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And further proof the Redskin's FO is a league-wide joke. I wonder if this spells the end of Roth in Miami. If the Skins hadn't drafted Orakpo I would like to see Roth on the Skins. I think his best fit is a LDE in a 4-3 scheme.
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Roth is a pretty decent player, but I don't think he is too great a fit for OLB ina 3-4, but I do like him as an LE, in a 4-3, he seems very good in stopping the run and more than capable of providing a pass rush.
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Roth is a pretty decent player, but I don't think he is too great a fit for OLB ina 3-4, but I do like him as an LE, in a 4-3, he seems very good in stopping the run and more than capable of providing a pass rush.
He ripped apart the Chargers' O this year, I seriously doubt they give up on him because they signed 34 year old Jason Taylor.
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He ripped apart the Chargers' O this year, I seriously doubt they give up on him because they signed 34 year old Jason Taylor.
Well, I guess he ripped them apart, but not many other teams, he only had 5 sacks last year. If you can find his QB rushes and TFL, which I am too lazy to look for I'll give you this argument, but if there not that great then Matt Roth is nothing special and can be upgraded, 5 sack at OLB, is pretty mediocre.
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Great move for the Phins wasn't his best year in a 3-4?
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Remniscient of Denver getting a 3rd round comp pick for Ian Gold the same year they re-signed him.
Yeah...that was the best thing Gold ever did for denver.

I like the Taylor move a lot. Versatile guy that can add a whole dimension to the defense that already has Porter giving guys headaches. I had a hard time getting used to him not wearing a dolphins jersey.
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If Taylor can revert to old form and Porter plays like he did last year... well then Miami is going to have a scary pass rush.
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And further proof the Redskin's FO is a league-wide joke. I wonder if this spells the end of Roth in Miami. If the Skins hadn't drafted Orakpo I would like to see Roth on the Skins. I think his best fit is a LDE in a 4-3 scheme.
We'll trade you him for a 2nd rounder in return.
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Great move for the Phins wasn't his best year in a 3-4?
His best years was under Saban's defense which was a hybrid type scheme. He was a monster in it.

I'm glad to have JT back. I see him more as a situational type player for us rather then a starter. Roth is a good run stopper for us, but the dude lacks good pass rushing skills. So I would think the coaches will keep Roth in on running downs since that is his strength and put in JT on passing downs.
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And further proof the Redskin's FO is a league-wide joke. I wonder if this spells the end of Roth in Miami. If the Skins hadn't drafted Orakpo I would like to see Roth on the Skins. I think his best fit is a LDE in a 4-3 scheme.
Because everyone could see Taylor coming to Washington and getting hurt and being uesless playing hurt the entire year and then not wanting to practice in the offseason and being cut
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Because everyone could see Taylor coming to Washington and getting hurt and being uesless playing hurt the entire year and then not wanting to practice in the offseason and being cut
Its true though, I never expected much out of Taylor for the Skins anyway, even before TC last year. At that point in his career, it was obvious his best fit was as a 3-4 OLB and that he wouldn't hold up as well as a 4-3 End. They tried him some at LE IIRC, and that was a huge mistake, but mostly played RE I believe. Even there he isn't a great fit, but trying him at LE is just illogical, especially if he is dinged up already. With the handling of Taylor and Orakpo (being put at SAM), I truly wonder if anyone in the Redskins organization knows basic fits for Defensive Linemen.
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Its true though, I never expected much out of Taylor for the Skins anyway, even before TC last year. At that point in his career, it was obvious his best fit was as a 3-4 OLB and that he wouldn't hold up as well as a 4-3 End. They tried him some at LE IIRC, and that was a huge mistake, but mostly played RE I believe. Even there he isn't a great fit, but trying him at LE is just illogical, especially if he is dinged up already. With the handling of Taylor and Orakpo (being put at SAM), I truly wonder if anyone in the Redskins organization knows basic fits for Defensive Linemen.
Actually, all he played for us was LE
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Because everyone could see Taylor coming to Washington and getting hurt and being uesless playing hurt the entire year and then not wanting to practice in the offseason and being cut
I have no problem with releasing Taylor but trading for him and not using him correctly was the problem. I supported the trade when it was made but Blanche stuck him at LDE in a base 4-3 defense which is a complete misuse of his skills. Word was Blanche didn't want him and Snyder gave the order to get Taylor. No communication between coaching staff & FO = fail. And it was well known that Taylor skipped offseason practices to go "Dancing with the Stars" in 2008, so there was a definite risk that he may not attend off-season workouts in 2009.
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With the handling of Taylor and Orakpo (being put at SAM), I truly wonder if anyone in the Redskins organization knows basic fits for Defensive Linemen.
He hasnt even played a freaking snap in the NFL yet and he is being mishandled? Dude please! He worked at SAM for THREE DAYS! Its already been said that he will play DE on passing situations. If someone on our LB corps steps up and can fill in at SAM then he can play DE for three downs. Orakpo at SAM for 1st and 2nd down and DE on 3rd > Blades at SAM for 1st 2nd and 3rd down. BTW it worked out well for Merriman dont you think?

Also he is a rookie and Blache does not rely on them for major roles right away. Working him in is his style not throwing him there and depending on him to make or break. Phillip Daniels right now is better against the run then Orakpo because Orakpo has yet to play a down. Id rather have Daniels holding ground against Brandon Jacobs right now then Orakpo. With that said if Orakpo can show he is as good against the run as Daniels then moving him to DE full time is what will happen.
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He hasnt even played a freaking snap in the NFL yet and he is being mishandled? Dude please! He worked at SAM for THREE DAYS! Its already been said that he will play DE on passing situations. If someone on our LB corps steps up and can fill in at SAM then he can play DE for three downs. Orakpo at SAM for 1st and 2nd down and DE on 3rd > Blades at SAM for 1st 2nd and 3rd down. BTW it worked out well for Merriman dont you think?
It all depends how they use him, he is supposed to just be a rush backer so we will see how it goes, but how can he start at DE? There is no way he takes Carters spot and he aint no LE.
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