2009/2010 Pittsburgh Steelers Discussion

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-28-2009, 07:53 PM

Now that everything from the 08/09 season has happened, I think we should start a new thread for the upcoming one.

To start off, I think that most of the guys we drafted have a good chance of making the 53 man roster. Here's a recap of the 53 guys we had when we won the Superbowl.

QB
Ben Roethlisberger
Byron Leftwich
Dennis Dixon

RB
Willie Parker
Mewelde Moore
Gary Russell

FB
Carey Davis

TE
Heath Miller
Matt Spaeth
Sean McHugh

WR
Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Nate Washington
Limas Sweed

OT
Max Starks
Willie Colon
Tony Hills
Jason Capizzi

OG
Chris Kemoeatu
Darnell Stapleton
Trai Essex
Jeremy Parquet

C
Justin Hartwig

DE
Aaron Smith
Brett Keisel
Travis Kirschke
Nick Eason
Oprheus Roye

DT
Casey Hampton
Chris Hoke
Scott Paxson

OLB
James Harrison
LaMarr Woodley
Andre Frazier
Bruce Davis

ILB
James Farrior
Larry Foote
Lawrence Timmons
Keyaron Fox
Patrick Bailey

CB
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
William ***
Deshea Townsend
Fernando Bryant
Anthony Madison

FS
Ryan Clark
Anthony Smith

SS
Troy Polamalu
Tyrone Carter

K
Jeff Reed

P
Mitch Berger

LS
Jared Retkosfky

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Now here's a list of all the players we have right now (including draft and UDFA's). Drafted rookies in Green, undrafted Red.

QB:
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon
Mike Reilly
Kevin McCabe

RB/FB:
Willie Parker
Rashard Mendenhall
Mewelde Moore
Justin Vincent
Stefan Logan
Frank Summers
Isaac Redman
Carey Davis
Sean McHugh
Ryan Powdrell

WR:
Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Limas Sweed
Dallas Baker
Martin Nance
Brandon Williams
Mike Wallace
Steven Black
Cedric Goodman
Tyler Grisham

TE:
Heath Miller
Matt Spaeth
Dezmond Sherrod
David Johnson

OT:
Max Starks
Willie Colon
Trai Essex
Tony Hills
Jason Capizzi
Ramon Foster

OG:
Chris Kemoeatu
Darnell Stapleton
Kraig Urbik

C:
Justin Hartwig
Doug Legursky
A.Q. Shipley

DE:
Aaron Smith
Brett Keisel
Travis Kirschke
Nick Eason
Jordan Reffett
Evander Hood
Ra'Shon Harris
Jeff Bradley

DT:
Casey Hampton
Chris Hoke
Scott Paxson
Steve McLendon

OLB:
James Harrison
LaMarr Woodley
Bruce Davis
Andre Frazier
Patrick Bailey
Arnold Harrison
Donovan Woods

ILB:
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
Larry Foote
Keyaron Fox
Tom Korte
Andrew Schantz

CB:
Ike Taylor
William ***
Deshea Townsend
Fernando Bryant
Anthony Madison
Roy Lewis
Keiwan Ratliff
Keenan Lewis
Joe Burnett

S:
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Tyrone Carter
Ryan Mundy
Derrick Richardson

K:
Jeff Reed

P:
Daniel Sepulveda

LS:
Greg Warren
Jared Retkofsky
Mark Estermeyer

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Out of those guys, I think the roster ends as follows:

QB: Roethlisberger - Batch - Dixon
RB: Parker - Mendenhall - Moore - Summers
FB: Davis
WR: Ward - Holmes - Sweed - Wallace
TE: Miller - Spaeth - McHugh
LT: Starks - Hills
LG: Kemoeatu - Essex
C: Hartwig - Shipley
RG: Urbik - Stapleton
RT: Colon - Capizzi

LE: Smith - Eason - Hood
RE: Keisel - Kirschke
NT: Hampton - Hoke
LOLB: Woodley - Davis - Frazier
ILB: Farrior - Timmons - Fox - Bailey
ROLB: J. Harrison - Davis - A. Harrison
CB: Taylor - G.ay - Townsend - Madison - Lewis - Burnett
FS: Clark - Mundy
SS: Polamalu - Carter

K: Reed
P: Sepulveda
LS: Warren

Practice Squad:
DE Ra'Shon Harris
TE David Johnson
QB Mike Reilly
RB Isaac Redman
WR Tyler Grisham
OT Ramon Foster
ILB Tom Korte
S Derrick Richardson

That's 53 players and 8 on the PS.

Those who don't make it are:
QB Kevin McCabe
RB Justin Vincent
RB Stefan Logan
FB Ryan Powdrell
WR Dallas Baker
WR Martin Nance
WR Brandon Williams
WR Steven Black
WR Cedric Goodman
TE Dezmond Sherrod
C Doug Legursky
DE Jordan Reffet
DE Jeff Bradley
DT Scott Paxson
DT Steve McLendon
OLB Donovan Woods
ILB Larry Foote
ILB Andrew Schantz
CB Fernando Bryant
CB Roy Lewis
CB Keiwan Ratliff
LS Jarek Retkofsky
LS Mark Estermeyer

That's 7 out of our 9 picks making the team, and the other 2 are on the PS.

mikehop05 · 04-28-2009, 08:48 PM

thats a pretty solid break down and pretty accurate i think

Pitt · 04-28-2009, 11:08 PM

You have all brand new guys on the Practice Squad...since when does that happen?

There is always a 2nd or 3rd year guy on there, because that is how the growing process works with these 7th rounders / UDFA's.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-29-2009, 05:22 PM

Evander Hood is going to be #96.

Hines · 04-29-2009, 07:31 PM

I hate you.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-29-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

I hate you.

Hate is a strong word. :D

And why, may I ask?

SCSteeler · 04-29-2009, 07:46 PM

who's Tyler Grisham?...and why is he on the PS and not Martin Nance? I thought M. Nance had a chance?

Hines · 04-29-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Hate is a strong word. :D

And why, may I ask?

You took the thread I was going to start before training camp started.

glennjamen3 · 04-29-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCSteeler

who's Tyler Grisham?...and why is he on the PS and not Martin Nance? I thought M. Nance had a chance?

I thought the coaching staff was pretty high on Baker too... I mean I guess they all can't make it though. It's so nice to see Sep back on there. And how do you think kick and punt returns shake out this year?

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-29-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCSteeler

who's Tyler Grisham?...and why is he on the PS and not Martin Nance? I thought M. Nance had a chance?

For the PS, I just put the guys who seem like the best UDFA's. Didn't really consider Nance and others, partially because they have some experience in the league and the newbies don't, giving them more time to develop. I guess that factor can work for or against them.

Quote:

And how do you think kick and punt returns shake out this year?

Compared to last year, I think we have much, MUCH, better returners in our team this year. Guys who can return are:

Mewelde Moore
Rashard Mendenhall
Santonio Holmes
Stefan Logan
Mike Wallace
Joe Burnett
Brandon Williams

Maybe some of the UDFA's.

I think that the best returners right now are:

Santonio Holmes
Stefan Logan
Mike Wallace
Joe Burnett

Holmes proved his talent in the post-season. Logan was a great returner in the CFL. Both Burnett and Wallace broke many records in NCAA.

In other words, the return game just got a good boost.

Mr. Stiller · 04-30-2009, 02:00 AM

Tyler Grisham is a scrawny White possession WR from Clemson, he was overshadowed by Jacoby Ford and Aaron Kelly, but the guy was one of the most clutch receivers..

Probably behind Nicks, Robiskie, Dillard.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-30-2009, 12:33 PM

We cut long snapper Jared Retkofsky. Now we have two guys, Greg Warren and UDFA Mark Estermyer.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/...f113410178.txt

Supposedly Estermyer is a "student of long snapping," who looks at a ton of film and is, as Scott put it, "the football equivalent of a gym rat."

His contract is half of what Warren earns, so do you guys think the team sacrifices experience for a little cap room?

mikehop05 · 04-30-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

We cut long snapper Jared Retkofsky. Now we have two guys, Greg Warren and UDFA Mark Estermyer.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/...f113410178.txt

Supposedly Estermyer is a "student of long snapping," who looks at a ton of film and is, as Scott put it, "the football equivalent of a gym rat."

His contract is half of what Warren earns, so do you guys think the team sacrifices experience for a little cap room?

it all depends on camp, if estermyer can perform just as well as warren, then we will use that cap room

if warren is still better, then i think we keep him

Hines · 04-30-2009, 02:04 PM

I am excited to see Hills play this training camp. I think if he performs well, he could be our RT after the upcoming season and we will let Colon walk. I read that he got bigger and stronger. That could really help our offensive line. Plus, Essex could play all five spots along the offensive line. How about we try him at C or RG?

Hines · 04-30-2009, 02:12 PM

We signed P Dirk Johnson, WR Shaun McDonald, Piotr Czech, along with Ratliff. Not Lelie, but I like McDonald.

Edit: Czech and Johnson will only be competition for Reed and Sepulveda. I don't think Ratliff makes the team after our moves at cornerback, and I hope we save a spot for Madison still.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-30-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

We signed P Dirk Johnson, WR Shaun McDonald, Piotr Czech, along with Ratliff. Not Lelie, but I like McDonald.

Edit: Czech and Johnson will only be competition for Reed and Sepulveda. I don't think Ratliff makes the team after our moves at cornerback, and I hope we save a spot for Madison still.

Where'd you read this? I'm looking for it but can't find it.

Yeah, out of those guys I think that McDonald is the most likely to stick with the team after the 53-man roster.

Ah, Kevin Colbert and his knack for finding solid players in former Lions.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-30-2009, 06:57 PM

The Broncos released RB Selvin Young.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

Should we take a look?

I know we already have four RB's that pretty much fill up every single role our team could have, but he's a good RB and would probably come cheap. And last year we also tried to sign Kevin Jones, already having Willie, Mendenhall, Moore, and Russell on our squad.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-30-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

We signed P Dirk Johnson, WR Shaun McDonald, Piotr Czech, along with Ratliff. Not Lelie, but I like McDonald.

Edit: Czech and Johnson will only be competition for Reed and Sepulveda. I don't think Ratliff makes the team after our moves at cornerback, and I hope we save a spot for Madison still.

Still haven't found anything on McDonald....

Strongside · 04-30-2009, 07:38 PM

We still won't have enough to sign all the rookies, and that includes cutting/trading Foote. More big-ish signings are unlikely.

Strongside · 04-30-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Still haven't found anything on McDonald....

http://www.examiner.com/x-2703-Pitts...eiver-McDonald

It was also on the official Steelers site, but now it's gone for some reason.

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-30-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Still haven't found anything on McDonald....

NVM, found this on BTSC:

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...haun?ref=yahoo

It says there we signed him. And it also has the video I told you guys about Mike Wallace and Keenan Lewis. The interview on ESPN2's First Take.

It also has an article where Ziggy Hood was asked if he believed that scouts where right when they said he needed more lower body strength.

Ziggy responded saying he can squat 720 freaking pounds.

Steelersfan4life · 04-30-2009, 07:52 PM

My family and I have a horse and it just gave birth to a boy, so we're naming it Ziggy :)

mikehop05 · 04-30-2009, 09:05 PM

idk if we did sign shaun, when clicking on the link to the steeler site, the link doesnt work

Mr. Goosemahn · 04-30-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steelersfan4life

My family and I have a horse and it just gave birth to a boy, so we're naming it Ziggy :)

Congrats and nice!

He's gonna be a strong, tough, and durable horse with a non-stop motor. :)

steel man · 04-30-2009, 10:05 PM

are we going to use this one now?