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Old 10-16-2009, 07:54 PM    (permalink
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They like Jay Cutler! :)

WHAT THE ****. AM I OFF MY GAME SO MUCH THAT I AM ALWAYS BEATEN TO THE PUNCH!?!?!?!

**** it. **** it all.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:58 PM    (permalink
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**** it. **** it all.
lol, it's definitely true though. I mean, theirs a chance that they would have used both of the 1st round picks they gave up for Cutler on monster players that could be corner stones of their team for the next 10 years...

But there is also a chance that both are busts and the bears are stuck without a QB for 10 more years. The safer, although a little bit pricey decision was to trade for Cutler and solidify the most important position in football for the next decade.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:59 PM    (permalink
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lol, it's definitely true though. I mean, theirs a chance that they would have used both of the 1st round picks they gave up for Cutler on monster players that could be corner stones of their team for the next 10 years...

But there is also a chance that both are busts and the bears are stuck without a QB for 10 more years. The safer, although a little bit pricey decision was to trade for Cutler and solidify the most important position in football for the next decade.
the last QB and RB we picked in the first round were Grossman and Benson, so yea Cutler is nicer
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Good trade for the Bucs. They trade a chronic underachiever for a 2nd round pick in a deep draft.
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This is a classic Dan Snyder move, but no Dan Snyder!
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the last QB and RB we picked in the first round were Grossman and Benson, so yea Cutler is nicer
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speaking of cumslingers... how's he doing in texas?
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I like this trade. Ogunleye is on the last year of his contract and we need to replace him. Adams may have had some questions about his effort, but he had no help around him at Tampa. This could be a breaker for us. We have young talent at the defensive line, we just need them to develop and come together.
We probably would've drafted a defensive end in the second round anyway, so this works.
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the last QB and RB we picked in the first round were Grossman and Benson, so yea Cutler is nicer
Benson > Forte.
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I would not wanna be the one on the hook for 4 more years of that $42 million contract.
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Mega bust Ryan Sims, still in the league? Chris Hovan, and Jimmy Wilkerson (who has 5! sacks this year).
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truly ask that yourself.
If that was the only problem with Adams, they could simply draft Suh or McCoy in April and help him out and make their DLine an obvious strength.

Evidently, the problems for Adams go deeper than simply being the only guy worth a damn.
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Bengals Oline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revolving door >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bears Oline > lions Oline

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If that was the only problem with Adams, they could simply draft Suh or McCoy in April and help him out and make their DLine an obvious strength.

Evidently, the problems for Adams go deeper than simply being the only guy worth a damn.

Thing is, motivating a player by showing that your team is utterly bad and prolly going to be rebuilding is not a great motivator.

besides that, the bucs have a lot more holes than that
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Bengals Oline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revolving door >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bears Oline > lions Oline
Raiola's above average and Gos is improving!
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Kreutz > Raiola and Williams = Gos i guess
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BOOSH!

i'll take a known commodity for a second round pick.
you'll take a known disappointment over a 2nd round pick?
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I can see why the Bears did this, but they gave up way too much for Adams.

Adams could thrive in Chicago under Lovie and Rod, but in a draft class that will be deep at pass rusher and other areas of need for this team, I think a 2nd rounder is way too much to give up for a guy who has been a major disappointment in the NFL.

I wasn't a big Adams fan coming out, I think he can be solid, but I don't think he'll ever live up to the billing of being a #4 pick in the draft. He was never good enough to warrant being a top 10 pick.
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Well Gaines Adams has disappointed like I thought he would, but he still ended up better than Jamal Anderson, who I thought would be the player Tuck has become.
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IF, a big IF, the 42 mil. dead weight does soemthing then it will be a good trade. Right now on paper, it sucks. Proven commodity? Am on the the floors of the Chicago Exchange representing the Dukes selling buffalo pellets?
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Not a mind blowing trade for either side, the Bears get a player with a monstrous salary, doesn't get a consistent pass rush and is a HUGE liability against the run which will come back to bite them when they play the Vikings.

And the Bucs have basically said that Adams is a bust and they wasted a top 5 pick and the probably just lost their best defensive lineman which isn't saying much.
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I thought Anderson would be good too. Im disappointed in him.

For those that think Gaines Adams issues were bc he had no help on the dline, just watch him play. The guy's issues go far beyond help along that line. Theres a reason why he was almost benched this year.

I bet Tampa popped champagne bottles when they made the trade. Rod has a lot of work to do with this guy. For his sake, hopefully the trade energizes him and he tries to resurrect his career.
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Yeah Jared Allen had the shittiest of D Line's ever and did something. Gaines has NO MOTOR. It doesn't seem he wants ot be out there. I don't care who the **** is on your team, if YOU don't try thats on you.
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Not a mind blowing trade for either side, the Bears get a player with a monstrous salary, doesn't get a consistent pass rush and is a HUGE liability against the run which will come back to bite them when they play the Vikings.

And the Bucs have basically said that Adams is a bust and they wasted a top 5 pick and the probably just lost their best defensive lineman which isn't saying much.
Gaines AdamsDefensive Lineman7/26/2007: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal includes $18.56 million guaranteed. Another $4 million is available through incentives. 2009: $900,000, 2010: $1.08 million, 2011: $1.1 million, 2012: $1.15 million, 2013: Free Agent

Man youre right.

Not sure how were gonna manage that big $1.15 mil come 2012....
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