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Old 03-07-2014, 09:46 AM    (permalink
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I recieved some good feedback on this list last year, so I am doing it again. Intelligent feedback is appreciated :) No kickers or punters, have not even looked into them yet. Enjoy!

Edit: To clarify, the positions listed are the positions I think the players will be best suited to play in the NFL.

2014 Rankings
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QB
1 – Blake Bortles (QB – U.C.F.)
Grade: Top 10
2 – Teddy Bridgewater (QB – Louisville)
Grade: Top 10
3 – Zach Mettenberger (QB – L.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – Johnny Manziel (QB – Texas A & M)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – A.J. McCarron (QB – Alabama)
Grade: 2nd Round
6 – Jimmy Garoppolo (QB – E. Illinois)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – Derek Carr (QB – Fresno St.)
Grade: 2nd Round
8 – Aaron Murray (QB – Georgia)
Grade: 4th Round
9 – David Fales (QB – San Jose St.)
Grade: 4th Round
10 – Logan Thomas (QB – Virginia Tech.)
Grade: 6th Round

RB
1 – Jeremy Hill (RB – L.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
2 – Bishop Sankey (RB – Washington)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Tre Mason (RB – Auburn)
Grade: 2nd Round
4 – Carlos Hyde (RB – O.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round
5 – Andre Williams (RB – B.C.)
Grade: 3rd Round
6 – Lache Seastrunk (RB – Baylor)
Grade: 3rd Round
7 – Charles Sims (RB – W. Virginia)
Grade: 3rd Round
8 – Ka’Deem Carey (RB – Arizona)
Grade: 3rd Round
9 – Jerick McKinnon (RB – Georgia Southern)
Grade: 3rd Round
10 – Storm Johnson (RB – U.C.F.)
Grade: 4th


WR
1 – Sammy Watkins (WR – Clemson)
Grade: #1 Pick
2 – Mike Evans (WR – Texas A & M)
Grade: Top 10
3- Donte Moncrief (WR – Ole. Miss.)
Grade: Top 20
4 – Marquise Lee (WR – U.S.C.)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – Jarvis Landry (WR – L.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
6 – Odell Beckham (WR – L.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
7 – Brandon Cooks (WR – Oregon St.)
Grade: 1st Round
8 – Martavis Bryant (WR – Clemson)
Grade: 2nd Round
9 – Kelvin Benjamin (WR – F.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round
10 – Davante Adams (WR – Freson St.)
Grade: 2nd Round

TE
1 – Eric Ebron (TE – U.N.C.)
Grade: Top 20
2 – Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TE – Washington)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Troy Niklas (TE – Notre Dame)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – C.J. Fiedorowicz (TE – Iowa)
Grade: 2nd Round
5 – Jace Amano (TE – Texas Tech.)
Grade: 3rd Round

LT
1 – Jake Matthews (LT – Texas A & M)
Grade: #1 Pick
2 – Greg Robinson (LT – Auburn)
Grade: Top 5
3 – Taylor Lewan (LT – Michigan)
Grade: Top 10
4 – Morgan Moses (LT – Virginia)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – Antonio Richardson (LT – Tennesse)
Grade: 2nd Round
6 – Brandon Thomas (LT – Clemson)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – Billy Turner (LT – N. Dakota St.)
Grade: 3rd Round
8 – Seantrel Henderson (LT – Miami)
Grade: 3rd Round
9 – Ja’Wuan James (LT – Tennessee)
Grade: 3rd Round
10 – Cyrus Kouandjio (LT – Alabama)
Grade: 4th Round

RT
1 – Antonio Richardson (RT – Tennessee)
Grade: 1st Round
2 – Morgan Moses (RT – Virginia)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Seantrel Henderson (RT – Miami)
Grade: 2nd Round
4 – Cameron Fleming (RT – Stanford)
Grade: 2nd Round
5 – Jack Mewhort (RT – O.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round
6 – Ju’Wuan James (RT – Tennessee)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – James Hurst (RT – U.N.C.)
Grade: 3rd Round
8 – Michael Schofield (RT – Michigan)
Grade: 4th Round
9 – Matt Patchan (RT – B.C.)
Grade: 4th Round
10 – Cyrus Kouandjio (RT – Alabama)
Grade:4th Round

G
1 – Zach Martin (G – Notre Dame)
Grade: Top 20
2 – David Yankey (G – Stanford)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Xavier Su’a-Filo (G – U.C.L.A.)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – Gabe Jackson (G – Miss. St.)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – Cyril Richardson (G – Baylor)
Grade: 2nd Round
6 – Dakota Dozier (G – Furman)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – Joel Bitonio (G – Nevada)
Grade: 2nd Round
8 – Chris Watt (G – Notre Dame)
Grade: 3rd Round
9 – Anthony Steen (G – Alabama)
Grade: 3rd Round
10 – Ryan Groy (G – Wisconsin)
Grade: 4th Round

C
1 – Marcus Martin (C – U.S.C.)
Grade: 1st Round
2 – Travis Swanson (C – Arkansas)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Weston Richburg (C – Colorado St.)
Grade: 2nd Round
4 – Tyler Larson (C – Utah St.)
Grade: 4th Round
5 – Bryan Stork (C – F.S.U.)
Grade: 5th Round

43 DE
1 – Jadeveon Clowney (DE – S. Carolina)
Grade: #1
2 – Kony Ealy (DE – Mizzu)
Grade: Top 20
3 – Scott Crichton (DE – Oregon St.)
Grade: 2nd Round
4 – Kadeem Martin (DE – U.N.C.)
Grade: 2nd Round
5 – Chris Smith (DE – Arkansas)
Grade: 3rd Round

34 DE
1 – Stephon Tuitt (DE – Notre Dame)
Grade: 1st Round
2 – Ra’Shede Hageman (DE – Minnesota)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Dominique Easley (DE – Florida)
Grade: 2nd Round
4 – Will Sutton (DE – Arizona St.)
Grade: 4th Round
5 – Ed Stinson (DE – Alabama)
Grade: 4th Round

DT
1 – Aaron Donald (DT – Pitt.)
Grade: Top 10
2 – Ra’Shede Hageman (DT – Minnesota)
Grade: Top 20
3 – Louis Nix (NT/DT – Notre Dame)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – Timmy Jernigan (DT – F.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – Stephon Tuitt (DT – Notre Dame)
Grade: 1st Round
6 – Caraun Reid (DT – Princeton)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – Kelcy Quarles (DT – S. Carolina)
Grade: 2nd Round
8 – DaQuan Jones (DT – Penn St.)
Grade: 2nd Round
9 – Dominique Easley (DT – Florida)
Grade: 2nd Round
10 – Anthony Johnson (DT – L.S.U.)
Grade: 3rd Round

ILB
1 – C.J. Mosley (ILB – Alabama)
Grade: 1st Round
2 – Chris Borland (ILB – Wisconsin)
Grade: 2nd Round
3 – Yawin Smallwood (ILB – U. Conn.)
Grade: 3rd Round
4 – Shayne Skov (ILB – Stanford)
Grade: 3rd Round
5 – Max Bullough (ILB – Michigan St.)
Grade: 4th Round

34 OLB
1 – Khalil Mack (OLB – Buffalo)
Grade: Top 5
2 – Anthony Barr (OLB – U.C.L.A.)
Grade: Top 10
3 – Kyle Van Noy (OLB – B.Y.U.)
Grade: Top 20
4 – Dee Ford (OLB – Auburn)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – Kony Ealy (OLB – Mizzu)
Grade: 1st Round
6 – Trent Murphy (OLB – Stanford)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – Carl Bradford (OLB – Arizona St.)
Grade: 2nd Round
8 – Trevor Reilly (OLB – Utah)
Grade: 2nd Round
9 – Jackson Jeffcoat (OLB – Texas)
Grade: 3rd Round
10 – Arthur Lynch (OLB – S. Florida)
Grade: 4th Round

43 OLB
1 – Khalil Mack (OLB – Buffalo)
Grade: Top 5
2 – Kyle Van Noy (OLB – B.Y.U.)
Grade: 1st Round3
3 – Ryan Shazier (OLB – O.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – Kevin Pierre-Louis (OLB – B.C.)
Grade: 2nd Round
5 – Telvin Smith (OLB – Florida State)
Grade: 3rd Rond
6 – Christian Kirksey (OLB – Iowa)
Grade: 3rd Round

CB
1 – Darqueze Dennard (CB – Michigan St.)
Grade: Top 10
2 – Justin Gilbert (CB – Oklahoma St.)
Grade: Top 20
3 – Jason Verrett (CB – T.C.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – Kyle Fuller (DB – Virginia Tech)
Grade: 2nd Round
5 – E.J. Gaines (CB – Mizzu)
Grade: 2nd Round
6 – Pierre Desir (CB – Linewood)
Grade: 2nd Round
7 – Jaylen Watkins (CB – Florida)
Grade: 2nd Round
8 – Bashaud Breeland (DB – Clemson)
Grade: 2nd Round
9 – Stanley Jean-Baptiste (CB – Nebraska)
Grade: 2nd Rond
10 – Bradly Roby (CB/FS – O.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

FS
1 –Hasean Clinton-Dix (FS – Alabama)
Grade: Top 20
2 – Deonne Bucannon (FS – Washington St.)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Bradly Roby (FS – O.S.U.)
Grade: 1st Round
4 – Jimmie Ward (FS – N. Illinois)
Grade: 1st Round
5 – Lamarcus Joyner (FS/CB – F.S.U.)
Grade: 2nd Round

SS
1 – Calvin Pryor (SS – Louisville)
Grade: Top 20
2 – Deonne Bucannon (SS – Washington St.)
Grade: 1st Round
3 – Ed Reynolds (SS – Stanford)
Grade: 2nd Round
4 – Ahmad Dixon (SS – Baylor)
Grade: 3rd Round
5 - Craig Loston (SS – L.S.U.)
Grade: 3rd Round
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i don't see any way that logan thomas is a top 10 qb prospect. he's terrible at qb. he needs to make a position change even faster than tebow did. i'd go so far as to say that i don't think there's a single thing that he does well, in terms of being a quarterback rather than an athlete.

i agree that carr isn't really first round material, even though he'll go first round.
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i don't see any way that logan thomas is a top 10 qb prospect. he's terrible at qb. he needs to make a position change even faster than tebow did. i'd go so far as to say that i don't think there's a single thing that he does well, in terms of being a quarterback rather than an athlete.

i agree that carr isn't really first round material, even though he'll go first round.
I agree with you on Thomas, and was one of the guys way too high on him last year. I have him there, because I think with the right coach and probably 3 years of working with him there is potential. I dont know if he will ever have "it", intangibles or the "between the ears" thing, but he has all the physical tools you could want in a QB and cant coach.
I think he's worth a late round flyer if you think your QB coach or whomever can develop him. Worst case, you change him back to a TE and work with him there, unlike Tebow I think he is more receptive to that possibility. Hence the ranking, 6th rounder rarely pan out, and I would take him around that time to see what happnens, that how I came to that grade. I see some Josh Freeman similarities, who I was not high on coming out, and I dont think right now Thomas is even that good, but again having things you cant coach, he is worth a late round flyer IMO.

As for Carr, it would not surprise me at all if he went first round either, but it wouldnt shock me with the depth in this class if he he goes 3rd round either. I wouldnt reach for him, but I could easliy see someone doing so. Vikes at 8... I-I-I..
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Your offensive rankings are very similar to mine. I don't have Mettenberger that high, but I do have Carr 6th or 7th. And I do like Moses and Seantrel. Not really impressed with any of the RBs aside from like 3 or 4.

Not really a fan of Bryant at wideout, or Cyril at guard though. And haven't watched the defense enough to really make a remark.

Also, love the EJ Gaines love. I know he hasn't done **** this offseason to help his draft stock, but dude is a great corner.
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I'd have Joe Bitonio around 5th in your OT rankings. Also would have Jeff Janis somewhere in those WR rankings. Not sure how anyone with 4.36 speed at 219lbs can be ignored like that. That in itself should get 100 posts.
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I'd have Joe Bitonio around 5th in your OT rankings. Also would have Jeff Janis somewhere in those WR rankings. Not sure how anyone with 4.36 speed at 219lbs can be ignored like that. That in itself should get 100 posts.
Totally agree on Bitonio. But I do think he's best suited at guard.
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Totally agree on Bitonio. But I do think he's best suited at guard.
Not sure why that would be as he's extremely athletic for a tackle. My only question would be left or right side. Interest there for the Rams?
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Why do you have will sutton as a 34 DE? That is not his game at all
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You have a lot of players out of position. You also have 40+ players going in the first round too.
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I don't see why you don't have Khalil Mack listed under 4-3 OLBs at all. He can cover in space well and on passing situations you can have him rush the QB standing up ala Von Miller.
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You have a lot of players out of position. You also have 40+ players going in the first round too.
Well I think there are more than 32 players that should get 1st round grades.

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Without you justifying your selections, I cannot accept a lot of these rankings.
Without some analysis, just looks like you took everybody else's list and moved them around a bit so you could be different. You don't have to analyze everybody, just the ones where you differ from the norm. It needs to be explained.
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I can't wait until Marqise Lee makes many a'person look stupid.
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Your offensive rankings are very similar to mine. I don't have Mettenberger that high, but I do have Carr 6th or 7th. And I do like Moses and Seantrel. Not really impressed with any of the RBs aside from like 3 or 4.

Not really a fan of Bryant at wideout, or Cyril at guard though. And haven't watched the defense enough to really make a remark.

Also, love the EJ Gaines love. I know he hasn't done **** this offseason to help his draft stock, but dude is a great corner.
I think people are really sleeping on Mettenberger, mostly because of his injury at he end of the year. I dont see it affecting him long term as running is not part of his game. Guy can make all the throws, flurished in a pro passing system, and if the defense at LSU had not been so young and inexperienced they would have competed for a national championship and he'd be getting a lot more talk.

I like Bryant at wideout and his potential is high, he needs to refine alot of things that are coachable, and playing 2nd fiddle to Watkins has him lost on a lot of boards, he has Randy Moss type potential IMO. Cyril is taking alot of heat, I need to do my 2nd take on him, I might be blind on him based on my initial thoughts.

I think Gaines is a gamer, might not be a practice guy, but I think he has NFL potential and I guy I would take in the 2nd in most drafts, I could see him falling into the 3rd or 4th and being a starter/steal at that point. Agree about not doing **** to help himself this offseason, but I still like him alot.
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I'd have Joe Bitonio around 5th in your OT rankings. Also would have Jeff Janis somewhere in those WR rankings. Not sure how anyone with 4.36 speed at 219lbs can be ignored like that. That in itself should get 100 posts.
I have Bitonio as a guard at the next level, I think he could play tackle if needed to, but his long term success at the next level will be guard IMO. I see him very similarly to the way I see Zach Martin. Thus the omission on the tackle lists.

I have Janis as my #16 WR and a third round value, he has moved up significantly since I started watching him. I like him alot. This is just a top ten/five list I put out to get some feedback, I think in last years draft he is on this list.

I am not sure what 100 posts are? I am not ignoring him, I just think this draft is that deep, I think he'll be one of the numerous quality players picked in the 3rd or 4th, even 5th round who can play in the NFL. Its not a knock on him, nor am I intentionally ignoring him. I would love to have him in Buffalo over several of the guys here who were on the field last year.
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Totally agree on Bitonio. But I do think he's best suited at guard.
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Not sure why that would be as he's extremely athletic for a tackle. My only question would be left or right side. Interest there for the Rams?
No question he is athletic, and has the feet to handle the tackle spot, my worries come with arm length. I have down as 33', I'll double check the official length in the next month or so when I go back and double check/cross reference the verified numbers and measurements. The short arms are the major reason I have down as a guard. He reminds me of Andy Levitre coming out, and like Levitre I think his better days in the NFL are guard. Like Levitre I think he could play tackle if needed, but his long term success IMO is at Guard.
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Why do you have will sutton as a 34 DE? That is not his game at all
IMO that is the direction he is heading in. The weight concerns, the body type have him going in a Glen Dorsey direction faster than Dorsey himself went in the 34 direction. Buy that is just my opinion, last year I would not have thought that at all.

A couple reasons why, since putting on the weight he has lost alot of his quickness IMO. Unless he loses it, he is going to have to do something else. IMO his short stature and strength are ideal in holding up at the POA, his ability to rip and shed while holding at the POA IMO would make him an ideal 3 tech in a 34 defense, especially when I factor in his girth. I think his instincts and feel for the game would be asset more in that respect than in a 43 defense as an under, which I dont think he would be as good at. I still have him on my 43 DT list, he is just down near the 15-20 range, which I am working out now. I could see him fitting the Dorsey and/or Kyle Williams role in a 34 defense at DE.
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You have a lot of players out of position. You also have 40+ players going in the first round too.
Which players?

Those are my grades for those guys at the postions I have them in. I have I think 49 guys with 1st round grades, obviously (or not so obviously) 40+ guys can not go in the first round as there are only 32 picks in that round. That is mathamatically impossible.... I think this draft is so deep that in the second round you can get first round talents, that is all the grades are about. I also think Clowney, Matthews and Watkins could all go #1, and I would be comfortable taking either of them #1 as I feel Clowney is that talented (character/love for the game questions aside), Matthews and Watkins games are at that point and are that clean and talented of prospects.
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Well I think there are more than 32 players that should get 1st round grades.

Oh and from now on, Bortles will forever be called Brain.
Yes I also think there are more than 32 players who should have 1st Round grades.

Lol, wow, thanks for pointing that out. A lot of editing, copying and pasting, apparently I missed had an accident and overlooked it, as his name was correct on all my other lists... IDK.
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I don't see why you don't have Khalil Mack listed under 4-3 OLBs at all. He can cover in space well and on passing situations you can have him rush the QB standing up ala Von Miller.
You are absolutely right IMO, a complete oversight on my part. One of the reason's I like putting this list out. I will fix it, thank you for that. +rep
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I have Bitonio as a guard at the next level, I think he could play tackle if needed to, but his long term success at the next level will be guard IMO. I see him very similarly to the way I see Zach Martin. Thus the omission on the tackle lists.

I have Janis as my #16 WR and a third round value, he has moved up significantly since I started watching him. I like him alot. This is just a top ten/five list I put out to get some feedback, I think in last years draft he is on this list.

I am not sure what 100 posts are? I am not ignoring him, I just think this draft is that deep, I think he'll be one of the numerous quality players picked in the 3rd or 4th, even 5th round who can play in the NFL. Its not a knock on him, nor am I intentionally ignoring him. I would love to have him in Buffalo over several of the guys here who were on the field last year.

NFL.com had Bitonio's arm length at 33 7/8ths. Not an issue.

Agree on janis. 3rd or 4th seems right. Heard there was interest from Denver. The 100 post comment was a reference to another post. Please ignore.
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Which players?
Jackson Jeffcoat as a 3-4 OLB
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Deone Buchannon as a FS
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Arthur Lynch, OLB South Florida????

Also, no love for Christian Jones, FSU LB?

I do like the props given to Caraun Reid. He and Greg Robinson are the only players I saw this year that made me say, "damn" out loud and I didn't even know who they were at the time. It looked like Ivy League teams were scheming to triple team Reid at the point of attack.
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Without you justifying your selections, I cannot accept a lot of these rankings.
Without some analysis, just looks like you took everybody else's list and moved them around a bit so you could be different. You don't have to analyze everybody, just the ones where you differ from the norm. It needs to be explained.
Im going to take as relaxed a position on that B.S. statement you made here, the same as I did when you told me The Bills did not bring back Jason Peters in FREE AGENCY...

Tell me which players, and I will justify to you why I have__________ rated above __________. Most of my notes are hand written when I watch games, so re-typing them out is just something I do not have time for (period).

I did do that a couple years ago, and the ONLY feedback was this: "I dont have the time to read all of that." or some version, so since then I pretty much go a la carte in a condensed manor, unless I am having a rational conversation with someone and it requires more.

So which ever ones you think deviate from the norm, let me know, because to me, they do not deviate from my norm. I do not put names on a dart board close my eyes and end up with ranking to be "different". Honestly I really could care less. Yes I had Derrick Sherrod as my #1 T a couple years ago, and yes I was just as high on Jason Smith and Trent Richardson in thier drafts as everyone else. Not to be different or the same, because I thought that after watching them play and reading numerous different opinions/scouting reports on those players.

Note: I do this as a hobby really, and to talk football (mostly draft) and get different opinions on things, not getting paid to do so, or having time to do as much with it as I would love to do.
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I thought the list was well done. At least provoked some discussion.

As for people wanting that and more, I missed the part where you said you were getting paid for this stuff.
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