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View Poll Results: Who is the best CB in the NFC East
Sheldon Brown 11 6.40%
Lito Sheppard 60 34.88%
Terence Newman 86 50.00%
Shawn Springs 14 8.14%
Anthony Henry 1 0.58%
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:22 AM    (permalink
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It is a little debate eaglesalltheway and I are having about who is the best. It is easily Terence Newman, but he thinks Terence newman sucks, lol.

Please be honest, and lets have a good debate.
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Whos the best corner in AFC East? Asante Samuel

how about we do for each division..

AFC
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East - Samuel,(dyson 2nd?)
West - Bailey (Asamougha 2nd?)
South - Mathis (Pacman 2nd?)
North - McAlister (is there a 2nd?)

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East - Newman (Sheppard 2nd?)
West - Clements(Trufant 2nd)
South - Lucas(Hall 2nd?)
North - Harris (Winfield 2nd?)

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This is NFC East buddy, lol.

And what is with all of these Lito Sheppard votes, oh well, there are only so many eagles fans.
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Who voted for Shawn Springs, lol.
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Winfield is the best CB in the NFC North and i will admit that. In the NFC East its Terence Newman
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South - Lucas(Hall 2nd?)
Lucas & Hall are overrated players. Hall gets burned too often to be an elite corner, and Lucas had a down year last year. The best corner in the NFC South is Ronde Barber, the all-pro. He's one of the best tackling corners in the league, has amazing field awareness, underrated speed, and he makes big plays in key moments, like his 3 INT TDs against the Eagles :D
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It doesn't matter whether Sheppard is better than Newman or not, because there are so many Cowboys fans that this one won't be close soon.
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Ronde Barder is average, but better than hall, I will give you that. He only made the pro-bowk this year on rep, and being tiki barber's brother. He had no business there this year, and you know it.
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It doesn't matter whether Sheppard is better than Newman or not, because there are so many Cowboys fans that this one won't be close soon.
It doesn't matter if there are a ton of cowboys fans, no one even compares to Newman in the East, and no, not many of the cowboys fans vote in the poles here. D-Unit won't I can bet you on that.
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Ronde Barder is average, but better than hall, I will give you that. He only made the pro-bowk this year on rep, and being tiki barber's brother. He had no business there this year, and you know it.
So Hall is below average....

Ronde's stats in 06: 98 tackles, 84 of them SOLO! 3 INTs for 2 TDs, and 13 passes defensed. The reason his INT numbers are so low is because teams threw on the other side after Kelly got injured, because Bolden is a liability and he was attacked and abused. INTs don't matter anyway so I don't have to explain myself.

I know understand why you have the worst rep on this forum, because saying he made the pro bowl because of his brother is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard. Ronde had every right to be at the Super Bowl this year, he personifies a great corner in every aspect.
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I feel Lito Shepard is the top corner in the NFC East!!!
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CBs aren't defined by stats at all. In fact, CB stats don't really mean anything at all.

Ronde Barber is not a great CB. Maybe good enough to make the pro-bowl a few times, but nothing amazing. Newman is much better, and should have been in the pro-bowl over him.
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By a statistic point of view..
NFC East
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Terrence Newman : 61 Tackles 1 INT
Anthony Henry : 81 Tackles 2 INT
Lito Sheppard : 30 Tackles 6 INT
Sheldon Brown : 52 Tackles 1 INT
Sam Madison : 39 Tackles 2 INTs
R.W. Mcquarters : 55 Tackles 1 FF 2 INTs
Shawn Springs : 38 Tackles 1 INT
Fred Smoot : 63 Tackles 2 FF 1 INT
Carlos Rogers : 78 Tackles 1 FF 1 INT


Lito Sheppard in my opinion, is the best in the NFC East.. He has the most INTs out of all of them and I think he missed a few games.

As for NFC CBs i'd rank them by 1. Barber 2. Hall. 3. Sheppard. 4. Newman 5. Lucas?

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Barber is a great CB. He fits the system perfectly. He's the perfect Cover 2 CB, I don't think theres a better Cover 2 CB in the league. I doubt there is in fact.

Id rate him ahead of Hall for now. Hall needs to rebound after this year before he can get shutdown acclaim again. Alot of it was scheme as well remember. Mora didn't use him the right way at all.

I'll keep the NFC East debate simple. Its Newman. The Eagles have the best CB duo in the East, I agree with that, but neither is better overall than Newman.
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Whos the best corner in AFC East? Asante Samuel

how about we do for each division..

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East - Samuel,(dyson 2nd?)
West - Bailey (Asamougha 2nd?)
South - Mathis (Pacman 2nd?)
North - McAlister (is there a 2nd?)

NFC
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East - Newman (Sheppard 2nd?)
West - Clements(Trufant 2nd)
South - Lucas(Hall 2nd?)
North - Harris (Winfield 2nd?)
Leigh Bodden is second best CB in the north, possibly Deltha O'Neal because of his playmaking ability.
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Lucas & Hall are overrated players. Hall gets burned too often to be an elite corner, and Lucas had a down year last year. The best corner in the NFC South is Ronde Barber, the all-pro. He's one of the best tackling corners in the league, has amazing field awareness, underrated speed, and he makes big plays in key moments, like his 3 INT TDs against the Eagles :D
Lucas had injuries ALL YEAR long..thats why he missed games and was very limited in playing time
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This is NFC East buddy, lol.

And what is with all of these Lito Sheppard votes, oh well, there are only so many eagles fans.
no **** its NFC East but who cares about them? We have a Newman 500000 Newman threads with bitches like you crying about how hes so underrated and doesnt make pro bowl and all that crap.

you want him to make pro bowl? Vote for him and let the NFL players and coaches vote him in.

Newman is a great corner..we know..Sheppard is pretty good aswell. its obvious a cowboy and an eagle fan wont agree.
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It doesn't matter if there are a ton of cowboys fans, no one even compares to Newman in the East, and no, not many of the cowboys fans vote in the poles here. D-Unit won't I can bet you on that.
Okay, there are like 50 Cowboys fans here. About 10 Eagles fans. So...

Also, look at the quote dude. What a surprise that your favorite player doesn't compare to anybody. He's in a league all by himself.

Please. Newman is a very good corner. He isnt in a league all by himself, that's only Champ Bailey. Sheppard is very close to Newman. Newman is probably a bit better but I voted Sheppard due to your blind homerism.
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ronde is definatly the best NFC corner, and no question he deserved to make the pro bowl. He pretty much singlehandidly won a game for the bucs this year. How many other CB;s can say that
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some people cannot read the title

in that division, i think its terrence newman
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On a side note, the Bears CB duo needs more love. The sum is greater than the parts, and they play well in the scheme and do what theyre told to do. Theyre also underrated in man coverage (I bet alot of fans don't know that the Bears ran alot more Man then your average Cover 2 team). They force turnovers, they come up and defend the run...underated if you ask me.
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It doesn't matter if there are a ton of cowboys fans, no one even compares to Newman in the East, and no, not many of the cowboys fans vote in the poles here. D-Unit won't I can bet you on that.
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Who voted for Shawn Springs, lol.
i just did. Springs doesnt get a 1/10th of the credit he deserves, sure he doesnt make flashy int's but hes really good, plus he was injured this year and the pass D fell apart.
1-Springs
2-Sheppard/Newman
4-Henry
5-Smoot
6-Brown
7-McQuarters
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CBs aren't defined by stats at all. In fact, CB stats don't really mean anything at all.

Ronde Barber is not a great CB. Maybe good enough to make the pro-bowl a few times, but nothing amazing. Newman is much better, and should have been in the pro-bowl over him.
Ronde Barber is an All-Pro corner. I think that defines him as great, without even looking at his exceptional play. The stats were just facts to back up my point. Stats mean nothing for CBs, but I think you can get a good idea of why Terence Newman is not nearly as good as Ronde by his stats and also you can see why he didn't make the Pro Bowl.

63 tackles and 1 INT don't exactly scream Pro Bowl, do they? Anthony Henry is a better corner than Juran Bolden too, so Newman probably gets more passes thrown his way, which means he should get more than 1 pick and 11 passes defensed.

Edit: Stats may mean "nothing", but why do all the great corners like Ronde, Champ & formerly Ty Law seem to always put up great stats?
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