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Actually a baseball would probably be perfect. You'll get way more pressure using a baseball or lacrosse ball.
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Yeah the metal rod might be hard to use on yourself.

Without context this is a funny thing to say.
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Maybe if I use some kind of lubrication it will slide back and forth with more ease?
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May need to ask a friend to help put the right angle and pressure on it.
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Yeah it'll definitely feel better if a friend does it for sure.
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anybody here ever done calisthenics seriously? one of my buddies and i have been getting into it lately and i love it.
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i will break the legs of the next person i find doing curls or shrugs or anything other than squats in the squat rack.
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There is plenty you can do with a squat rack. Curls, no. But squats aren't the only use.
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I should take pictures of everytime the squat rack isn't used for squats. I can understand maybe deadlifts or even military presses, but the other day I saw these guys using the squat rack to do pull ups when there are 3 open pull up bars to their right. I wanted to throw a 10 pound dumbbell at them as they were doing it.
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There is plenty you can do with a squat rack. Curls, no. But squats aren't the only use.
there are other places you can do all of those things that don't prevent me from doing the only thing you can't do without a squat rack. you're being a prick if you use it for anything other than squats.
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I'm so lucky to be the only one using it at my gym.
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I started doing my deadlifts at the bench press area just taking the bar off of there and using it. I'd be lucky to get a squat in at my gym so I usually end up doing dumbbell squats because I hate waiting.
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there are other places you can do all of those things that don't prevent me from doing the only thing you can't do without a squat rack. you're being a prick if you use it for anything other than squats.
I think it is fine for OHP, but other than that I pretty much agree.
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I think it is fine for OHP, but other than that I pretty much agree.
meh. use dumbbells.

that said, i've never seen anyone use ours for overheads, so that's not really been an issue.
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meh. use dumbbells.

that said, i've never seen anyone use ours for overheads, so that's not really been an issue.
If you're not moving much weight, fine. But I'm not doing a heavy-ish hang clean right before a max effort set.
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If you're not moving much weight, fine. But I'm not doing a heavy-ish hang clean right before a max effort set.
i've certainly never seen anyone use it to press anything that was heavy enough to make a difference there. but fair enough. you're not a prick if you use the squat rack to press 200ish pounds.

i'll even allow for people doing cleans/deadlifts, if the benches nearby are in use, since there aren't very many other places with enough space.

but curls? shrugs? i'll kill your family.
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i've certainly never seen anyone use it to press anything that was heavy enough to make a difference there. but fair enough. you're not a prick if you use the squat rack to press 200ish pounds.

i'll even allow for people doing cleans/deadlifts, if the benches nearby are in use, since there aren't very many other places with enough space.

but curls? shrugs? i'll kill your family.
Yeah, I was strict-pushing 185 for my heavy set back in the day, so **** you if you're going to kick me out to probably squat less than that. But, I do 100% agree with the sentiment. I'm just cool with OHP as the only other acceptable workout.
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Back day's just been doing rack pulls, weighted pull ups, pull downs, and more isolation type exercises. Excited to do dead lifts tomorrow. Haven't dont traditional dead lifts for a couple months, before i stopped dead lifting for about a month more out of boredom I had been doing sumo. I think a lot of the isolation work I've been doing and 4 to 5 rep sets will help my deadlift. If I can do 275 5 or 6 reps I will be very happy.

BTW I'm feeling so good on the bench. All of the accessory work I've been doing with my triceps and shoulders has indirectly helped my bench a ton. I'm repping 315 about 3 1/2 reps, and even on my dropdown to 275 I'm doing 7-8 reps. I'm going to be starting cutting in a few weeks and honestly its not the diet that kills me. I get so busy during the week at work that honestly dieting isn't an issue, its the cardio thats killer. I'm going to try to do stair master 30 mins 3 days a week, and maybe screw around on the row machine or Jacobs ladder to try to keep things interesting. Unfortunately with my bad knees I can't run or play ball like I used to. Hopefully by summer time I will be fairly lean with my new built muscle. I'm trying to avoid major strength decreases on the cut.
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I've always been hesitant of doing deadlifts with regularity bc of my back injury, but I've decided I'm going to start doing it consistently starting today (as part of back day).

Any advice? If I'm squatting 190, what weight range should I start out with for dead lifts?
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Start with some light weight, something you're comfortable with and work on your form. I've seen a ton of people jerk using their back with heavy weights and that's how you **** up your back.
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Start with some light weight, something you're comfortable with and work on your form. I've seen a ton of people jerk using their back with heavy weights and that's how you **** up your back.
This is correct. Build up to it and when you feel form breaking down, even slightly, you've found your max.


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I've always been hesitant of doing deadlifts with regularity bc of my back injury, but I've decided I'm going to start doing it consistently starting today (as part of back day).

Any advice? If I'm squatting 190, what weight range should I start out with for dead lifts?
For most novices, their DL trends slightly above their squat. You can probably DL in the 200 range. That said, you squat in the smith machine and idk if you are counting that bar to to weigh anything....if you are, you shouldn't.
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Why doesn't the bar count?
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If you have back issues then start really light with deadlifts, as in spend the first few sessions doing a weight you barely even notice and get someone to make sure your form is good before building the weight gradually. No need to be a hero on them as they are one of the worst for injury if you do it wrong and one of the best for avoiding future back issues if done correctly because they are amazing for the stabilizing muscles.
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Because the bar has pretty much no weight on a smith machine. There is a reason you can move it with ease using just your pinky.
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Smith machine... haven't used one in years. Made me feel good about my bench press though.
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