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Old 04-29-2009, 07:26 PM    (permalink
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What would our top three needs be? And who would we take in round one?

I'd probably say:
QB, DT, DE

I'd love to see us take any of the following, it obviously depends where we were drafting:

-Terrance Cody: Eventual replacement for Pat Williams. A giant space eater who would open things up for Kevin Williams and Jared Allen.

-Jevan Snead: At this point it looks like he will be the 2nd rated QB. I don't know if we will be picking high enough to land him though.

-Greg Hardy: A great defensive end who should be awesome opposite Jared Allen.

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I'd probably agree with you on the needs.
For players though I'd go with:
QB: Jevan Snead, but like you said I don't think we'll be picking high enough to take him, and right now I don't think there is another 1st round QB after him.
DT: I don't like Cody, to me he is nothing but a run stuffer, and while Pat doesn't offer much of a pass rush, in his prime, he was good at getting a push up the middle. I like guys like Suh, Oghobaase, and DeMarcus Granger. They ay not be 330 lb. run stuffers, but they are big, strong, and can still get after the QB and can be 3 down DTs, not just 2 down guys like Cody would be, or Pat is now.
DE: I'd say Everson Griffin from USC, Hardy like you said, Brandon Graham from Michigan, and Corey Wootton from Northwestern. I think all of those guys would be studs.

I'd rank the needs QB(depending on play this year), DT, and DE. After that, I wouldn't really know where to go. I suppose you could always say TE, CB if we somehow can't resign Winfield, and maybe OLB to upgrade Leber.

The good news is depending on which underclassmen come out, all of those positions could be loaded. At QB, after Bradford and Snead, you have Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen(underclassman), Jake Locker, and a guy I really like, Tony Pike. At DT, you have the guys I mentioned plus Gerald McCoy, Marvin Austin(NC), Allen Bailey(Miami(FL)*, etc. At DE, you have the guys I mentioned and Carlos Dunlap, plus a lot of guys like Selvie, Austin English, Greg Romeus(Pitt), Jeremy Beal(Okla), Ricky Sapp(Clemson), Greg Middleton(Indiana), etc.

If things go the way they should, next year is going to be a sick draft for defensive linemen. Overall, next year's draft should be really good. So far it looks weak at CB, RB, and to me there isn't a whole lot at OT, at least as far as studs go. I think there could be 5 or 6 OTs that could go in the 1st, but to me at least right now, I don't see anyone worthy of a top 5 pick, and only Okung imo would even be a top 10 pick right now.
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There should be a lot of great value across the board next year. QB is an obvious need, Pat is eventually going to need to be replaced, but I also think it's time to look for an LT. Doesn't have to be in the 1st, but McKinnie is getting a bit older, is always a suspension risk, and I think he's pretty average to begin with. We have a lot of good players who are getting a little older so we'll need to restock with some youth next year. We likely won't be picking high enough for a QB, so I'd say addressing both lines will take priority.
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A line of Carlos Dunlap, Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, Jared Allen would make me drool. There is just no way in hell we will be in position to take the man beast and if we were picking that high we would almost certainly go QB.
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If the 2010 draft was tomorrow..I'd wonder what the **** I did for the last year.
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I would say it depends on weather or not Winfield re signs with us and also how well Tyrell Johnson plays this year. DT and QB are for sures but I would also add CB and S.

Every year under Chilly we have alternated offense and defense with our 1st 2 picks so I would guess next year will be a DT and a DB with the 1st 2 picks.
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I love next years DT class I am glad they didn't use a premium pick on DT this year. I think the Vikings will be targeting a replacement for Pat Williams in the first next year.
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by the time i was done reading the thread name, colt mccoy popped in my head. he should be in the range we will be able to trade to from our 32nd over all pick
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by the time i was done reading the thread name, colt mccoy popped in my head. he should be in the range we will be able to trade to from our 32nd over all pick

Colt McCoy is a 2nd rounder at best. Also if Sage or Tjack lead us to a superbowl we wont be replacing them we'll be extending them.
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Jesus i hope RosenFAIL doesn't lead us to a superbowl. If he does then Tavaris Jackson seriously FAILS!
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I really don't care who leads us to a Superbowl; Favre, TJack, Rosefels, hell even Tebow. I just want SOMEONE to lead us there.
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I figured that I'd do a way too early 7 round Vikings mock draft, without any compensatory picks included. It may be terrible, but it is a mixture of my thoughts on where players should go and about where Walter Football has them projected to go, and our needs, so here it is(I'd have us picking about where we picked this year):

1. Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss

2. DeMarcus Granger DT Oklahoma

3. Rico McCoy OLB Tennessee

4. Garret Graham TE Wisconsin

5. Tony Pike QB Cincinnati

6. Cory Jackson FB Maryland

7. Garrett Anderson C South Carolina


Please rip it apart and tell me what you think. Just remember that this is almost a year in advance, and there have been no college football games this year, so a lot will change.
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I like it a lot. The nice thing about adding Harvin this year (assuming he stays in the league!) is that we pretty much have skill positions set. Peterson, Berrian and Harvin will be on this team for years to come. We can continue to look for a QB and just refine the defense and offensive line in this next draft.
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I like it a lot. The nice thing about adding Harvin this year (assuming he stays in the league!) is that we pretty much have skill positions set. Peterson, Berrian and Harvin will be on this team for years to come. We can continue to look for a QB and just refine the defense and offensive line in this next draft.
Yes, and if Rice can stay healthy and play up to his talent level, our skill position spots will be very good for many years. Now we just have to get ourselves a QB...
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Any mock with us getting Garrett Graham is ok by me Good job.
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Jesus Christ give me Colt McCoy. I won't even think about that.
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Haha. I somehow don't see us going with Colt unless Chilly is gone. I really think we go defense in the first round next year. I actually really like the direction this team is going, aside from QB issue. Our needs are being properly addressed and we have few Pro Bowl caliber players with plenty of years left (Peterson, Allen, Kevin, Hutch).
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Haha. I somehow don't see us going with Colt unless Chilly is gone. I really think we go defense in the first round next year. I actually really like the direction this team is going, aside from QB issue. Our needs are being properly addressed and we have few Pro Bowl caliber players with plenty of years left (Peterson, Allen, Kevin, Hutch).
You can definitely throw Greenway and Henderson into the mix there, and possibly even Madeiu Williams if he can stay healthy. When he's healthy, Madeiu is an excellent safety. Plus we've got Pat who has 1 or 2 more top years left in him, and Antoine Winfield who has I'd say 3 or 4 more great years left in him. I agree, I love where this team is headed. If only we could get a QB.... But like discussed in the other thread Campbell is set to be a free agent next year, and other good young QBs have been on the block recently, like Brady Quinn and Cutler was even traded, so franchise QBs can be acquired if you're willing to pay for them.
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I really like that mock. But holy defense. Lol. I think we should try to trade up and go for someone like McCoy or Snead though.
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I don't think much of McCoy as a pro prospect, and I don't expect us to be in a position to grab the Top QB's available in the draft next year so I think we'll have to look elsewhere. I'd be pretty excited about loading up on quality defensive prospects, but I'd also like to see another tackle thrown in the mix somewhere in the early to middle rounds. We could hedge our bets against McKinnie regressing/getting suspended and Loadholt potentially not panning out. Unless they feel Radovich is going to be a player I'd like to see some depth brought in. Overall though I like it at this point. :)
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Green Bay
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If Gb is picking somewher in the mid-late first(15-25) it could happen.

Lindleys Matchup vs Julio Jones in tuscaloosa will make or break his stock.
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If Gb is picking somewher in the mid-late first(15-25) it could happen.

Lindleys Matchup vs Julio Jones in tuscaloosa will make or break his stock.
Why are you posting that in the vikings thread?
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last year at this time, looking towards the next draft, I was saying the Vikes would be taking Malcolm Jenkins...unless we can lock up Winfield for another 2-4 years yet before next draft I think CB is a very likely 1st round pick for this team. The guys they have on the roster at DT (Evans especially) right now appear to be better starters at their position than the CB's do. But we'll see what we get out of Asher Allen this season.

Even if 'Toine gets the franchise tag, that's only one year, so looking ahead would still be a concern for this team.
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Haha that's what I was thinking...
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last year at this time, looking towards the next draft, I was saying the Vikes would be taking Malcolm Jenkins...unless we can lock up Winfield for another 2-4 years yet before next draft I think CB is a very likely 1st round pick for this team. The guys they have on the roster at DT (Evans especially) right now appear to be better starters at their position than the CB's do. But we'll see what we get out of Asher Allen this season.

Even if 'Toine gets the franchise tag, that's only one year, so looking ahead would still be a concern for this team.
Corner could be a top priority depending on Winfield's status, the development of Asher Allen and the play of Karl Paymah. I'm OK with our depth right now but if Winfield didn't get an extension and wasn't franchised we wouldn't really have a top guy. Even though Winfield is not a shutdown corner he's a playmaker and really helps out overall defense. Sadly though the CB class looks pretty weak right now for 2010, but a lot can change.
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