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Old 09-15-2009, 11:36 PM    (permalink
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Well the Broncos were one of their winable games and they blew that one.

Next week they get Green Bay, which will send them to 0-2. Then Pittsburgh, which should send them to 0-3. 0-3 is a great start to getting the #1 pick. Then they go to Cleveland, @ Baltimore, vs Houston, vs Chicago. I think it's definitely possible for them to be winless at their bye, and I don't think they can win more than one of those.
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Reading through this brings me to this question...Is Carson Palmer, through nearly no fault of his own, the biggest waste of quarterbacking talent ever?

Gotta feel for the guy.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:24 AM    (permalink
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Reading through this brings me to this question...Is Carson Palmer, through nearly no fault of his own, the biggest waste of quarterbacking talent ever?

Gotta feel for the guy.
I'm assuming by "waste" you mean he has an awful W/L record for how talented he is. And you're probably right, his talent + wins don't add up. But, a big part of that is luck.

We have 2 of the best AFC teams in our division, a big time injury happens every single year, our draft luck is awful and we can't seem to build a balanced team.

So yes, the Bengals are wasting Palmer's talent. But I'm not giving up on them yet. Every team gets better every week, but I think the Bengals can fix a lot of their problems quickly.
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Reading through this brings me to this question...Is Carson Palmer, through nearly no fault of his own, the biggest waste of quarterbacking talent ever?

Gotta feel for the guy.
How about, the greatest talent forced to swim in the world's biggest pile of crap from the head of the organization on down?
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How about, the greatest talent forced to swim in the world's biggest pile of crap from the head of the organization on down?
Bengalsrocket, this is pretty mcuh what i meant.
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I got Tampa, Denver, and Detroit as the worst 3.
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I don't think the organization is bad though. Mike Brown gets a lot of crap, but almost unnecessarily. Sure we have bad drafts but no more than the next team. You could blame the coaching staff, but most of the top coaches were here when we won the division a few years back (except Zimmer, but I think we can all agree Zimmer has been good for us).

We mostly get screwed by luck. Palmer's knee injury the play offs. Pollack's career ending neck injury. Odell Thurman's unwarranted 2 year suspension. Palmer's elbow injury in 08. 7 Linebackers on the IR in 08. Rudi's 7 or 8 week hamstring injury in 07' (after he rushed for 100 yards in the season opener). Or Chris Perry being awesome in 05, then hurt for most of 06 and all of 07 and then never returning to that 05 form.

And look, I get it, all teams have injuries and stuff they have to deal with. But unfortunately we were a young team and didn't have anyone to step up for us for the last 2-3 years whenever someone went down. But we're not that far removed from a great division winning season, and I don't think it's the organization's fault that we're a bottom tier team at the moment.
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After the early games I would keep the Rams, Lions, Raiders, and Chiefs towards the top; move the Redskins and Jags closer; and drop the Bengals and Texans out of the race.
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Rams or Lions.

Rams will probably get the #2 pick for the 3rd year in a row.
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Well the Broncos were one of their winable games and they blew that one.

Next week they get Green Bay, which will send them to 0-2. Then Pittsburgh, which should send them to 0-3. 0-3 is a great start to getting the #1 pick. Then they go to Cleveland, @ Baltimore, vs Houston, vs Chicago. I think it's definitely possible for them to be winless at their bye, and I don't think they can win more than one of those.
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Rams or Lions.

Rams will probably get the #2 pick for the 3rd year in a row.
6 points in two weeks for the Rams. Not good.
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Well the Broncos were one of their winable games and they blew that one.

Next week they get Green Bay, which will send them to 0-2. Then Pittsburgh, which should send them to 0-3. 0-3 is a great start to getting the #1 pick. Then they go to Cleveland, @ Baltimore, vs Houston, vs Chicago. I think it's definitely possible for them to be winless at their bye, and I don't think they can win more than one of those.
I predicted them to win the division. The Bengals are strong! Damn you Stokley!
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I predicted them to win the division. The Bengals are strong! Damn you Stokley!
That Stokley catch killed me... but today was a proud day to be a Bengals fan. Very few people thought they could beat GB and they played very well today. Hopefully we will stay consistent and put up some more W's.
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The worst team I've had the pleasure of watching through two games has been Detroit. Cleveland would be second, but it's a pretty strong lead by Detroit.
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After seeing what's happening in the Cleveland/Denver game, I might rethink this statement........................
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Cleveland, Detroit, St. Louis have to be the top three at this point. If Tampa doesn't improve soon, I could see them entering the conversation.
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After seeing what's happening in the Cleveland/Denver game, I might rethink this statement........................
Well, after watching the Denver/Cincinnati game, I thought Denver was awful.

But then Cincinnati comes into Green Bay and wins, then Denver whoops up on Cleveland.

It works out if you think about it, but I see where your coming from.

St. Louis blows too.
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Well, after watching the Denver/Cincinnati game, I thought Denver was awful.

But then Cincinnati comes into Green Bay and wins, then Denver whoops up on Cleveland.

It works out if you think about it, but I see where your coming from.

St. Louis blows too.
Mind you, I'm not saying Detroit might not be worse than Cleveland, I'm just saying after this performance by Cleveland, I don't think the spread's that big.
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The big matchup will be Browns-Lions. The pooper-bowl.
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Will Derek Anderson be starting by then? Or will Mangini have traded all of his players to the Jets for their scrubs by that point?
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The Cleveland Browns are beyond terrible. The Lions have a lot of good pieces, and the offense is on the up and up. Top to bottom, the Browns are just putrid.
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