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Old 08-25-2009, 01:54 AM    (permalink
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seriously why does he want more money than where he was picked? Do you think you really deserve top 5 money, even though you were picked 10th? You were picked where u were picked.

Who else is unsigned?
Andre Smith, Crabtree, Aaron Maybin

When was the last time it took this long to sign all of the rookies, or that this many sat our for this long?

Russell hold the record right?
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Maybin signed last week.. It's down to Andre Smith and Michael Crabtree.
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Bush tried to play the Saints for a while for #1 money.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:42 AM    (permalink
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He's trying to play us for #3 money or something like that.



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Old 08-25-2009, 10:51 AM    (permalink
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I think he just won't settle for any less than DHB got...which sort of makes sense because nobody in football except Al Davis thinks DHB is a better receiver than Crabs.
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I think he just won't settle for any less than DHB got...which sort of makes sense because nobody in football except Al Davis thinks DHB is a better receiver than Crabs.
That doesn't matter, its he say. Reality is that Crabtree was taken 10th overall, if he doesn't like it then he can always go play for dimes somewhere else.

It should be a rule if a rookie doesn't join his team before the start of the first preseason game then they get fined by the team.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:14 AM    (permalink
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**** Crabtree. I'm so sick of this bastard. The team has a standing offer that is 18% over what the previous #10 pick got last year. This slots him directly between the #9 and #11 picks this year. That is a fair offer. And he'll eventually sign it. And he'll instantly become a 10-digit millionaire. And he's essentially thrown away his rookie season. And he essentially will get all this money for nothing this year. So ... yeah ... **** Crabtree.
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I think he just won't settle for any less than DHB got...which sort of makes sense because nobody in football except Al Davis thinks DHB is a better receiver than Crabs.
it makes no kind of sense. he got picked #10 and should get paid more than #9 and less than #11. it's just that simple. whether he thinks he's the best player in the draft.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:30 AM    (permalink
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it makes no kind of sense. he got picked #10 and should get paid more than #9 and less than #11. it's just that simple. whether he thinks he's the best player in the draft.
I'm sure you meant less than the #9 and more than the #11 ;)
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I'm sure you meant less than the #9 and more than the #11 ;)
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it makes no kind of sense. he got picked #10 and should get paid more than #9 and less than #11. it's just that simple. whether he thinks he's the best player in the draft.
That's what his agent is arguing. He's trying to break the slotting system because I'm sure that the 49ers management have told him that he was the top guy on their board, and most everybody in, associated with, or even following the NFL thinks that Crabtree is better than Hayward Bey. Crabtree's teams position is if you think I'm better than this guy, pay me more than him. They're saying that just because a team that happened to be picking ahead of you didn't pick me, doesn't mean that I'm a less valuable player.
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That's what his agent is arguing. He's trying to break the slotting system because I'm sure that the 49ers management have told him that he was the top guy on their board, and most everybody in, associated with, or even following the NFL thinks that Crabtree is better than Hayward Bey. Crabtree's teams position is if you think I'm better than this guy, pay me more than him. They're saying that just because a team that happened to be picking ahead of you didn't pick me, doesn't mean that I'm a less valuable player.
Bush did too. Saints Big Board that year was I believe

Reggie Bush
AJ Hawk
Mario Williams

Charley Casserley gave us a give and picked Mario. Bush wanted #1 money because he was #1 on our board but he got picked 2nd and was paid #2 money.
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They're saying that just because a team that happened to be picking ahead of you didn't pick me, doesn't mean that I'm a less valuable player.
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That's what his agent is arguing. He's trying to break the slotting system because I'm sure that the 49ers management have told him that he was the top guy on their board, and most everybody in, associated with, or even following the NFL thinks that Crabtree is better than Hayward Bey. Crabtree's teams position is if you think I'm better than this guy, pay me more than him. They're saying that just because a team that happened to be picking ahead of you didn't pick me, doesn't mean that I'm a less valuable player.
Well, too bad for Crabtree! If you think you're so much better, come in and play lights out better than DHB and score a fantastic second contract.

Rookies shouldn't be paid this kind of money anyway without earning it first, but that's a separate issue.
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Crabtree is not starting off his career well. If he's so much better than DHB, get on the football field and prove it. No better way. Talk is cheap.
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That's what his agent is arguing. He's trying to break the slotting system because I'm sure that the 49ers management have told him that he was the top guy on their board, and most everybody in, associated with, or even following the NFL thinks that Crabtree is better than Hayward Bey. Crabtree's teams position is if you think I'm better than this guy, pay me more than him. They're saying that just because a team that happened to be picking ahead of you didn't pick me, doesn't mean that I'm a less valuable player.
Whether or not Crabtree was #1 on the 49ers board is moot. Whether or not everyone thought (key word being thought) Crabtree was the best receiver in draft is also moot. He wasn't the highest rated receiver in the draft, he wasn't the first receiver off the board, he was picked 10th, and that's fact. He gets slotted just like all the other rookies. That's the way it is, and I highly doubt that Crabtree is the kind of player an NFL team is going to disregard the established slotting system for.

I desperately want him to re-enter the draft next year so he can slip out of the 1st round. I can see it now, "you should pay me DHB money because the 49ers had me rated higher than him in the 2009 draft." Classic.
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Whether or not Crabtree was #1 on the 49ers board is moot. Whether or not everyone thought (key word being thought) Crabtree was the best receiver in draft is also moot. He wasn't the highest rated receiver in the draft, he wasn't the first receiver off the board, he was picked 10th, and that's fact. He gets slotted just like all the other rookies. That's the way it is, and I highly doubt that Crabtree is the kind of player an NFL team is going to disregard the established slotting system for.

I desperately want him to re-enter the draft next year so he can slip out of the 1st round. I can see it now, "you should pay me DHB money because the 49ers had me rated higher than him in the 2009 draft." Classic.
He wasn't the highest rated WR in the draft?
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Unless your drafting Top 3 the player you picked will be ranked higher than the slot you pick him at. The further into the draft you go the more that gap increases. Its not unusual in Crabs case, every draft some teams get tremendous perceived value on their picks.
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I am against the Crabtree holdout but not enough of the attention has been drawn to the fact that the Raiders paid Darrius Haeyward-Bey far more than the 18% yearly increase. Crabtree's agent "reportedly" wants the same increase as well.
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There's nothing misleading about his talent; it's for real. But he's an idiot for holding out the way he's doing. His attitude, not his talent, may cause him to bust.
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That was never the case..
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San Fran should trade his rights to the Broncos for Brandon Marshall.
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San Fran should trade his rights to the Broncos for Brandon Marshall.
Too bad the deadline to trade rookies was 2 weeks ago.
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