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It has been about five years since the classic Umenyiora vs. Peppers debate. This should be fun. First off:

John Abraham is the better and more productive player than Dwight Freeney

Reason: When Freeney first came into the league he was nigh unstoppable, especially in that track meet they call a stadium. However, as he has aged he has been getting hurt a lot, lost a step, and hasn't been the force he used to be. Not to mention teams take advantage of him in the running/screen game and it has hurt the Colts in big time games (see Darren Sproles).

John Abraham has been consistently great his entire career and has seen no drop-off. If anything he looks better and more balanced as a player in recent years.

Either comment on this one or add your own.
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Troy Williamson is a better and more productive player than Tavaris Jackson.

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Ah yes.

I wish I could have taken a picture of the poll that was put up. Talk about every single one of my opposers (aka the entire board) eating crow.
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Eat what crow? I would take Julius Peppers' career over Umenyiora's anyday. Osi isn't even the best DE on his own team; Justin Tuck is godlike I might add.
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Eddie Royal's 15 minutes are over. He caught a lot of passes because Jay Cutler threw a lot of passes. He didn't even average 10 ypc, I do not think he will ever live up to what he did as a rookie.
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ha and again ha. Osi is a better DE than Tuck.

or to sound more rational, was pre-injury and it wasn't close. Now Osi looks rusty and sluggish against the run. We'll see how he looks later in the season.

And really? Peppers' career over Osi's? interesting.

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I agree with both of those.

1. Chris Johnson is hands down better than Slaton, and although MJD is great he has been surpassed as the best dual threat RB in the NFL. It has gone like this:

Marshall Faulk > Brian Westbrook > Maurice Jones-Drew > Chris Johnson

2. I think we've seen the best from Marshall and I think Jackson is better than him now and will continue to get better.
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If you want a reason Brandon is a huge dusche and I wouldnt want him on my team.
I think you mean douche...and I really don't think that is enough of a reason. Vincent Jackson has had a very mediocre career up to this point while B Marsh has dominated. There is no debate.
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ha and again ha. Osi is a better DE than Tuck.

or to sound more rational, was pre-injury and it wasn't close. Now Osi looks rusty and sluggish against the run. We'll see how he looks later in the season.

And really? Peppers' career over Osi's? interesting.

Raymell Rice> Steve Slaton.
Julius Peppers: twice as many pro-bowls, twice as many All-Pro selections, has been brilliant year in and year out, probably will notch 100 sacks in his career.

Umenyiora is a fine player, and at times he has played the best at his position. For the long haul it isn't even close. As it stands now I think Justin Tuck is more integral to that defense and Tuck was the player who won that Super Bowl.
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That said, Dustin Keller = Best young pass catching TE in the league. D'Brick > Joe Thomas.

Tuck > Osi

Ware > Merriman

Andre Johnson > Larry Fitzgerald

Dwayne Bowe > Brandon Marshall.
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Johnson over Fitzgerald is a good one, Ware over Merriman is a foregone conclusion now although it used to be a classic debate before last year.
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Ryan Clady>Michael Roos
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Ryan Clady>Michael Roos
no. Roos is the best LT in the game.

Ryan Clady > Joe Thomas
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