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Old 03-19-2010, 04:02 PM    (permalink
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Even if that were true, which I don't think it is, Eddie George is nothing more than Toby Gerhart? I think not
Who said Eddie George is nothing more than Toby Gerhart? That doesn't even make ******* sense.

And yes, Eddie George is one of the most overrated players in the history of football. If you needed 3 yards, he could get you 3 yards. If you needed 6 yards, he'd still get you 3.

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Tim tebow = Steve McNair

i know this may sound stupid but after he is developped i think he is that type of quarterback he is that strong play with cracked rib quarterback who will play his tail off to help his team. back when McNair was playing his teammates knew he wouldn't quit. if tebow can sit and watch a good qb play that's the qb he will mostly be like. And I'm not some tebow lover i hate Florida but i think the has what it takes to play. people had all this to say about Steve young and Vince young when they were coming out look what the right coach did for them. Steve Superbowl mvp and and stay what you will about Vince but the kid is a winner always have been. i wish bill Walsh was still around he would be perfect for Tebow.

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Tim tebow = Steve McNair

i know this may sound stupid but after he is developped i think he is that type of quarterback he is that strong play with cracked rib quarterback who will play his tail off to help his team. back when McNair was playing his teammates knew he wouldn't quit. if tebow can sit and watch a good qb play that's the qb he will mostly be like. And I'm not some tebow lover i hate Florida but i think the has what it takes to play. people had all this to say about Steve young and Vince young when they were coming out look what the right coach did for them. Steve Superbowl mvp and and stay what you will about Vince but the kid is a winner always have been. i wish bill Walsh was steve around he would be perfect for Tebow.
You know, that's actually the better comparisons I've heard.
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Eddie early in his career before the toe injuries was a lot more than a guy who could only get you 3 or 4 yards every carry. Second half of his career unfortunately that's all he could do. Eddie was one of the best backs in the league in the late '90s when they had McNair and Mason and went to the Super Bowl.
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Eddie early in his career before the toe injuries was a lot more than a guy who could only get you 3 or 4 yards every carry.
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4.1, 3.9, 3.7, and 4.1 were his first four seasons. 4.1 was his best-ever ypc. 4.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You know, that's actually the better comparisons I've heard.
i actually just Googled old Steve McNair and watched him throw aside defenders didn't McNair sit behind moon. before he played.
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when you carry the ball 400 times in a season and you are a great short yardage back, your YPC isn't gonna be that high. Plus we all know Eddie was never a guy who broke the big long runs in the NFL to skew his average like Tomlinson and Barry and all those fast backs. Eddie didn't have that many 20+ yard runs.
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when you carry the ball 400 times in a season and you are a great short yardage back, your YPC isn't gonna be that high. Plus we all know Eddie was never a guy who broke the big long runs in the NFL to skew his average like Tomlinson and Barry and all those fast backs. Eddie didn't have that many 20+ yard runs.
Yep. Only 37 carries of 20+ yards, and only 4 40+ yard runs. That's out of close to three thousand carries.
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i actually just Googled old Steve McNair and watched him throw aside defenders didn't McNair sit behind moon. before he played.
Physically, it's not a perfect comparison as McNair had a cannon of an arm, but from a psychological standpoint I get it. Both have the mental toughness, though McNair's went unnoticed until much later. I remember when McNair put up jawdropping numbers and was drafted out of the crazyass SWAC. Jamarcus Russell type arm, and a good runner, too, but no idea what to do with those skills. Alcorn State's draw routes in the dirt offense was light years behind what was and is done in the NFL. If you think the spread is poor preperation for the pros... But that was a different era, too, when most raw QB's were handed a clipboard for three years before given the keys. Now, it's quite literally a whole different ballgame. Owners (and fans) are less patient now and expect near immediate production from high salaried draft picks. Like McNair, he won't be expected to produce quick dividends, but unlike McNair he'll have to mature a little quicker relying on his brain more than his arm.
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Brian Price = Sed Ellis/Broderick Bunkley/More explosive Brandon Mebane
Price is more of a penetrator than Bunk but has that similar great upper body strength in a squat package. I think it's safe to expect a more explosive Brandon Mebane.

Dan Williams = Pat Williams/Domata Peko
He's a little more quick than Pat Williams is at this point but he has that type of massive wall power to his game. He might be a little bigger than Peko but their games are very similar.

Jared Odrick = Marcus Stroud
I'm probably reaching on this, Stroud in his prime was dominant at a level I don't think Odrick is likely to ever reach but the potential is there. Both are very long and quick although Stroud's more powerful than Odrick, the hands are there to. I'm iffy on this one.

Lamarr Houston = less powerful Jay Ratliff
Another pick I'm not sure fits since Ratliff is quite a bit more powerful than Houston is but athletically Houston shoots out just as quick as Ratliff and is already a pretty strong guy.
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Im starting to feel Montario Hardestys running style is very similar to Ryan Grants.
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Lamarr Houston is Ziggy Hood 2.0.

Smaller, quicker guys. Energzer bunny's, with relentless motors. Great hand fighting and will simply wear down bigger OG's. Good range and both have the ability to play inside, or outside (3-4).

Last year Houston would have been a 1st rounder for sure.
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Smaller, quicker guys. Energzer bunny's, with relentless motors. Great hand fighting and will simply wear down bigger OG's. Good range and both have the ability to play inside, or outside (3-4).

Last year Houston would have been a 1st rounder for sure.
Yeah, that's better than Ratliff. I like Houston a lot more as a penetrator than Hood though. He shoots out quicker and lower and does a better job moving sideways.
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so nice that he should be a second rounder.
I have him higher than Dwyer.

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I think Dunn was a lot tougher, better inside runner than James will be.
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If James is going to be compared to anyone during the predraft process it will be Darren Sproles.
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No, no, no and no. I really wish people would stop comparing every small running back to Darren Sproles. First of all, Darren Sproles was well-known to be an absolute beast in the weight room at K-State. Secondly, he WAS K-State's offense. He was a power-runner, not a gimmicky juke-ya runner in a spread, where it seems like any half-competent back can average 5 yards a pop. Thirdly, LaMichael is a skinny 5'8", 5'9" 180-ish. He looks frail even in college, and he always looks like he's going to get his legs shredded when he goes pirouetting through the LOS. Darren Sproles is short, yeah, but he's built like a tank and he's a very decisive runner. Sprole's size means he can't truck whoever he wants, but I don't think LaMichael wants to truck anyone. They have totally different running styles, their builds are a lot different, and the offenses they played in are a lot different. Besides being "undersized," there's really not that much to compare between Sproles and James.
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Baylor's Kendall Wright = Steve Smith (Carolina Panther)
This is the comparison I would throw out. I kinda dislike comparing players at all, but Kendall Wright is eerily similar to Steve Smith. They're about the same size, and they're both guys who have a lot of speed and "play bigger" than their actual size. They're both tough, fast and have good hands. And they both have that suddenness to their play that's invaluable both when running with the ball and running routes trying to get open. Another thing I've mentioned in another thread is that both of these guys use their speed really aggressively; they're small, so you know they could take some big hits, but they hit even small creases really hard - those can end up being some huge plays, when you've got a receiver who's got both the speed and the balls to accelerate between a safety and a linebacker, and make it out the other side to where he's got open field in front of him, as opposed to juking around trying not to get hit.
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No, no, no and no. I really wish people would stop comparing every small running back to Darren Sproles. First of all, Darren Sproles was well-known to be an absolute beast in the weight room at K-State. Secondly, he WAS K-State's offense. He was a power-runner, not a gimmicky juke-ya runner in a spread, where it seems like any half-competent back can average 5 yards a pop. Thirdly, LaMichael is a skinny 5'8", 5'9" 180-ish. He looks frail even in college, and he always looks like he's going to get his legs shredded when he goes pirouetting through the LOS. Darren Sproles is short, yeah, but he's built like a tank and he's a very decisive runner. Sprole's size means he can't truck whoever he wants, but I don't think LaMichael wants to truck anyone. They have totally different running styles, their builds are a lot different, and the offenses they played in are a lot different. Besides being "undersized," there's really not that much to compare between Sproles and James.

i know plenty about Sproles. I am not saying James is a Sproles clone or anything like that. I am saying though that he will draw Sproles comparisons b/c he is very short, very fast, and not that heavy either. He won't get Mo Drew comparisons b/c Mo Drew is a bull at over 210 lbs. and a power runner. Sproles is not a great between the tackles runner (though he has more power than James) and an electric receiver/returner. James is a little taller than Sproles thus a little skinnier, but point is he will draw comparisons b/c of similar size and speed and playmaking ability. James should provide a similar role in the NFL as well.
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