Favre voted most overrated player

Todd Bertuzzi · 10-07-2009, 04:58 PM

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/200...overrated.html

Sports Illustrated polled 239 NFL players prior to week two of this season on who they thought was the most overrated player in the league and the results were as follows:

Favre 13%

Tony Romo 10%

Terrell Owens 8%

Eli Manning 7%

Gay Ork Wang · 10-07-2009, 04:59 PM

kinda works, although Eli did silent the doubters

Saints 4 Lyfe · 10-07-2009, 04:59 PM

Romo easily imo

Dam8610 · 10-07-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Bertuzzi

Eli Manning 7%

Really? The other 3 I can understand, but Eli is finally starting to look like a QB worthy of being the #1 pick that he was back in 2004. He has the 2nd highest TD pass total in the NFL and his team, particularly his offense, looks to be among the league's elite at this point. I'm starting to think reputations in the NFL lag a year or two behind performance.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH · 10-07-2009, 05:06 PM

This was week two though, poll now and Favre and Eli are probably off of that list.

Paranoidmoonduck · 10-07-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610

Really? The other 3 I can understand, but Eli is finally starting to look like a QB worthy of being the #1 pick that he was back in 2004. He has the 2nd highest TD pass total in the NFL and his team, particularly his offense, looks to be among the league's elite at this point. I'm starting to think reputations in the NFL lag a year or two behind performance.

You have to look at it from an NFL players perspective. They're going to name guys which have gotten excessive amounts of media coverage without necessarily having the numbers or skills to warrant it. There's no mystery as to why two of the guys are quarterbacks in big markets and the other two have been as over-covered as any two NFL players in the history of the game.

aNYtitan · 10-07-2009, 05:17 PM

IMO Romo is more overrated. For many, he is considered an elite QB even though he has not proven anything, and has a skill set that should produce better statistics, but is quite turnover prone and makes many mistakes. The only reason people say Favre is overrated is because of all his drama. He does what he is asked to do well. Manage the team, and when needed to, go ahead and take shots and try to carry the team when running the ball won't do (see game versus the Niners).

Shiver · 10-07-2009, 05:17 PM

Tony Romo hands down, he's a poor man's Brett Favre without the MVP awards and the wins. At least Favre has done something in his career.

SeanTaylorRIP · 10-07-2009, 05:46 PM

I have to go Romo. Everyone always has an excuse for him. Until in a clutch situation he proves us all wrong than he should be labeled overrated. Still with that said I'd want him, lol.

Shiver · 10-07-2009, 06:11 PM

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I have to go Romo. Everyone always has an excuse for him. Until in a clutch situation he proves us all wrong than he should be labeled overrated. Still with that said I'd want him, lol.

Let's be honest here: he is a mediocre QB whose statistics were propped up by a Hall of Fame WR and TE. Now that Owens is gone we are seeing who Romo really is.

diabsoule · 10-07-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Let's be honest here: he is a mediocre QB whose statistics were propped up by a Hall of Fame WR and TE. Now that Owens is gone we are seeing who Romo really is.

I agree 100%.

Bengalsrocket · 10-07-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Let's be honest here: he is a mediocre QB whose statistics were propped up by a Hall of Fame WR and TE. Now that Owens is gone we are seeing who Romo really is.

Are you referring to Witten as the HoF TE or am I misreading your sentence and you didn't mean for HoF to be applied to the TE?

Rosebud · 10-07-2009, 06:47 PM

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Are you referring to Witten as the HoF TE or am I misreading your sentence and you didn't mean for HoF to be applied to the TE?

I think Witten's going to be a hall of famer when he retires. The best TE in the league many years running and he doesn't look like he'll slow down any time soon.

Brodeur · 10-07-2009, 06:52 PM

Romo has been getting **** on for the last year and somehow he's overrated? Jesus christ people.

Shiver · 10-07-2009, 07:19 PM

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Are you referring to Witten as the HoF TE or am I misreading your sentence and you didn't mean for HoF to be applied to the TE?

He's had the best start of any TE in NFL history. I think if not, he is close if he can sustain a high level of play into his thirties.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=2958

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Does that title strike you as odd? Jason Witten, at least at first glance, doesn't strike me as a HOF player. In 2007, he was named a first-team All-Pro by the Associated Press, and last season he was named to its second-team. But his lack of awards to date has more to do with the dominance of Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates than the productivity of Jason Witten. But putting aside the questions of 1) exactly how good Witten has been, 2) whether or not he should make the Hall of Fame one day, or 3) whether or not he's a HOFer right now, by the time he retires it looks like he'll wind up in the Hall of Fame. And that comes as a surprise to me.

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With 40 receptions and 472 receiving yards in 2009, he will have more receptions and more receiving yards than any other tight end through the age of twenty-seven

bored of education · 10-07-2009, 07:34 PM

Past success doesn't guarantee future numbers either. The greatness of Tony G comes from the fact he has missed 2 games in his career. If you wanna project the future, I see Tony G getting at least 60 receptions another 5 years in a row and being top 3 in receptions all time.

Witten needs at least 6 more years of averaging 80 receptions 7 TDS and 900 yards to be in the same paragraph as Tony G. If he has that, then he will have similar stats as Tony G (who is only 33 btw) had at the age of 32.

I'm not saying Witten can't do it, but he has to average at least those number above to do what Tony has done. You cannot project what he will do without projecting what Tony has ahead of him...still only being 33 years old.

Shiver · 10-07-2009, 07:46 PM

I completely agree with you. I'm just saying that Jason Witten is really, really good from a historical standpoint.

bored of education · 10-07-2009, 07:50 PM

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I completely agree with you. I'm just saying that Jason Witten is really, really good from a historical standpoint.

So is Adrian Peterson but he ain't Walter Payton or Barry Sanders or Jim Brown. :)

But I agree Witten is nasty.

MetSox17 · 10-07-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Let's be honest here: he is a mediocre QB whose statistics were propped up by a Hall of Fame WR and TE. Now that Owens is gone we are seeing who Romo really is.

LOL, i find this hilarious. Go check what Owens is doing in Buffalo without a QB. What are his numbers again? A QB always makes a WR a better player than what the WR makes the QB.

SeanTaylorRIP · 10-07-2009, 07:58 PM

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LOL, i find this hilarious. Go check what Owens is doing in Buffalo without a QB. What are his numbers again? A QB always makes a WR a better player than what the WR makes the QB.

True but if you gave Joe Flacco TO, Witten, and Marion Barber, he'd be setting passing records.

Shiver · 10-07-2009, 08:04 PM

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LOL, i find this hilarious. Go check what Owens is doing in Buffalo without a QB. What are his numbers again? A QB always makes a WR a better player than what the WR makes the QB.

Terrell Owens at age 35 is a whole lot different than what he was two and three years ago. He showed signs of decline last year, but he has hit a huge wall this year.

As for your last sentence:

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A QB always makes a WR a better player than what the WR makes the QB.

I present to you in one image, this man:

Ask Randall Cunningham, Jeff George, Daunte Culpepper, Kerry Collins, Tom Brady, Matt Cassel and Chad Pennington about what Randy Moss meant for their careers.

MetSox17 · 10-07-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

True but if you gave Joe Flacco TO, Witten, and Marion Barber, he'd be setting passing records.

If we're gonna play the assumption game, then i could go ahead and say that if we had a different coaching staff, we'd be in the Superbowl. See how easy it was to make up a ridiculous statement?

Common myth about Owens from people that know nothing about this team is that he came in and made everyone around him so much better. Matter of fact is that Romo made HIM better. There's no way around that. You give Owens a ****** QB and he is as useless as anyone else.

MetSox17 · 10-07-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Terrell Owens at age 35 is a whole lot different than what he was two and three years ago. He showed signs of decline last year, but he has hit a huge wall this year.

As for your last sentence:

Ask Randall Cunningham, Jeff George, Daunte Culpepper, Kerry Collins, Tom Brady, Matt Cassel and Chad Pennington about what Randy Moss meant for their careers.

Randall Cunningham and Daunte Culpepper were good quarterbacks. Kerry Collins didn't do **** with Randy. Chad Pennington has never even played with Randy. And Matt Cassel was an average quarterback last year, so i'm not sure i know where you're going with that.

P-L · 10-07-2009, 08:08 PM

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LOL, i find this hilarious. Go check what Owens is doing in Buffalo without a QB. What are his numbers again? A QB always makes a WR a better player than what the WR makes the QB.

Roy Williams has not been producing as well with Tony Romo as he was with "no quarterback" in Detroit.

MetSox17 · 10-07-2009, 08:10 PM

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Roy Williams has not been producing as well with Tony Romo as he was with "no quarterback" in Detroit.

Completely different offenses. Did you see Sundays game? The Carolina game? Jason Garrett ******* blows as an offensive coordinator.

I'm not saying Romo is a great quarterback, he has been terrible these past few games, but i'm not so sure how the hell he's overrated. No one thinks he's that good.