Weight-Lifting Thread (General Fitness Thread) - Page 88

zachsaints52 · 03-09-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob S

Well, as long as you eat enough and don't lose muscle, your lifts won't drop too dramatically when you stop training. It's not an issue of natural strength at all in this case imo (although natural strength exists, Andy Bolton pulled 400 the first time he walked in a gym).....it's that you built up the strength and did nothing (ie: diet, lose weight) to lose that strength, so it stayed for the most part. The muscle memory stuff is important, but not as much for bench and deads. For oly lifts and squats, muscle memory is big though.

Im glad someone knows haha. Ive always wondered. I always get told I have perfect feet for deadlifting though.

Whose Andy Bolton?

Rob S · 03-09-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Im glad someone knows haha. Ive always wondered. I always get told I have perfect feet for deadlifting though.

Whose Andy Bolton?

Are you long and lanky? That seems to be the best bodytype for deadlifters (up to a point anyway....once you get over like 700, its just who is strongest I feel like).

Anyway, Andy Bolton is the best deadlifter in the world. Here is his pulling a WR 1003 lbs!

EDIT: He has actually lifted 1008 lbs since then. beast.

zachsaints52 · 03-09-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob S

Are you long and lanky? That seems to be the best bodytype for deadlifters (up to a point anyway....once you get over like 700, its just who is strongest I feel like).

Anyway, Andy Bolton is the best deadlifter in the world. Here is his pulling a WR 1003 lbs!

EDIT: He has actually lifted 1008 lbs since then. beast.

Nah, not lanky, just like a tree trunk. 5'11-6'1 ish. 9EEEE feet, which apparently wide feet is awesome because it gives a solid base.

And I love how the guys around him are talking trash, and he just raises his hands.

Rob S · 03-09-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Nah, not lanky, just like a tree trunk. 5'11-6'1 ish. 9EEEE feet, which apparently wide feet is awesome because it gives a solid base.

And I love how the guys around him are talking trash, and he just raises his hands.

I suppose the foot thing could have some credence. I feel like people with narrower feet could just point their toes out a little bit though and get the same effect.

zachsaints52 · 03-09-2012, 11:39 PM

Another thing Ive always wondered:
When you do should shrugs with dumbells, are you supposed to rotate your shoulders or just go up and down? Ive always rotated them around and I like my neck muscles, but Ive been told I do it wrong.

Rob S · 03-09-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Another thing Ive always wondered:
When you do should shrugs with dumbells, are you supposed to rotate your shoulders or just go up and down? Ive always rotated them around and I like my neck muscles, but Ive been told I do it wrong.

I don't do DB shrugs personally because they aren't heavy enough and I don't do high rep stuff, but I have seen them done both ways and I feel like both are fine. When that's the case though, I always lean towards what motion can be done with a heavier weight and that is likely a straight up and down.

zachsaints52 · 03-09-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob S

I don't do DB shrugs personally because they aren't heavy enough and I don't do high rep stuff, but I have seen them done both ways and I feel like both are fine. When that's the case though, I always lean towards what motion can be done with a heavier weight and that is likely a straight up and down.

I use the highest my college has (75 lbs) and do the circular. Call it what you want, ive had broken bones, herniated disc (still sucks) concussions, and all, but never knee or shoulders. I am very lucky.

Rob S · 03-09-2012, 11:49 PM

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I use the highest my college has (75 lbs) and do the circular. Call it what you want, ive had broken bones, herniated disc (still sucks) concussions, and all, but never knee or shoulders. I am very lucky.

I think thats fine. I'm sure you are doing high reps with those 75's though. Maybe try some barbell shrugs.....I'm sure you could crank out over 2 plates with no problem.

ATLDirtyBirds · 03-10-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zachsaints52

Another thing Ive always wondered:
When you do should shrugs with dumbells, are you supposed to rotate your shoulders or just go up and down? Ive always rotated them around and I like my neck muscles, but Ive been told I do it wrong.

I prefer straight up and down. I also like to try and hold it for an extra second or two and try and make my shoulders touch over my head. (If the angle continued, of course, I'm not some kind of genetic freak)

zachsaints52 · 03-10-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

I prefer straight up and down. I also like to try and hold it for an extra second or two and try and make my shoulders touch over my head. (If the angle continued, of course, I'm not some kind of genetic freak)

By my logic it just seems like rotating the shrugs would build up the muscle around the shoulder joints as well. If there is muscles there. As you can tell I learned nothing in HS or College personal wellness classes.

4000th post!

ATLDirtyBirds · 03-10-2012, 12:15 PM

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By my logic it just seems like rotating the shrugs would build up the muscle around the shoulder joints as well. If there is muscles there. As you can tell I learned nothing in HS or College personal wellness classes.

4000th post!

You can always just do a Military Press/Shoulder Press instead. Much better exercise overall.

zachsaints52 · 03-10-2012, 12:20 PM

I have some friends who are big into weightlifting (but just trying to get healthy, they arent body builders)

I may after break get with them to make me a workout plan and document it on here. Would be nice way of having others imput.

Rob S · 03-10-2012, 12:25 PM

I have been thinking about keeping a running training log here. I just don't know if enough people would be interested, especially considering I'm not lifting much nowadays and focusing on running/kickboxing.

draftguru151 · 03-10-2012, 12:28 PM

I'd probably read it if you're bored enough to post it haha.

zachsaints52 · 03-10-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob S

I have been thinking about keeping a running training log here. I just don't know if enough people would be interested, especially considering I'm not lifting much nowadays and focusing on running/kickboxing.

Just keep it on here, im sure me and ATL would enjoy knowing.

Rob S · 03-10-2012, 12:31 PM

I'll try to post my diet at least.....helps keep you honest. Today, I am cheating however, so it will be useless haha.

zachsaints52 · 03-10-2012, 12:33 PM

I dont have a diet. I cannot eat vegetables, at all. Unless you count runny mashed potatoes and pizza (yayyyyy) vegetables.

I normally try to limit myself in what I eat overall. For the most part I dont eat sweets or drink soda, which I feel helps me out.

Rob S · 03-10-2012, 12:34 PM

I remember having the diet discussion with you a week or so ago. Yeah, you dont eat great haha.

zachsaints52 · 03-10-2012, 12:37 PM

Its just growing up playing sports we never had sit down dinners. I never had to eat them, so I cant now. Ive tried a lot of different vegetables, I just cant do it.

But I have been eating oranges though.

Bulldogs · 03-10-2012, 12:55 PM

Been working out five days a week with my uni football team. Started out in January, never lifted before that. I was always afraid of the gym because I knew I couldn't lift much, but as long as you use proper form and keep at it the improvements will come.

Got my bench from 115x6 to 145x6 so far. My chest has probably been the weakest for me.

I was barely deadlifting 185x2 before. Now up to 245x2 fairly easily.

My squat was **** before too. I just wasn't used to that amount of weight on my shoulders before. I was at around 185x4, now I can get around 275x4.

I love working out now. It's really all just about getting in your comfort zone, as much as it sounds *** to admit it I was really embarrassed about lifting before because I felt like I did so little. Just get out there and work at it and you'll be better in no time.

/random contribution to weight lifting thread.

ATLDirtyBirds · 03-10-2012, 01:07 PM

I'd post my diet/log if anyone was interested. It'd be pretty monotonous now though as I'm trying for maintenance. However, in 2 months (when I'm back at home), I'll be going on a pretty crazy lifting challenge and eating like a monster to pack on 7-10 pounds in 3 months... that would be better.

ATLDirtyBirds · 03-10-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldogs

Been working out five days a week with my uni football team. Started out in January, never lifted before that. I was always afraid of the gym because I knew I couldn't lift much, but as long as you use proper form and keep at it the improvements will come.

Got my bench from 115x6 to 145x6 so far. My chest has probably been the weakest for me.

I was barely deadlifting 185x2 before. Now up to 245x2 fairly easily.

My squat was **** before too. I just wasn't used to that amount of weight on my shoulders before. I was at around 185x4, now I can get around 275x4.

I love working out now. It's really all just about getting in your comfort zone, as much as it sounds *** to admit it I was really embarrassed about lifting before because I felt like I did so little. Just get out there and work at it and you'll be better in no time.

/random contribution to weight lifting thread.

I love working out. I always just feel so much better after whether it be running or lifting. Plus, it allows me to still do some "competitive" (even if it is just pushing myself) now that I'm not playing sports anymore.

However, that part about your comfort zone better just be about confidence sir. Push yourself.