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Old 09-22-2010, 01:51 AM    (permalink
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people can say they didn't think McFadden would pan out because he had skinny legs and they go dead on contact, but he still tore up the SEC more so than any running back in recent memory on an average team. As a prosepct he was special and it's not hard to believe that people liked him more than Peterson if you forget about what you know about each of them now.

Mike Mayock was trying to bring McFadden down so much leading up to the draft. At one point he showed a clip of him running for a td with chad jones gaining on him and he said the player gaining on him was lb Ali Highsmith, trying to make the point that he can't be that fast if an lb who runs 4.9 is gaining on him.


That's what made him overrated. He has excellent speed but lacks wiggle, agility, COD, etc...

SEC honks hyped him too much. I'd pick J-stew over him now, or back at the draft.
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That's what made him overrated. He has excellent speed but lacks wiggle, agility, COD, etc...

SEC honks hyped him too much. I'd pick J-stew over him now, or back at the draft.
He had an incredible burst and because of that good COD skills, which is very similar to agility and wiggle... He lacked thick legs and AD's power, but he was a more complete Reggie Bush back there, except he did it all with just Felix Jones, another guy at his position, to help.
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I agree that he lacked and still lacks any kinds of open field shake. I thought the same about AP not realizing that he just hadn't brought that out yet. Before he made kenoy kennedy's knees slam together with that juke I didn't know he had those and thought the same might be true about mcfadden.
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He had an incredible burst and because of that good COD skills, which is very similar to agility and wiggle... He lacked thick legs and AD's power, but he was a more complete Reggie Bush back there, except he did it all with just Felix Jones, another guy at his position, to help.
Burst doesnt mean agility or wiggle...it means burst (or acceleration). McFadden's a stiff compared to AD, and no, he didn't change directions well. He outran people in straightlines.
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Burst doesnt mean agility or wiggle...it means burst (or acceleration). McFadden's a stiff compared to AD, and no, he didn't change directions well. He outran people in straightlines.
Eh, McFadden exploded out of some cuts at just nasty speeds, so I don't think it matters what you want to call it. He was very adept at using his ability to take off to leave defenders hopeless.
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Darren McFadden, when healthy, is awesome. I hope he can keep it up.
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Don't worry he will probably get injured in a few weeks.
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McFadden is 1 of 2 NFL players who have 120+ yds from scrimmage in all 3 games & 1 of 3 over 425 total from scrimmage. He also is 3rd in NFL in rushing yds & is only RB w/ over 90 yds in all 3 games
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When is he going to break down?
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3 games in and not any problems yet. So hopefully he wont
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Very glad I picked up darren mcfadden in my fantasy league, I'm 3-0, in large part to his success
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No it hasn't. Reggie Bush is still hurt and waiting for his breakout season.
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No it hasn't. Reggie Bush is still hurt and waiting for his breakout season.
I drafted Bush over McFadden in a league this year.
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I think McFadden's recent success shows that his problem wasn't a thin lower body, it was having a thin lower body + not keeping his pad level down. In his game against the Rams where he put up 145 and was giving defenders real big shots when they took him down, Jon Lynch was commenting how high McFadden had run when he entered the league and that he looked completely different.

To be fair, McFadden still won't run through tons of tackles, but he's breaking more arm tackles and is cutting way better (that's probably more to do with having healthy legs rather than a pad level thing).
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That's what made him overrated. He has excellent speed but lacks wiggle, agility, COD, etc...

SEC honks hyped him too much. I'd pick J-stew over him now, or back at the draft.
^This. **** the stats, McFadden is still sub par. A high caliber back in Oakland would be leading the league in rushing.
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Cuz McFadden is still not that good, yet statistically having a strong season start. Put a top caliber back like Bradshaw or B.Wells in there and figure what would happen.
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Cuz McFadden is still not that good, yet statistically having a strong season start. Put a top caliber back like Bradshaw or B.Wells in there and figure what would happen.
You're contradicting yourself, because our offensive line, particularly our run blocking, is what is subpar. What McFadden has done so far this season is remarkable, and it's all a credit to him. I'm willing to bet that neither Michael Bush, Ahmad Bradshaw, or even Beanie Wells could outproduce him under similar circumstances. It doesn't take very long for his sublime talent to jump off the screen. The guy can do it ALL (and that even means lay out a nasty block from time to time).
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Your ******* Ray Rice has me at 0-3.
week one was vs the Jets, you know that wasn't getting him many points.
2 and 3 are because the Ravens insist on Flacco airing it out and only giving Raymell like 15 carries and NEVER give him goal line carries. stupid Ravens.
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Raymell misses Hue Jackson already. Not surprised. :)
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Cuz McFadden is still not that good, yet statistically having a strong season start. Put a top caliber back like Bradshaw or B.Wells in there and figure what would happen.
Top caliber back...Bradshaw...B.Wells.

Was all that in one sentence or was it a series of run-ons ##%@!@#% me?

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