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Old 09-12-2009, 06:46 PM    (permalink
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I we're going to be in the Jermaine Gresham sweepstakes this upcoming draft. I think he might fall to mid 2nd because of his injury and I would definitely use our 1st and then trade up in the 2nd to get him.

I would want Eric Berry, but I dont think I would want anything to with Taylor Mays or Morgan Burnett if it involves trading up. Dont get me wrong, they're good players, but not worth it to me.

I'm looking to get a LB like Navorro Bowman in the 3rd, maybe the 2nd, if we dont get one in the 1st. He is 6'1, 230 and a pretty good athlete.
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I we're going to be in the Jermaine Gresham sweepstakes this upcoming draft. I think he might fall to mid 2nd because of his injury and I would definitely use our 1st and then trade up in the 2nd to get him.

I would want Eric Berry, but I dont think I would want anything to with Taylor Mays or Morgan Burnett if it involves trading up. Dont get me wrong, they're good players, but not worth it to me.

I'm looking to get a LB like Navorro Bowman in the 3rd, maybe the 2nd, if we dont get one in the 1st. He is 6'1, 230 and a pretty good athlete.
Lookin a little far ahead aren't we? lol

Seriously though, I don't think TE will have to be addressed early come draft time. Obviously the whole process is fluid, but I wouldn't mind something like tha, thaough I doubt we go TE that early...
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Lets see some obvious positions of need.

LB-anywhere and everywhere either starters or depth.
Rb - everyone knows the eagles are not bringing Westy back, he has lost quite a bit. And we need to bring in a compliment to Shady, its a 2 back league now.
WR- Curtis out for the season, he hasn't been healthy for a while, Reggie Brown who? and just lost some youth in a trade. I would rather prefer a vet, but someone needs to be added.
OL- drafted every year this year won't be any different. And need depth at tackle and I don't see Shawn Andrews coming back.
Cb - could use some back up, Hobbs isn't signed long term as far as I know.
S - Sean Jones, is only on a 1 year deal. Would like to have him stay longer.

Positions were are good for as in Starters and Back ups.

DL - everywhere, though you could make a case about age and injury
Qb - he'll be around
Fb - Weaver is good
Te - Celek is good, and have yet to see how Ingram turns out.

But the biggest issues for the draft are mostly find depth.
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Anyways, with the acquisition of Will Witherspoon I don't think that WLB is a premier need anymore, the Eagles no longer need someone who can come in right away. Instead they can have someone who is talented but raw come in from the middle rounds and groom them behind Witherspoon/Jordan for two years. Also with Stewart Bradley coming back MLB won't be a need and Chris Gocong is IMO gone in free agency so SLB might be the spot that needs the most help but the Eagles are really high on Moises Fokou the rookie out of Maryland.

IMO the premier need is DL, the reason the linebackers look questionable so much is because there are so many blitzes and there are blitzes because the front 4 cannot get consistent pressure on the QB, Trent Cole can but no one else can. The Eagles really need a LE who can rush the passer and I've got my eyes set on Derrick Morgan out of Georgia Tech who plays just like Justin Tuck.

Also on my radar on offense is Trent Williams who is falling because he struggles with speed, but he is a perfect fit on the right side of the line which is where the Eagles need a lot of help and he has the speed to stick with Tuck and the power to withstand his bull rush, he is the top RT in the draft and luckily for the Eagles right tackles never go very high unless your name is Jeff Otah or Gosder, both of whom IMO are much more powerful than Williams.

I would also really like to get a power back and I really like Toby Gerhart out of Stanford as the power back the Eagles should grab. And with Jason Avant possibly heading into free agency the Eagles might need a new slot receiver and I like Blair White and Eric Decker for that spot, and both of them have potential to play outside as well but I like them inside where they can use their size and strength to outmuscle smaller nickel corners.
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Allen Bailey or Sean Weatherspoon are two players Im looking at.
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To bad Bailey is not coming out early.

Weatherspoon would be nice.
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Weatherspoon or a DE like Graham, Morgan, Hardy for me.

I would add kicker to our list of needs as well as I love the guy, but Akers time is up. I hope we use our last pick on a guy like Tiffin. Our needs I would say OLB, RT, LE, CB, S, RB, WR, TE, K Like Sniper said most of it is just depth though. We have a **** load of picks this year which is great considering the depth of this draft especially with all the underclassmen that will be coming out. We have a 1st, two 2nds, two 3rds, a 4th, two 5ths and a 6th.
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I kind of hope we trade out of this draft and into next years, but you never want to be looking ahead.

This year's draft is probably as bad as 05 I think.
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I am 100% sure the Eagles are going to go for a corner in the first round.

Reason 1: The Eagles are actively looking for depth

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2. The Eagles follow a pattern when drafting.
-They've drafted a QB, DT, WR, CB, OG, DT, DT (that is McNabb through Bunkley) and just recently the process has started over, they drafted Kevin Kolb with their first pick, then they drafted Trevor Laws with their first pick and then they drafted Jeremy Maclin with their first round draft pick. So what's up next? CB.

3. The need is there
-Ellis Hobbs is as good as gone next season, Joselio Hanson and Sheldon Brown are aging and the Eagles are always troubled by bigger receivers.

4. Andy Reid values CBs highly
-The Eagles drafted Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown when both Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor were still on the team, that was in 2002 and the Eagles let both Vincent and Taylor go after the 2003 season after Brown and Sheppard had been pros for two seasons, at the time of their release Vincent was 32 and Taylor was 30, guess what? Sheldon Brown is rapidly approaching the time of release, he is 30 and he turns 31 in March, he has a contract dispute and his contract expires in 2013 which means when his contract expires he'll be 33 and if the Eagles drafted a CB in the 2010 draft the CB would have 3 years of experience if he doesn't overtake him in 2012 when Brown is 32. The time for a youth movement at CB is rapidly approaching and Andy Reid loves to spend money on corners, just look at where he drafted Lito (1st round), Sheldon Brown (2nd round) and he spent 57 million on Asante Samuel.

So... who figures to be around when the Eagles draft?
Donovan Warren- Sniper probably knows more than me, but my impression of Warren is that he is a great man to man corner who can stick with his man but he gets exposed because Michigan can't get pressure. Warren has 4 interceptions on the season and seems to be a very athletic corner who is fluid and flexible and perhaps his best asset is his size at 6' 200 pounds with 4.4 speed. He has the physical abilities of a shut down corner with his long, lean frame, his speed and his long arms. But on those interceptions, Warren has shown a nice ability to jump routes, read the QB and has shown nice instincts. I really like Warren and I feel like he is the second best corner in this class but he falls behind others because of the defense he is on.


Kyle Wilson- The guy just makes plays at the CB spot and the PR spot. Kyle tackles (35 tackles, 26 unassisted), break up passes, intercepts (15 defended passes, five interceptions, and 10 breakups), and is a superb special teams player—returning punts (33 punt returns, 470 yards, for an average of 14.2 yards per return) scoring touchdowns on 3 returns last season. So far in 2009 he hasn't really been tested but he still has 2 interceptions, one of which he returned for a touchdown and he is averaging 10 yards a punt return. Wes Bunting of the National Football Post said this of Wilson:
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I really think he would make a very good CB in the Eagles scheme, plus he has dreadlocks and that makes him even more awesome.

And guys I like but I think are more second round prospects are:

Javier Arenas- Arenas is a junkyard scrap dog. He flows to the ball and loves to hit. Plays way bigger then he is, and uses good strength on bump coverage. One of the best blitzing corners I’ve seen, Arenas has an amazing first step and seems to always find the QB when he’s blitzing. Arenas is very athletic which helps when he is covering men that have the height advantage on him. He will fight for the ball as well, watching the Ole Miss game I saw him wrestle the ball away from a receiver in the air. Arenas brings in versatility as a return specialist, and the type of player you want on your d. A scrappy player that just doesn’t like to lose, and does what it takes to win. I constantly try to watch Alabama games because I love their defense and the player that always sticks out in the secondary is Arenas, he does it all, he isn't afraid to hit anyone and like I said earlier he is just a scrappy guy who is a genuine tough guy. He really reminds me of Antoine Winefield and I see a little bit of Sheldon Brown in him. The only problem with Arenas is his size which is less than ideal at about 5'9" but he plays MUCH bigger than that.

Syd'Quan Thompson- He is another smaller player who plays huge, he and Arenas are really similar in play styles. Thompson is a big time tackler at the CB spot as well and like Arenas he is not afraid to stick his nose in the pile and get dirty. Thompson is really physical in coverage and he will do whatever it takes to get someone off their routes, again like Arenas. One of the larger differences between the two is Thompson has better hands as he had a nice year last year intercepting passes. Also like Arenas, Thompson is an accomplished returner, racking up 344 punt return yards and a 70-yard TD last season. Thompson is another corner who is small but has a ton of fight in him and I really like that.

I used to like Patrick Robinson but after seeing him get toasted every game I watch, I've decided he is a high upside athlete more than he is a first round corner prospect right now. Also I am really interested in learning more about USF corner Jerome Murphy but I can't find any game tape, games on TV nor can I even find any credible scout talking about him. Also the UCLA corner Alterraun Verner is going to IMO be the second coming of Asante Samuel, Verner is a ballhawk who breaks on passes really well and I think that if Bill Belichek gets his hands on him he can turn him into the second coming of Asante Samuel or the third coming of Ty Law.
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My dream draft pick is Rolando McClain when I watch Bama games (Ive seen 4) he is always making the tackle or getting pressure up the middle when blitzing. I remember his freshman season when Bama was playing Colorado in a bowl game on the first drive he got an interception broke his had came back with a cast on in the second half and finished with double digit tackles.
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My dream draft pick is Rolando McClain when I watch Bama games (Ive seen 4) he is always making the tackle or getting pressure up the middle when blitzing. I remember his freshman season when Bama was playing Colorado in a bowl game on the first drive he got an interception broke his had came back with a cast on in the second half and finished with double digit tackles.
I wish McClain would be on the board but I highly doubt it, IMO he is top 10 material.
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Like I mentioned before, I would be thrilled if the eagles could swing a trade to land Eric Berry, he is my favorite prospect period in recent memory.
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Is LE really the answer? I think we get a solid amount of pressure from there, but granted they are aging.

I think the problem comes from our DT's. They're monsters at stopping run and they occasionally push the pocket, but I want to see a more consistent pass rush from our DT's.

Supposedly this is a deep CB class, so I doubt we get one 1st round.

If Gocong doesnt resign, we may see Brandon Spikes as an Eagle.
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Graham poops on both of those clowns.
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And push Bradley back to the strong side?

If we're going to go LB, I want...

1. Sergio Kindle. Would allow Bradley to stay in the middle.
1a. Rolando McClain. If you want a MLB to push Bradley to SLB, he's the guy.
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And push Bradley back to the strong side?

If we're going to go LB, I want...

1. Sergio Kindle. Would allow Bradley to stay in the middle.
1a. Rolando McClain. If you want a MLB to push Bradley to SLB, he's the guy.
I was thinking more of Spikes playing SLB. He has the blitzing experience asked for in our LB's and can flat out play football. Granted he has some character concerns, but I could see him successful here.

I want Rolando McClain above all else too, but I simply dont see it happening. Sean Weatherspoon probably wont reach us either, and WLB is not our key concern with the addition of Will Witherspoon and Akeem Jordan's play.
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Bradley at SAM and Spikes at MIKE makes more sense.
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No thank you to Spikes or Kindle. Weatherspoon or McClain for me. Best two lbs in the class. Kindle's more of a 3-4 olb anyways.
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No thank you to Spikes or Kindle. Weatherspoon or McClain for me. Best two lbs in the class. Kindle's more of a 3-4 olb anyways.
Weatherspoon at Will, Witherspoon at MLB, Bradley at SLB is what you're thinking?
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To be honest, I'd be pretty happy with Jordan - Witherspoon - Bradley at LB. I want to go DE or DB in the 1st.
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Is LE really the answer? I think we get a solid amount of pressure from there, but granted they are aging.

I think the problem comes from our DT's. They're monsters at stopping run and they occasionally push the pocket, but I want to see a more consistent pass rush from our DT's.

Supposedly this is a deep CB class, so I doubt we get one 1st round.

If Gocong doesnt resign, we may see Brandon Spikes as an Eagle.
Luckily the team is in a position that their first round pick doesn't have to be "the answer", and haven't had that since McNabb was drafted. I personally think the secondary and even the OL may be bigger needs, depending how things pan out with the Andrews brothers. This may be a deep CB class, but the team values them highly and if they feel the value is there, they'll take one. Keep in mind as well that LB is not high on their value chart either, and with players who can potentially fill that spot in, I find it more likely they address it later in the draft.
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RT is another need too with Andrews' career in jeopardy and Justice still unproven. I know Justice has played much better this season and we just gave him a nice extension, but we should draft a RT for depth if anything. Right guard could also become a need with Stacy Andrews sucking and MJG set to become a free agent. Should be able to pick up a nice guard in the middle rounds.
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