Addai (Rhodes was healthy but had the same problems as Addai). Sure they should be better next year, but if they are better than a better value could've been had IMO.

Britton in the 1st and Jennings in the 6th makes a lot more sense to me. But we will see what happens.
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I like the committee approach because Addai isn't an every-down back. He needs another back to run with. I just don't understand why they took Brown with the #1, rather than Beanie Wells, or a similar type of runner later like Shonn Greene or Rashad Jennings.

IMO the OL was the problem more than Addai (Rhodes was healthy but had the same problems as Addai). Sure they should be better next year, but if they are better than a better value could've been had IMO.

Britton in the 1st and Jennings in the 6th makes a lot more sense to me. But we will see what happens.
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I trust him more today than I have in a while. I think some of the things the Colts were doing that drove me nuts were more Dungy than Polian.
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DHB and it should be unanimous.
He was a "reach", but he'll be better than Crabs...

With Michael Oher staring them in the face, I'm going with the Lions retardedly taking Pettigrew at #20.
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He was a "reach", but he'll be better than Crabs...

With Michael Oher staring them in the face, I'm going with the Lions retardedly taking Pettigrew at #20.
Any chance DHB had of being a better WR than Crabtree went out the window when he went to the Raiders. Sorry. But I don't think he had any chance anyway. Maybe much later in their careers.

I agree the Lions were stupid not to take Oher. Good luck not getting your new QB killed.
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It's not like they already had 469 running backs on their roster. They went out and got these guys. If they were targeting a RB (and no doubt they were targeting one because Moreno was a bit high at 12), why in the world would you pay 469 other guys to back him up?

IMO either criticize the Moreno pick, or criticize Denver's offseason signings.


Worst first round pick to me is Aaron Maybin...bad fit with the Bills as a 4-3 OLB. He'll need to bulk up and play with that same speed, and he's still VERY raw. Personally, I hate college players with limited experience.
ZOMGzzZ DEVER HAZ RUNING BAKZ

Yes, Denver has more than 2 running backs. It's not like they didn't sign a bunch of career backups. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them from last year let go (Torain and Young). When exactly do teams get attacked for having depth at any position. Let me guess...you were disappointed in the Jags grabbing Britton in the 2nd cause they already had two tackles?
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Josh Freeman seems like a great kid. Lots of physical tools. But never played that well at KSU. Didn't respond well to pressure. Made poor decisions. As a Big 12 fan I'm rooting for him. But I think he's got BUST written all over him.
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Jackson may not have been great value at #3 for Chiefs, but our defense was AWFUL last year. Pioli wants to move to 3-4. Our d-linemen could barely play the 4-3, and are not suited for the 3-4. Chiefs are hoping that he anchors our line the way Richard Seymour anchored the Pat's line for all these years.
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Jackson may not have been great value at #3 for Chiefs, but our defense was AWFUL last year. Pioli wants to move to 3-4. Our d-linemen could barely play the 4-3, and are not suited for the 3-4. Chiefs are hoping that he anchors our line the way Richard Seymour anchored the Pat's line for all these years.
Jackson was a reach, but the Chiefs were in an awful position. They had no need for a QB or LT so any player they took there would have been a reach.
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