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07-29-2009, 08:08 PM
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Does that mean Matt Ryan is a top 10 QB or Redman/Harrington/Leftwich are f*cking terrible? The pieces were in place for the Falcons to succeed.
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I beg to differ on the whole "succeed" part of your statement. I don't know anyone who thought the Falcons were going to be anything more then terrible last year.
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07-29-2009, 08:52 PM
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Why would Urlacher even tell this to Bobby Wade?
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didnt he say the same thing last year about one of his qbs?
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07-29-2009, 10:14 PM
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joe flacco=shaun king in 99
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07-29-2009, 11:33 PM
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Who the **** is Bobby Wade and who gives a **** what he say or who believes the **** he says. Urlacher wouldn't say this.
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07-29-2009, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TitleTown088
Welll.... he is.
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It's amazing how much we agree on these days, considering we used to hate each other.
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07-29-2009, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yodachu
Urlacher wouldn't say this.
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Even if he did, what's Cutler going to do about it? Cry like a little ***** again so he can get his way?
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07-29-2009, 11:36 PM
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It's amazing how much we agree on these days, considering we used to hate each other.
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The Yodachu counseling sessions are a great success. Very happy to say.
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07-30-2009, 12:03 AM
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This story makes me laugh....a lot.
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07-30-2009, 12:30 AM
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Even if he did, what's Cutler going to do about it? Cry like a little ***** again so he can get his way?
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Yeah, probably. He's a gunslinger.
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07-30-2009, 01:28 AM
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Yeah, probably. He's a gunslinger.
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Haha, I dont know why but this made me laugh aloud.
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07-30-2009, 02:58 AM
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Even if Urlacher did say it, it doesn't matter. I'm sure there are plenty of veterans who think their QB is a p****.
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07-30-2009, 03:08 AM
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I lol at RoP ranking Michael Vick #17
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07-30-2009, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlindSite
I honestly don't know how more broncos fans haven't dumped the team. The more I think about how I'd feel if I lost Jay Cutler as good as he is for as young as he is, hell I'd probably become a chargers fan.
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So because once in a very long while the Broncos have had a rough off-season the fans should just move on to the the "flavor of the month" team in the chargers?
We lost a decent QB with a lot of potential who could have reacted in a lot better manner than to cry his way out. It sucks, but you think we're just going to drop our team because we lost player that's never even lead a team to a winning record in the NFL? I'm a fan of a whole team, not of just one player. I'm sure that if we have a really tough season, the fans will be all over the ownership and McDaniels, but at this point we're just going to wait and hope for a decent season.
I'm sure glad you're not a part of our fan base, because like you said you'd be a chargers fan by this point
Being a fan is about more than one rough off-season. Ask the lions fans. If any fans have an excuse to root for a different team it'd be them, but yet there are a ton that are still loyal die hard fans.
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07-30-2009, 05:55 AM
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i think by dumping he meant to oppose to the decisions they made not to abbandon the team
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07-30-2009, 06:38 AM
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Urlacher should throw Cutler in Lake Michigan.
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07-30-2009, 09:06 AM
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I don't get why people go after Cutler like they do. He demanded a trade, big deal, many people do. McDaniels has been shown to be an idiot. What is the big deal? His reason for demanding the trade is not really important, as demanding a trade is demanding a trade. People like to jump all over him now. Seems like the fun thing to do.
It doesn't matter what Urlacher 'may' have said. Wade isn't a reliable source. People on the same team often don't care for one another, but so long as they are in line with the same goal, you play with them to achieve it. Everyone who's played a sport has disliked someone they played with....it doesn't change anything. Whether this is true or not doesn't make a difference really....but if Bobby Wade said it......it must be a big deal
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07-30-2009, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma
I don't get why people go after Cutler like they do. He demanded a trade, big deal, many people do. McDaniels has been shown to be an idiot. What is the big deal? His reason for demanding the trade is not really important, as demanding a trade is demanding a trade. People like to jump all over him now. Seems like the fun thing to do.
It doesn't matter what Urlacher 'may' have said. Wade isn't a reliable source. People on the same team often don't care for one another, but so long as they are in line with the same goal, you play with them to achieve it. Everyone who's played a sport has disliked someone they played with....it doesn't change anything. Whether this is true or not doesn't make a difference really....but if Bobby Wade said it......it must be a big deal
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ITS BOBBY WADE!
buy yea i dont get it. but i think thats when you know when it is offseason. when something bobby wade says brian urlacher said becomes a big deal
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07-30-2009, 11:58 AM
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During the 1985 season, star veteran DE Richard Dent hated gunslinging, party-boy QB Jim McMahon with a passion, wouldn't talk to him, and openly displayed his negative feelings for the QB.
Just saying...
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07-30-2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RavenOfProphecy
And you don't think any of that was due to Matt Ryan being a vast improvement over Redman/Harrington/Leftwich?
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Don't worry, the other poster has no idea what he is talking about.
Matt Ryan was excellent last season, and definitely contributed to Michael Turner's huge season. Great leader as well.
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07-30-2009, 12:44 PM
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Welll.... he is.
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Yeah, this surprises people? He pretty much cried himself out of Denver...
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07-30-2009, 12:56 PM
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He may whine, but he also looks like if he's angry, he'll stomp your throat.
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he looks like the biggest douche in the league without a helmet on.
CORRECTION: he looks like the 2nd biggest douche in the league without a helmet on, first has got to go to E. Manning
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07-30-2009, 12:59 PM
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Every quarterback is a *****.
Brett Favre was billed as some hardass cowboy and it turns out he cries to the media everytime his vagina hurts.
This is such a non-story. True or not.
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07-30-2009, 01:01 PM
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This story makes me laugh....a lot.
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I'm glad you have a sense of humor. You'll need it everytime Orton tries to throw a pass longer than 8 yards.
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07-30-2009, 02:33 PM
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I lol at RoP ranking Michael Vick #17
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How come? Vick's not nearly as bad as people think. They just have trouble separating public opinion of his throwing ability and their own bias due to the dog-fighting thing from his actual ability as a quarterback. The purpose of the quarterback is to lead the team downfield and score. Vick might not be the most accurate passer, but to be fair we've never really seen much of him in an offense that's designed to take advantage of his strengths. In his last year in the league, Vick combined for over 3,500 yards passing and running, with 22 TDs. His completion percentage is a little low but he didn't play with the current Roddy White, he played with the awful young Roddy White, who dropped a lot of passes, and not much else. Michael Jenkins? Really? Vick was 40-30-1 as a starter (incl. playoffs), and even went to the NFC Championship. Do you think the Falcons really would have been as good as they were back then without Vick? I sure don't. Do you think they would have had the #3 pick in the draft if Vick hadn't been arrested and instead had started for that team instead of Harrington/Leftwich? I sure don't.
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07-30-2009, 02:38 PM
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How come? Vick's not nearly as bad as people think. They just have trouble separating public opinion of his throwing ability and their own bias due to the dog-fighting thing from his actual ability as a quarterback. The purpose of the quarterback is to lead the team downfield and score. Vick might not be the most accurate passer, but to be fair we've never really seen much of him in an offense that's designed to take advantage of his strengths. In his last year in the league, Vick combined for over 3,500 yards passing and running, with 22 TDs. His completion percentage is a little low but he didn't play with the current Roddy White, he played with the awful young Roddy White, who dropped a lot of passes, and not much else. Michael Jenkins? Really? Vick was 40-30-1 as a starter (incl. playoffs), and even went to the NFC Championship. Do you think the Falcons really would have been as good as they were back then without Vick? I sure don't. Do you think they would have had the #3 pick in the draft if Vick hadn't been arrested and instead had started for that team instead of Harrington/Leftwich? I sure don't.
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fact is that id take a QB like Hasselbeck and Flacco or even Campbell before Id take a QB that has been 2 years out of the league. if he shows that he is good again, then maybe, to rank him there right now is dumb.
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