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Old 08-06-2009, 01:42 PM    (permalink
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:46 PM    (permalink
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C'mon Mike. You were one of my favorite players in the draft but you got to be realistic. You're not getting Top 5 money and your not getting more the DHB. Just because you think you're better than players above you doesn't mean you should get paid more. Get on the field and prove you should be paid like a Top 5 player.
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The niners developing a case of the Crabs.
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he shoots and its NO GOOD!!!!

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Parker is also representing Tyson Jackson, and is demanding Matt Ryan money.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:12 PM    (permalink
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Is there any compensation for a team that drafted a player refusing to sign and re-entering the draft?
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:26 PM    (permalink
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You gotta feel bad for the agent, I'm sure he's beyond PO'd right now. Just said he doesn't like his negotiations to go public and here it is plastered all over SportsCenter. The cousin needs to shut his mouth and let the agent take care of things.
Assuming it is the agent that is asking for Top 3 money, then screw him. You don't get Top 3 money when you're the 10th overall pick and you're not even a quarterback to ask for a premium. **** anyone that stupid.

But hey, maybe he's asking for a reasonable contract and the 49ers are lowballing him. I doubt it, but we don't truly know.

Part of me actually hopes that the Crabtree camp does hold out for next year's Draft, because he will lose so many millions if he does so as I doubt he would even be a Top 20 draft pick next year. Just to teach some of these players and agents a lesson they need to learn. It's bad enough the Top 15 draft picks are so overpaid.

And some of these kids need to understand that if the agent isn't working in the player's best interest, instead trying to get the best deal that he can show clients in the future, then the kid should get a different agent and not have a finite and always-tenuous pro career screwed with at the start.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:40 PM    (permalink
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I haven't heard what the agent is asking, however I think either way... He didn't want any of this to become public. It just puts more pressure on the situation and everyone sides with the 49ers on this one. It does seem like Crabtree and his entire camp lack any concept of slotting rookie picks. From the way things are looking, I'd say Maybin and Monroe have to sign first to see any movement. We all know he'll end up signing but it looks like Crabtree will be the early favorite for longest holdout.

The thing for agents though is like you said... Say the guy you're representing wants to just go ahead and sign for the same as the guy a slot below him to get things over with. Next Spring when the incoming draft class is trying to find representation, all the other agents are going to use when recruiting against this agent would be that he only got the guy a deal equal to the slot below him. They're going to assure the client they can get them the most money. While I have no doubt agents only act in their own interests, they have to really in order to survive. Otherwise their clients stop pouring in.

If a player wants to avoid the whole agent issue and just get signed, they really need to just get a lawyer to analyze the contract. If you want to sign for less than market value, there's no use in even signing an agent because for a rookie contract they simply MUST get top value.
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I haven't heard what the agent is asking, however I think either way... He didn't want any of this to become public
Eugene Parker has not made any offer.

This is from Matt Barrows, a Niners beat writer:
"Crabtree has NOT threatened to hold out the whole season, according to the team. Though his adviser, according to ESPN, says he is"

another beat writer, Matt Maiocco:
"Michael Crabtree's agent, Eugene Parker, has not verbally threatened 49ers with a holdout for the entire season, a well-placed source said."
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But hey, maybe he's asking for a reasonable contract and the 49ers are lowballing him. I doubt it, but we don't truly know.
I bet the agent wouldn't mind going public with the situation if that was truly the case.
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Eugene Parker has not made any offer.

This is from Matt Barrows, a Niners beat writer:
"Crabtree has NOT threatened to hold out the whole season, according to the team. Though his adviser, according to ESPN, says he is"

another beat writer, Matt Maiocco:
"Michael Crabtree's agent, Eugene Parker, has not verbally threatened 49ers with a holdout for the entire season, a well-placed source said."
If true, then the adviser is a flippin' idiot who has weakened the position of the person he is advising.
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anyone who holds out in the nfl can just **** off

'oh no im worth way more than $20 million, i need that extra $10 mil guaranteed so i can buy seven more cars'
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Well, no one wants the draft pick to hold out for a year. That's bad for both sides.
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Well lets remember that we haven't actually heard Crabtree say anything this is all his agent, and trainer. I would really like to hear how he feels about this.
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If I was Crabtree right now, I would beg the 49ers to put there best offer on the table right now, sign it and move on. How unaware of the climate in the league is this guy? The day of the me first diva is over! He's got to realize that right now, Pac Man Jones is out of the league, a new team says the don't want Vick every day, nobody wants to trade for Brandon Marshall or Braylon Edwards, T.O. is on his fourth team now on a one year deal. Teams are fed up with these kinds of attitudes and they are not willing to pander to egos any more. They are delusional if they think they're going to get the 49ers to blink on this.
T.O. actually made money by being cut, and I guarantee if Braylon Edwards was on the market he'd see lots of money too.

Teams don't want to give up draft picks for guys they can sign in a year. That's the way it's been for years. There has been nothing to indicate so far this year that owners are tightening their wallets for top 10 picks.
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wow.

if the niners cave i'll smack them.

i bet samurai is gonna do the same.
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I hope he doesn't have one of those "My uncle is my agent" sort of deals.

This is a very stupid and inexperienced stance to take by the agent. You'd think he could explain the situation correctly to Michael before coming out like this...
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personally, i think it's the agent ******* up and not crabtree.
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also from Niners beat writer Matt Maiocco:

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Crabtree's cousin and adviser, David Wells, told ESPN that the 49ers' first-round selection is prepared to sit out the entire season and re-enter next year's draft. Yeah . . . What did you expect anyone from the Crabtree camp to say? It would be the worst "holdout" ever if they stated publicly that they're not committed to making it a long holdout. Isn't the whole implied notion of a holdout to show no signs of reporting until you reach the deal for which you're holding out? Today's Crabtree story is really a non-story. Plus, a 49ers source tells me his agent, Eugene Parker, has never made any such threat to the team.
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The NFL really needs a rookie pay scale because this kind of stuff hurts everyone involved. I'm not going to jump all over Crabtree because you hire an agent to handle this kind of stuff, but even still he has to have some kind of say so in the matter. And even mentioning holding out for the season is a big red flag.
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Yawn.

A non-issue to me. He'll sign.
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