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Old 11-02-2009, 06:58 PM    (permalink
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I have come to the realization that it is time for a regime change in Green Bay starting with Thompson. Just too many of the same problems, can't run the ball, poor discipline., lack of aggressiveness in bringing vets etc.

The 'name' coaching prospects are well knowd- Shanahan, Cower, but the Packers should hire a GM first and keep that separate from the HC. Who would be potential GM's this off season? And don't even think of Holmgrem
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Tom Heckert of the Eagles has almost left the past couple offseasons, he has no say in matters because Andy Reid is the VP of Personnel Department and is essentially the GM in everything but title. He almost left for the Browns but he declined after they hired Mangini because he wanted his own guy.

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That is a list of five executives ready to take the next step and become general managers.
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Marc Ross, head of scouting for the Giants would make an excellent GM. He's Jerry Reese's right hand man, and I think the world of him.


But seriously, TT is a great GM. Packer fans need to take that chill pill. I have no idea why anyone would blame TT for the Favre saga.

Especially since he made the right move. And he's done a great job filling that team with talent.

Injuries happen. You can't win em all. Sometimes you just get unlucky. TT is doing a fine job in GB.
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Good GMs IMO usually come from directors of college or pro scouting under great GMs.
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I like Caserio in New England. I think the success of Dimitroff in Atlanta bodes well for him, although the Scott Pioli situation in Kansas City doesn't look that good so far and it might hurt his chances, along with the fact that, other than Josh McDaniels, most recent Belichick disciples haven't really panned out. I don't keep up on executives much, though, just saying that personally it seems like Caserio knows his stuff whether it's X's and O's or more big-picture stuff.
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well, we're all pretty much going to name guys from our own teams haha :)

But if you think about it, nabbing a scouting guy from a great drafting organization is the way to go.

So guys from the Giants, Eagles, Patriots, Steelers, Colts, etc would be guys to consider.
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I think your overreacting a little bit. To be honest if I was in his position I would've done the same thing and got rid of Favre. Favre was playing the "should i retire game" for 3 straight years and Thompson probably got tired of it. Well most of us got tired of that fiasco. Sure most of his first round picks were bust but lets see what they were. Aaron Rodgers is doing amazing now and will probably be your QB for 6-10 more years. AJ Hawk more fitted to be a 4-3 linebacker. Justin Harrell was injury prone. BJ Raji and Clay matthews is in his rookie year. The only thing I've seen that I didn't like was that he didn't attempt to trade for Randy Moss.
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God damn it. I ******* hate Packer fans.

Ted Thompson is one of the better GMs in the NFL. He's doing a great job and is responsible for pretty much every talented player on our team. There are a few things he's missed on like fixing the OL, but no GM is perfect. Thompson is way better than anyone else available and is not and should not be anywhere close to being fired.
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I am going to state the guy who I was hoping would have been the Chiefs current GM. Eric DeCosta. I wanted him since day one of the end of the Carl Peterson regime was over. I really think he is the next big front office guy that will be dominant for some team as a GM.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=27880

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After leading the team’s college scouting department for six years, Eric DeCosta was promoted to director of player personnel in 2009. DeCosta works with GM Ozzie Newsome to oversee both the college and pro scouting departments. A graduate of the Ravens’ “20/20 Club,” Eric joined the franchise in an entry-level position in 1996, the team’s first in Baltimore. He was honored in 2005 by The Sporting News as one of the top young stars in sports and was selected to both the 2008 Baltimore Business Journal and Baltimore Magazine “40 under 40” group. He also served on the eight-member committee to interview and select Ravens head coach John Harbaugh in 2008. During DeCosta’s tenure as scouting director, the Ravens drafted Pro Bowlers LB Terrell Suggs (’03) and FB Le’Ron McClain (’07) and a number of other key contributors, including OLB Jarret Johnson (’03), WR Mark Clayton (’05), C Jason Brown (’05), DT Haloti Ngata (’06), G Ben Grubbs (’07), T Jared Gaither (’07 Supplemental Draft) and QB Joe Flacco (’08)

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I like Caserio in New England. I think the success of Dimitroff in Atlanta bodes well for him, although the Scott Pioli situation in Kansas City doesn't look that good so far and it might hurt his chances, along with the fact that, other than Josh McDaniels, most recent Belichick disciples haven't really panned out. I don't keep up on executives much, though, just saying that personally it seems like Caserio knows his stuff whether it's X's and O's or more big-picture stuff.
He had half of one off season to work on the team. Give him time. It didnt happen right away in NE for you.
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Those guys were taken before George Kokinis got there. Before he got to the Brown he was the right hand guy to in Baltimore. Head of scouting head of personnel etc.
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I have come to the realization that it is time for a regime change in Green Bay starting with Thompson. Just too many of the same problems, can't run the ball, poor discipline., lack of aggressiveness in bringing vets etc.

The 'name' coaching prospects are well knowd- Shanahan, Cower, but the Packers should hire a GM first and keep that separate from the HC. Who would be potential GM's this off season? And don't even think of Holmgrem
Are you serious with firing Ted Thompson? You make Packers fans look bad. Give me reasons. Now. I beg you.

Note to board: He is a seperate entity from the majority of the Packers fans. Don't take his opinion, as ill minded and ignorant as it is, as the voice for the rest of us.
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God damn it. I ******* hate Packer fans.

Ted Thompson is one of the better GMs in the NFL. He's doing a great job and is responsible for pretty much every talented player on our team. There are a few things he's missed on like fixing the OL, but no GM is perfect. Thompson is way better than anyone else available and is not and should not be anywhere close to being fired.
Exactly. Thompson is an excellent GM and we'd be stupid to get rid of him. Too many people are overreacting to yesterday's lose, and many are still bitter that he made the right decision with Favre.
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I am going to state the guy who I was hoping would have been the Chiefs current GM. Eric DeCosta. I wanted him since day one of the end of the Carl Peterson regime was over. I really think he is the next big front office guy that will be dominant for some team as a GM.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...ad.php?t=27880

A brief bio on DeCosta from the Ravens website:

After leading the team’s college scouting department for six years, Eric DeCosta was promoted to director of player personnel in 2009. DeCosta works with GM Ozzie Newsome to oversee both the college and pro scouting departments. A graduate of the Ravens’ “20/20 Club,” Eric joined the franchise in an entry-level position in 1996, the team’s first in Baltimore. He was honored in 2005 by The Sporting News as one of the top young stars in sports and was selected to both the 2008 Baltimore Business Journal and Baltimore Magazine “40 under 40” group. He also served on the eight-member committee to interview and select Ravens head coach John Harbaugh in 2008. During DeCosta’s tenure as scouting director, the Ravens drafted Pro Bowlers LB Terrell Suggs (’03) and FB Le’Ron McClain (’07) and a number of other key contributors, including OLB Jarret Johnson (’03), WR Mark Clayton (’05), C Jason Brown (’05), DT Haloti Ngata (’06), G Ben Grubbs (’07), T Jared Gaither (’07 Supplemental Draft) and QB Joe Flacco (’08)

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That's enough of that, we need Eric for when Ozzie leaves for Alabama!
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No i been on Erics hog for some time now.
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An all Rutgers NFL team. Ryan D'Imperio, first rounder. Make it happen Scotty. He dominated my high school back then as a RB and LB. Wasn't fair.
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I'm available. just have them gimme a call
Step #1: Trade Aaron Rodgers for Ray Rice and his juicy thighs
Step #2: Trade Greg Jennings for Kenny Britt
Step #3: Trade future first for Mike Teel
Step #4: Trade Ryan Grant for Brian Leonard
Step #5: Trade Aaron Kampman for Jamaal Westerman
Step #6: Trade entire draft for Anthony Davis
Step #7: Championship!
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:28 PM    (permalink
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An all Rutgers NFL team. Ryan D'Imperio, first rounder. Make it happen Scotty. He dominated my high school back then as a RB and LB. Wasn't fair.
you got it.

actually I'd pick Davis for the Pack, which really makes sense...
and then D'Imperio in the 2nd! :D
tim brown in the 3rd! EPIC PASS OFFENSE
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