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It's still early in the season, but not too early to talk about the individual awards.

ESPN is currently prognosticating a Heisman Final Four of Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, and Tony Pike. Who else could potentially crack that list?

On the Biletnikoff front (which I have an obvious interest in), I currently have a top 4 of Eric Decker, Marshawn Gilyard, Golden Tate, and AJ Green. Hopefully Decker wins, since he is the true messiah. All praise him.

I don't watch enough others teams and positions to make informed judgements, so have at it.
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Decker should win it but I have a feeling Tate or AJ Green will because of how wildly popular they are on ESPN. I'd argue that if Green at least finishes top 15 in the nation in receiving yards and TD's he's a shoe in for the award as ESPN loves him as do I but not as the best in the nation at this point in his career. Mike Wiliams and Demaryius Thomas also could end up contending in that list although Syracuse being so bad will reflect on Williams.
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Eric Berry for Thorpe?
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I dont think golden should win the biletnikoff cuz tbh he isnt even the best wideout on his own team. If michael floyd would have been able to keep playing like he was playing prior to his injury for the entire season he would have been a frontrunner imo. golden has already had to many vital drops
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I gotta think that right now Rolando McClain is leading the pack for the Butkus award. He's probably got a shot at the Nagurski and Bednarik awards too.
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Decker is absolutely, certainly gonna win the Biletnikoff if he keeps it up. No doubt.

I wonder if Brian Rolle will get some all-american love, keep our streak of all-american linebackers going (Wilhelm/Hawk/Carpenter/Laurinaitis).
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Toby Gerhart and Jacory should both be in the Heisman dicussion.
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I gotta think that right now Rolando McClain is leading the pack for the Butkus award. He's probably got a shot at the Nagurski and Bednarik awards too.
Homer pick from me too for McClain for Butkus, he's a larger version at 255 lbs. of the Texans' DeMeco Ryans at ILB, playing same spot at Bama but in a different scheme under Saban. McClain had 10 tackles, a TFL, defensed 2 passes, & an INT at Kentucky last weekend, he was all over the field. Todd McShea called McClain the "best LB it the nation" before the season started & McClain is proving him right, if he stays healthy he could actually lead the nation in total tackles by Bowl season.

He also said McClain would be the 1st LB taken in the next draft, that interest & the millions in guaranteed $ alone s/b enough to declare for McClain, who's a jr. That jr. status is all that's keeping him off Kiper's Top 10 list. I think he would best fit in the NFL as an ILB in a 3-4 scheme like Dallas' or the SD Bolts.

Speaking of Tide players, I'd love to see Collin Peek give Jermaine Gresham some competition for the Mackey Award for best TE, but I don't think anybody is going to touch Gresham. Peek has caught everything McElroy has thrown at him this yr. & the pro scouts are drooling over his good hands & route running, the guy is just plain 3rd & long clutch.

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Speaking of Tide players, I'd love to see Collin Peek give Jermaine Gresham some competition for the Mackey Award for best TE, but I don't think anybody is going to touch Gresham.
Gresham's not going to play a down this year.
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Hopefully Montario Hardesty keeps it up. I'd like to see him still in discussion for some awards later down the line.
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no homer, just a question but is rudolph the only guy who can keep pitta from the mackey
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Heisman - Suh
Outland - Carimi
Thorpe - Sash
Coach - Saban
Doak Walker - Gerhart
Largent - Golden Tate
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Largent - Golden Tate
O'Brien - Keenum
1) Suh has no chance at the heisman, I don't care how good he is.

2) What the **** is the Largent award? I'm guessing you mean Steve Largent, who has no college award named after him.

Sometimes man...I wonder...

3) Sash wasn't even on the watch list. I have a hard time seeing him getting it over Eric Berry or a few others.

4) I doubt Keenum gets it over bigger-names in the BCS, but it's posible.
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Yeah I meant Biletnikoff.

Suh should win the Heisman.

Tyler Sash has superior stats to any safety this year to date.
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Gresham's not going to play a down this year.
Then Peek has a chance!

Or not, lots of TEs will have more catches than Peek, like Dennis Pitta, BYU, or McCoy, SC. This award is wide open right now.

Is there a Freshman of the Yr? How about Trent Richardson, Bama RB? Not many 18 yr olds bring it like he does. Reminds me of Marshawn Lynch at Cal.

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The only defensive player to ever win the Heisman only won it because he also played on offense and special teams. Not to mention he probably wouldn't have won it if Peyton Manning didn't embarrass himself against Vanderbilt. Suh has a 0% chance.
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O'Brien - Keenum
I thought the thread was about projecting the winners...not personal (biased and skewed) opinion.

Jacory has done a great job so far this year but he'll need to dominate down the stretch to make the Heisman top 5. The VT game (weather/protection) is one that should be erased from voters memories but his 2 INTs against OU were inexcusable. 1st quarter prayer throws aren't what comes to mind when I think about the Heisman. There's always next year....

That goes for Michigan/Forcier fans as well.

Trent Richardson and Ryan Williams are 2 of the most impressive freshmen I've ever seen. Richardson hits the hole really hard and brings a ton of power (him, Ingram and Upchurch are scary). Williams is similar although not as powerful, but he's more experienced and more complete at this point.

I'd love to have either of them on the Bucs in a couple years...
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The Heisman isn't an award for the best player in the nation and it will never work out that way. The Heisman is an award for the media representative for the best teams. Many times the Heisman winner isn't even the best player on his team.
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Yeah I meant Biletnikoff.

Suh should win the Heisman.

Tyler Sash has superior stats to any safety this year to date.
If stats are what mattered, then Eric Berry would've won Thorpe last year instead of Malcolm Jenkins.

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The Heisman isn't an award for the best player in the nation and it will never work out that way. The Heisman is an award for the media representative for the best teams. Many times the Heisman winner isn't even the best player on his team.
"best player in the nation" is subjective too though. There's a myriad of different offensive systems within college football, not to mention that not everyone has the equal level of competition.
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"best player in the nation" is subjective too though. There's a myriad of different offensive systems within college football, not to mention that not everyone has the equal level of competition.
Hate to be a grammarian nazi, but myriad is an adjective not a noun. don't take my word for it, look it up.

I made that mistake as a college soph on an English ppr. & the prof Effed me for the error, one of our English Dept's ****** little rules. Never made that error again.
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