Originally Posted by iowatreat54
So every game Spain's been in, they've dominated possession and easily controled the tempo of the game, playing the way they wanted. They've sucked every game at finishing, otherwise they would have waltzed through the tournament.
Yet now you ***** and moan about it? You really "hate" that Spain dominates most of their opponents with possession and wins games barely? I know it's not German football, which is fantastic and I love, but I'd much rather take how Spain played in the final over the Dutch. Spain clearly outplayed them and deserved to win.
I agree about the reffing. What's even worse is FIFA has come out and said that the reffing was fantastic all tournament outside of a few calls. Yea, if by a few calls they mean like half the games.
I've bitched about Spain throughout this tournament but really did it was when they got a free kick from a good 45 yards out, and instead of playing it forward or just hoofing it into the box they played it back to a defender who played it back again before that defender knocked it to the goal keeper, all while still at 0-0, if a team is that unwilling to try and score I'm not going to support or approve of that type of play in any way. Spain dominated possession, great, the dutch still crafted more high quality chances than Spain, if both times had finished every chance the Dutch would've won 3-2, so what stopped spain from scoring more wasn't their poor finishing but their poor chance creation and with how much of the ball they had that comes from not trying to score enough.
Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn
That was a huge post Rosebud, lol, but a very accurate analysis of the German team, IMO.
Schweini was indeed a beast, as was Mueller. I think Germany is in a similar situation to Mexico, where most of the talented players are still very young and will play together for a long time to come.
The only difference being that Germany is already elite while Mexico, well, let's hope they're on their way.
Yeah, it's amazing how much you can write if you're stuck on vacation with little to do and no interwebz, that piece is what I wrote well the day after Spain-Germany with some updates.
And yeah Mexico looks like a team that'll be beastly at putting das runde ins eckige, although what you guys are going to on defense is still a mystery to me, kinda like Germany with the striker position there's a bunch of young talent coming through all around with one obvious lack there of. On that note want to trade Chicharito for Hoewedes?
Originally Posted by AntoinCD
I really don't get all the badmouthing of the ref. Don't get me wrong I don't think Howard Webb is a very good referee but the only criticism I can really see is he should have sent off more players.
De Jong should have gotten a straight red.
Van Bommel could have been sent off about three times.
Puyol could have been sent off.
Iniesta could have been sent off for reacting although Van Bommel went down like he was shot.
He had no choice but to send Heitinga off.
Holland should have been down to 9 men in the first half. I really fail to see any arguement against this. If that's the case it doesn't matter what happens later because Spain would have won handily.
I think he probably should have given the foul on Elia in the build up to Spain's goal but it would have been pretty soft.
Not only should he have given the foul on Elia, which was close but I would've tipped in favor of foul, but he gave a goal kick on an obvious corner directly before spain's goal. Thus his screw up directly effected the game. That and he gave some ******** yellows, like Heitinga's first yellow, after not giving De Jong the red he deserved. And he didn't give Spain yellows where they deserved them, like Iniesta's trip and shove on Von Bommel, speaking of whom he could've gotten yellows multiple times but I completely disagree that he did anything that would've warranted a straight red, in fact other than De Jong's kick and Puyol's attempt there were no straight reds in this game.