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I say 7 picks on defensive this year IDC all 7.
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I am pretty sure we were 3-3 last year as well and we went 11-5....Just saying that we need to chill out. The panic button should not be hit yet. Yes we have a lot we need to work on this bye week and hopefully we can get some kind of trade in before the deadline(I doubt it). We can get it done on offense. I mean Flacco/Rice/Mason all showed that. I would love to make a deal for a physical CB or maybe we can say we are sorry a million times to C-mac and talk him into coming back.
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The Titans are 0-6, maybe there shopping Cortland Finnegan, he'd be an awesome pickup, but I doubt they're gonna trade there best corner.
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I think no matter what WR has to be our #1 need.

Mason, Clayton, Williams, Washington, Tyree are all URFA's after this season. And personally I would give Washington a new one year deal. Of course you know I would give D Will a new deal but since Cam and Harbaugh apparently hate him he's gone. Mason will probably retire, and I wouln't give Clayton a deal unless he is willing to take #3 WR money. And Tyree wont be back, so basically if you dont re-sign the guys who dont retire you go into next year with Justin Harper and Eron Riley as your top 2 WRs. And even if you bring back Washington thats still an ugly looking group of WRs.
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I think no matter what WR has to be our #1 need.

Mason, Clayton, Williams, Washington, Tyree are all URFA's after this season. And personally I would give Washington a new one year deal. Of course you know I would give D Will a new deal but since Cam and Harbaugh apparently hate him he's gone. Mason will probably retire, and I wouln't give Clayton a deal unless he is willing to take #3 WR money. And Tyree wont be back, so basically if you dont re-sign the guys who dont retire you go into next year with Justin Harper and Eron Riley as your top 2 WRs. And even if you bring back Washington thats still an ugly looking group of WRs.
I think even if we resign 2 of those, and one of the jucier FA's from opposing teams, Flacco has shown enough this season to illustrate he doesnt need a top flight WR to score points. What we do need is a ******* secondary which can cover someone. The pass D has been atrocious, and I still think CB should be our top priority.
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I think even if we resign 2 of those, and one of the jucier FA's from opposing teams, Flacco has shown enough this season to illustrate he doesnt need a top flight WR to score points. What we do need is a ******* secondary which can cover someone. The pass D has been atrocious, and I still think CB should be our top priority.
Flacco has done really well with this extremely average core of receivers. Kelly Washington should be back. And hopefully they can convince Dmase to stay one more year. But if not, I still think the defense needs some attention. I'm a big Perrish Cox fan, and I think he'd be awesome for us in the middle of the first. And then hopefully Nakamura or Zbikowski can take over for Landry, who apparently can't run anymore.
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yes I would love to give Zbikowski a shot back there, all this play like a Ravens crap about intensity and all jinxed us. Zbikowski is a physical prescence we need back there. Landry was a great in the box physical player but it looks like after that injury he isnt the same, we need Zbikowski to get a shot.
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yes I would love to give Zbikowski a shot back there, all this play like a Ravens crap about intensity and all jinxed us. Zbikowski is a physical prescence we need back there. Landry was a great in the box physical player but it looks like after that injury he isnt the same, we need Zbikowski to get a shot.
Id actually rather see Nakamura get a starting shot back there next to Reed then Zbikowski. I was a huge Zbi supporter in the draft and was thrilled when we got him, but Nakamura has shown some nice coverage ability and right now, tahts what we need more then anything.
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Id actually rather see Nakamura get a starting shot back there next to Reed then Zbikowski. I was a huge Zbi supporter in the draft and was thrilled when we got him, but Nakamura has shown some nice coverage ability and right now, tahts what we need more then anything.
He would probably get the first shot at it too. He seems to get more PT on defense right now than Zbikowski.
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Flacco has done really well with this extremely average core of receivers. Kelly Washington should be back. And hopefully they can convince Dmase to stay one more year. But if not, I still think the defense needs some attention. I'm a big Perrish Cox fan, and I think he'd be awesome for us in the middle of the first. And then hopefully Nakamura or Zbikowski can take over for Landry, who apparently can't run anymore.
Tom Brady always showed he could play well with **** awful WRs also, but when they got him a true #1 he set records. Regardless of Joe's performance with his crop of WRs he needs a #1.
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Tom Brady always showed he could play well with **** awful WRs also, but when they got him a true #1 he set records. Regardless of Joe's performance with his crop of WRs he needs a #1.
Not at the cost of our defense giving up 30 points a game he doesnt. Pick your poison, either we score 30 points a game with mediocre receivers and a strong running game but give up 35 with no pass D, or get some damn pass defense and hope Flacco can make those bad receivers better.
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Not at the cost of our defense giving up 30 points a game he doesnt. Pick your poison, either we score 30 points a game with mediocre receivers and a strong running game but give up 35 with no pass D, or get some damn pass defense and hope Flacco can make those bad receivers better.
You don't have to pick on or the other, Im not saying what we should do Im saying what our biggest need is and its WR. The secondary would be alright if we didnt give QBs all the time in the world to stand in the pocket. Do we need a bigger CB to match up against the Vincent Jackson's and Brandon Marshall's of the world?....yes, but we need a true #1 target for Flacco more than anything else. And I realize this is a big board thing but Im not saying this has to happen in the draft, in fact Id like all the problems to be fixed by free agency and then draft a BPA like Gresham.
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I would much rather Nakamura in there, he can be something really good imo

But obviously CB and WR are huge needs but when going into the draft WRs recently have been dropping, so thats a plus.

just wanna look at some of the senior prospects
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Brandon Lafell - Great talent would give the size, red zone threat, and toughness we need at WR. IMO slightly overrated at this point and will be a mid 2nd round pick
Mardy Gilyard - I am in love with this kid, he is deadly quick out of his cuts, can jump, has great production and is really underrated. Reminds me alot of Ochocinco. Great mid to late 2nd rounder
Eric Decker - Great Hands, toughness and is the definition of team player. Not much to dislike just not as athletically gifted. Late 2nd

At CB
Perrish Cox - He has size, is physical with recievers, loves to tackle and is an athlete. Will be an amazing NFL corner and imo the best senior. Come draft time late 1st early 2nd.
Patrick Robinson - Great ball skills and is a playmaker, aggressive and lays the lumber. Has a great program pedigree. late 1st early 2nd.

depending on where we draft we can get a wide variety. My dream is we get into playoffs win SB have 32nd pick get perrish cox and get Gilyard in 2nd, however slim chances.

but who are the top juniors?? or possible players who may declare
Patrick Robinson -
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I never thought Brady was that great of a quarterback in those times. He had a comparable core and didn't put up huge numbers and threw a lot of picks. I think Flacco is doing better than Brady did at this point in his career. I guess that's not relevant, but I don't know if we can get a Randy Moss and a Wes Welker in the same offseason.
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I would much rather Nakamura in there, he can be something really good imo

But obviously CB and WR are huge needs but when going into the draft WRs recently have been dropping, so thats a plus.

just wanna look at some of the senior prospects
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Brandon Lafell - Great talent would give the size, red zone threat, and toughness we need at WR. IMO slightly overrated at this point and will be a mid 2nd round pick
Mardy Gilyard - I am in love with this kid, he is deadly quick out of his cuts, can jump, has great production and is really underrated. Reminds me alot of Ochocinco. Great mid to late 2nd rounder
Eric Decker - Great Hands, toughness and is the definition of team player. Not much to dislike just not as athletically gifted. Late 2nd

At CB
Perrish Cox - He has size, is physical with recievers, loves to tackle and is an athlete. Will be an amazing NFL corner and imo the best senior. Come draft time late 1st early 2nd.
Patrick Robinson - Great ball skills and is a playmaker, aggressive and lays the lumber. Has a great program pedigree. late 1st early 2nd.

depending on where we draft we can get a wide variety. My dream is we get into playoffs win SB have 32nd pick get perrish cox and get Gilyard in 2nd, however slim chances.

but who are the top juniors?? or possible players who may declare
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thank god I have been a fan of him, I am glad Ellerbe and Webb are showing promise, making me look smart I told all my Ravens fans friends to watch out for these 2 now I am looking smarter. I need Eron RIley to do work and my friends will think I am a genius
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Good idea. Let's just trade a 4th for him like the Patriots did. I wish we had been that lucky.
It could have been us.
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r.i. dowling is too slow for our defense...he's a cover 2 corner only

updated draft board...berry and mays will be long gone.

1) d. bryant
2) a. benn
3) j. gresham
4) j. haden
5) p. cox
6) d. thomas
7) d. williams
8) p. robinson
9) b. ghee...c.b. wake forest
10) b. lafell


i think we should target ghee in the second round unless we go corner in the first then i think we target d. thomas, d. williams, b. lafell or d. briscoe in the second...in my new mock i have us picking 16th...we get dez round 1, p. cox round 2 and o.g. sergio render round 3...i think the return of gaither and another grinder at o.g. next to oher would solidify our line as the best in football.
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If Mattison is the DC I could see him push for either of the FL CBs or Spikes, he did recruit them. I see us either going TE or BPA on D.
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I don't know, this could very well be the year we actually go WR in round one. All five of the receivers on the active roster are on 1 year deals/in the last year of their deal. BPA is always the way to go, but when you literally have no wide-outs I don't think you can ignore it. I expect at least Washington to be back, but IDK about the others.
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You never know. There will be free agents and we will probably go 2nd or 3rd round WR
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Still for Flacco's development if Mason retires at least 2 or 3 real veteran receivers must be brought in. You can't rely on even a first round rookie WR to start or even necessarily produce consistently in his first year. The Ravens need to grab someone like Antonio Bryant or Kevin Walter.
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