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What do people think is the best position for Shaq Thompson in the NFL

He has plenty of athleticism, and is a playmaker, but doesn't really have a standout position.

Is he best as a 4-3 WLB, SS or even RB?
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What do people think is the best position for Shaq Thompson in the NFL

He has plenty of athleticism, and is a playmaker, but doesn't really have a standout position.

Is he best as a 4-3 WLB, SS or even RB?
I'm actually glad to see this topic arise. I was waiting for the next podcast to throw this one in the loop. I would like to believe his draft stock is very valuable due to being a versatile defensive player. In the right situation he could benefit an already made defense.
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Definitely as a weakside linebacker in my opinion.
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Would you compare him to Telvin Smith?
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Could he play ILB in a 3-4 ala Ryan Shazier?
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Will LB in a 4-3. And I love him in the nickel. He can basically give a team a 3rd safety (or 6th DB) in the nickel. He can rush the passer, cover RBs out of the backfield, cover TEs in the slot, or play robber coverage with 3-deep zone behind him.

I'd compare him to Telvin Smith a lot. Smith has had a pretty good rookie year this year, but Shaq is better than him at every single thing. One of my favorite prospects and a top 10 player IMO.
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I definitely prefer Shaq Thompson as a linebacker.

I just think his skill set and playmaking ability is more special there than at safety.

EDIT: I like Michigan's Devin Funchess at TE over WR for the same reason.
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Will LB in a 4-3. And I love him in the nickel. He can basically give a team a 3rd safety (or 6th DB) in the nickel. He can rush the passer, cover RBs out of the backfield, cover TEs in the slot, or play robber coverage with 3-deep zone behind him.

I'd compare him to Telvin Smith a lot. Smith has had a pretty good rookie year this year, but Shaq is better than him at every single thing. One of my favorite prospects and a top 10 player IMO.
I don't think he's a better tackler. Shaq is overrated, IMO. He's made splash plays but he gets blocked easier than he should with his athletic ability. He's closer to a lighter Zach Brown to me.
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I definitely prefer Shaq Thompson as a linebacker.

I just think his skill set and playmaking ability is more special there than at safety.
Yep and RBs are a dime-a-dozen. I think it's a bigger advantage to have a (talented) LB with DB speed than it is to have a DB with LB size. If you are fortunate enough to have 3 great LBs and an Earl Thomas at FS, you can get away with Thompson at SS, but only 1 team has that.
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I don't think he's a better tackler. Shaq is overrated, IMO. He's made splash plays but he gets blocked easier than he should with his athletic ability. He's closer to a lighter Zach Brown to me.
You got me there. Smith definitely is a better tackler. Thompson has a better pedigree (more highly recruited out of HS) than Brown. I have no idea how Brown has done at the NFL level. I'm guessing that's not a good thing?
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You got me there. Smith definitely is a better tackler. Thompson has a better pedigree (more highly recruited out of HS) than Brown. I have no idea how Brown has done at the NFL level. I'm guessing that's not a good thing?
I think Brown was penciled in as a starter to start the year before getting injured. Super athletic but not as impact a guy as the ability would lead you to believe. That's where I see Thompson. And he plays back so much, along with his deficiencies at the los that I'd make him a ss.
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i'd play him at SS and use him like Seattle uses Kam Chancellor.
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Seattle's only able to use Chancellor like that because of their exceptional CBs, Earl Thomas and the Cover 3 scheme. Most defenses don't have the luxury of letting the SS just roam around the box. He's a linebacker.
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If you consider Shaq Thompson purely as a 4-3 WLB, how does that affect his value.

There are around 16 teams 4-3 who run 4-3 defences, how many will have a WLB top of their list of needs?
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If you consider Shaq Thompson purely as a 4-3 WLB, how does that affect his value.

There are around 16 teams 4-3 who run 4-3 defences, how many will have a WLB top of their list of needs?
He'd be thought of highly in Seattle (but no need), St Louis (Dont know if they are ready to get give up on Ogletree), Jacksonville, Tampa (David is one of the best so he won't be there), Carolina.

And I don't see any chance he plays ILB in a 3-4.
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If there are any similarities, how comparable is Shaq Thompson to Thomas Davis as a prospect?
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He'd be thought of highly in Seattle (but no need), St Louis (Dont know if they are ready to get give up on Ogletree), Jacksonville, Tampa (David is one of the best so he won't be there), Carolina.

And I don't see any chance he plays ILB in a 3-4.
With Telvin and Cyprien (not that he's been a stud or anything), where does he fit in Jacksonville?
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As a complete player he definitely looked his best IMO at RB but he really isn't suited to stay there. I don't think he would be right for every scheme but LB is probably best at a Joker sort of position.
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I think Brown was penciled in as a starter to start the year before getting injured. Super athletic but not as impact a guy as the ability would lead you to believe. That's where I see Thompson. And he plays back so much, along with his deficiencies at the los that I'd make him a ss.
Zach Brown has been extremely solid. He was the starter at 3-4 WILB until he tore his pec, and we've missed his mixture of speed and strength. Wesley Woodyard and Avery Williamson are always just a step behind when it comes to moving in space (although Williamson has shown promise as a rookie).

We all would have preferred Lavonte David, but Brown has certainly proven himself from his play at 4-3 WLB. Can't argue about his production with him averaging about 90 tackles, 5 sacks, and 2 INT's in his first two seasons.
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With matchup defense he will clearly have a roll.

This is his I'd use him;

SS in cover 3 systems, roll him into the box - zone blitz and play in space.

In sub packages I'd bring him in the box, with the ability to man up RBs in pressure packages.
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I feel he's a pure WLB in a 4-3 system, but he's to me the new age of football LB. His true value will be in nickle when he can play in space and run with RB's or TE's and close down the space on bubble screens. If you look at the top LB in the league now. Kuechly, Willis. Bowman, David, Wagner, Levy etc.. All the same kind of player. 6-1 and 230 to 240 can run. 4.5ish speed.

The new chase and tackle LB to me has to have a look of a jacked up SS.
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Now, I am seriously regretting to know that Jets have Calvin Pryor instead of either WR last year because Thompson will be awesome at SS for Jets.
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If there are any similarities, how comparable is Shaq Thompson to Thomas Davis as a prospect?
That has been my comparison all along.
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