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Old 06-13-2009, 09:53 PM    (permalink
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Trading a 2nd and 4th round pick to Tampa Bay for Steve Young. Those 2 picks turned out to be LB Winston Moss and WR Bruce Hill. Neither played more than 4 years for Tampa Bay. Young went on to become a 1st-ballot HOFer, and arguably a top 10 QB of all time.

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The 49ers traded up for J.J. Stokes in the 1995 draft, giving up a future 1st rounder. That pick would turn out to be the 26th selection in 1996. No big deal, right? It just turned out to be Ray Lewis. Stokes went on to have many mediocre seasons and was released in 2002. Ray Lewis is a guaranteed Hall of Famer. Swing and a miss for the 49ers here.

What are some good/bad trades your team made both recently and historically?
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Tough one between trading Rick Mirer to the Bears for a 1st round pick, Galloway to the Cowboys for two f1st rounders or getting Largent from the Oilers for an 8th. But Im gonna go with the Largent trade because it netted the only HOF player in franchise history.

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Probably trading the 2nd pick in 1977 for three 2nd rounders to the Cowboys who got Tony Dorsett. Or trading a first for Deion Branch.
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Best: I cant think of any at the moment...Probably trading to get Fran Tarkenton back with the vikings.

Worst: The Herschel Walker Trade

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The Vikings would make what would be considered its biggest personnel blunder in team history. On October 12, 1989, the Vikings acquired Herschel Walker from Dallas. The final result of the trade gave the Vikings Walker, third-round choice Mike Jones, fifth-round choice Reggie Thornton and tenth-round choice Pat Newman in 1990 and a third-round choice in 1991 Jake Reed, while Dallas received Issiac Holt, David Howard, Darrin Nelson, Jesse Solomon, Alex Stewart, a 1st, 2nd and 6th-round choice in 1990, 1st and 2nd-round choices in 1991 and a 1st, 2nd and 3rd-round choice in 1992. Two of those selections turned into Emmitt Smith and Darren Woodson. Herschel's performance fell short of expectations in his three seasons with the Vikings, while the Cowboys rode their draft picks to three Super Bowl victories in the early to mid 1990s.
Randy Moss trade was also pretty bad.
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You can't judge trading draft picks based on who was selected. There's no way of knowing that the 49ers would have picked Ray Lewis like the Ravens did. They didn't trade Ray Lewis for JJ Stokes, they traded the 26th pick for JJ Stokes. Huge difference. Had that trade not happend it'd be more likely that the 49ers would have Alex Van Dyke.
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Best for the Packers would be trading for Brett Favre. It cost a first round pick, but for 16 years of a hall of fame QB that's a damn good deal.

I'm drawing a blank on bad trades. I know we've got some, but I can't think of any at the moment.
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Worst- The combination of the Cutler trade and then trading our own first round pick(almost guaranteed to be a better pick than Chicago's, probably top 10) for #37. Nope, we couldn't just write into the trade that they got our worse pick, had to be our own.

Best- Elway, probably, although I don't know the stuff involved with that.

Also, the Portis-Bailey trade is probably the only trade I can think of where both teams were very happy with what they got. Although I do miss CP


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Packers' worst trade ever

The Packers acquired QB John Hadl for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder in 1975 and a 1st and 3rd rounder in 1976. Hadl started 19 games as a Packer and tallied 9 TDs and 29 INTs.
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The Packers acquired QB John Hadl for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder in 1975 and a 1st and 3rd rounder in 1976. Hadl started 19 games as a Packer and tallied 9 TDs and 29 INTs.
Ah yeah, there we go. What makes it even worse is he was benched before all that was given up for him.
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Alright the Tennessee Titans short history

Best trade:
Traded for Kevin Carter from the St. Louis Rams. Became a stalwart on our defensive line for many years

Worst trade:
Traded Steve McNair to the Baltimore Ravens for a 4th round pick. Was the heart and soul of our team, and this deal basically finished off the old regime. And to a rival no less!
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Best: Herschel Walker Trade Obviously.

Worst: Between the Joey Galloway trade (two 1st) or trading down in 2004 when SJax was fell into our laps. But JJ was somewhat solid while he was here and we're doing okay at RB now, so I'm going to go with the Joey Galloway trade.
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I'll just do Indianapolis Colts franchise history:

Worst: The Colts essentially traded Marshall Faulk for Mike Peterson and Brad Scioli when they traded him for the Rams 2nd and 5th round picks. While Peterson and Scioli weren't bad players, Marshall Faulk is a future Hall of Famer.

Best: 2nd round pick for Booger McFarland. Championship.
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Worst: The Colts essentially traded Marshall Faulk for Mike Peterson and Brad Scioli when they traded him for the Rams 2nd and 5th round picks. While Peterson and Scioli weren't bad players, Marshall Faulk is a future Hall of Famer.

Best: 2nd round pick for Booger McFarland. Championship.
Eh I dont know if Trading Marshal Faulk was all that bad. Colts ended up drafting Edge and he led the league in rushing yards in 99 and 2000. Not to mention he holds the colts career touchdown and rushing records.
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Best: Not really sure to be honest, too tired now but I'm sure I can think of something.

Worst: Not making the freaking Ricky Williams trade... Instead of just loading up on draft picks we of course, took the incredible Akili Smith who spent a few years running for his life and hasn't been heard of since.
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I really can't come up with a worse trade. Edge didn't come from the Faulk trade, he came from the Colts being Top 5 pick bad in 1998, so when you consider the return on the trade alone, it's a bad trade.
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Best - Roy Williams/7th Rounder to the Cowboys for a 1st/3rd/6th

Worst - The only one that sticks out to me is Dre Bly to the Broncos for Tatum Bell and George Foster.
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Worst: Between the Joey Galloway trade (two 1st) or trading down in 2004 when SJax was fell into our laps. But JJ was somewhat solid while he was here and we're doing okay at RB now, so I'm going to go with the Joey Galloway trade.
The Joey Galloway trade is far and away the worst trade Dallas has ever made. Parcells made up for passing on SJax with making a Pro Bowl RB out of a 4th round pick, but the Galloway trade just absolutely crippled the franchise. The guy that was supposed to be the savior of the WR position for us never had more than 908 yards, after tearing his ACL his first season with the team.
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Up there for the Patriots has to be Randy Moss for a 4th round pick and a 1st round pick for Deion Branch. Oh and Bill Belichick for a 1st round pick as well.

Not really sure about worst trades although trading up for Chad Jackson when Greg Jennings was still on the board kinda hurts
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ummm

too many bad ones


Trading a 1st for Rob Johnson
Trading a 1st for Drew Bledsoe
Trading next years 1st to trade up and get JP Losman
Jason Peters for a Late 1st round pick?

kill me?


best?

out of our most recent trades....

Willis McGahee two 3rds and a 5th
out of those picks we got Marcus Stroud and Trent Edwards
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Steelers best trade has to be getting Jerome Bettis from the Rams in 96.

I can't really think of a worst one. We don't trade players very often.
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Worst: Between the Joey Galloway trade (two 1st) or trading down in 2004 when SJax was fell into our laps. But JJ was somewhat solid while he was here and we're doing okay at RB now, so I'm going to go with the Joey Galloway trade.
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What these two said. What sucks more is that Galloway was supposed to make up for Irvin's retirement, and passing on Moss.
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Trading Rob Johnson to Buffalo for a 1st rd. pick= Fred Taylor
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Trading a 2nd and 4th round pick to Tampa Bay for Steve Young. Those 2 picks turned out to be LB Winston Moss and WR Bruce Hill. Neither played more than 4 years for Tampa Bay. Young went on to become a 1st-ballot HOFer, and arguably a top 10 QB of all time.

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The 49ers traded up for J.J. Stokes in the 1995 draft, giving up a future 1st rounder. That pick would turn out to be the 26th selection in 1996. No big deal, right? It just turned out to be Ray Lewis. Stokes went on to have many mediocre seasons and was released in 2002. Ray Lewis is a guaranteed Hall of Famer. Swing and a miss for the 49ers here.
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You can't judge trading draft picks based on who was selected. There's no way of knowing that the 49ers would have picked Ray Lewis like the Ravens did. They didn't trade Ray Lewis for JJ Stokes, they traded the 26th pick for JJ Stokes. Huge difference. Had that trade not happend it'd be more likely that the 49ers would have Alex Van Dyke.
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Also, JJ Stokes actually had a hell of a career. 49er fans expected the next Jerry Rice, those expectations were ridiculous. He's a top-10 All-Time receiver for the team, all while being a 4th or 5th option most of the time. If a 1st round pick turns out to be one of the 10 most productive players at their position in the history of their team, I think you can consider that a success.

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Trading Terrell Owens to the Philadelphia Eagles for Brandon Whiting
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Also, JJ Stokes actually had a hell of a career. 49er fans expected the next Jerry Rice, those expectations were ridiculous. He's a top-10 All-Time receiver for the team, all while being a 4th or 5th option most of the time. If a 1st round pick turns out to be one of the 10 most productive players at their position in the history of their team, I think you can consider that a success.

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Trading Terrell Owens to the Philadelphia Eagles for Brandon Whiting
He was an ok player, but he was a top 10 pick and we gave up another 1st rounder on top of that. He wasn't Rashaun Woods but for 2 1st round picks, he just wasn't worth what we gave up for him, making it a bad trade IMO. Had a hard time thinking about worse trades than that, but Owens was horrific. Forgot about that one.

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Packers' worst trade ever

The Packers acquired QB John Hadl for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder in 1975 and a 1st and 3rd rounder in 1976. Hadl started 19 games as a Packer and tallied 9 TDs and 29 INTs.
not worse trading our long snapper, guaranteed first ballot hall of famer JJ Jansen to the Panthers for a conditional seventh rounder!
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Best: 1st round pick from Robb Johnson, which was used to get Fred Taylor.

Worst: hmm...dunno if there's been any bad trades in Jaguars history. Bad FA moves, yes, but I can't think of anything.
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