The Noel Devine Thread

[FloridaSkinzFan]

Noel Devine RB West Virginia



Devine has been one of my favorite college prospects to watch. Coming out of high school as a 5 star RB recruit, ultimately choosing WVU over FSU, I've been fascinated by his youtube highlight tapes. Honestly reminds me a lot of Barry Sanders, the way he stops/starts and can change directions. Heres his career stats from WVU:


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player...layerId=238902

Not sure if he'll declare for the draft yet, but I don't see many reasons why he would return to WVU for his senior season....As far as the combine I see him being a workout warrior.

Anyways...anything Devine related we can talk hereee

[RealityCheck]

I hope he stays.

[AkiliSmith]

He has several mouths to feed and would probably be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I think he's gone for sure.

[FloridaSkinzFan]

Originally Posted by AkiliSmith

He has several mouths to feed and would probably be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I think he's gone for sure.

This is true. I've read he has two kids, hes good friends with Deion Sanders who will probably convince him to declare for the draft.

[RealityCheck]

Well, that's why I said I hope. If he stayed, then he would be beast in the 2011 draft.

[nobodyinparticular]

Food for thought:

If you are the GM for a team on draft day, which RB prospect would you rather have, Toby Gerhart or Noel Devine?

(please don't make this about race, this is not the point of the question)

The point is that these two RBs are very, very different in playing styles. Gerhart is a guy who hits the hole quickly and with authority, running with power. Devine is a guy who is small and shifty, more likely to break out the big 60-yard run.

You have a white canvas for the team that you manage--it's up to you what situation the team is in. In fact, it would be best if you clarified when you would value Devine over Gerhart or vice versa.

Have at it.

[RealityCheck]

Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

Food for thought:

If you are the GM for a team on draft day, which RB prospect would you rather have, Toby Gerhart or Noel Devine?

(please don't make this about race, this is not the point of the question)

The point is that these two RBs are very, very different in playing styles. Gerhart is a guy who hits the hole quickly and with authority, running with power. Devine is a guy who is small and shifty, more likely to break out the big 60-yard run.

You have a white canvas for the team that you manage--it's up to you what situation the team is in. In fact, it would be best if you clarified when you would value Devine over Gerhart or vice versa.

Have at it.

I'd do everything possible to get both.

[brat316]

Gerhart, I'm a fan of power runners. Gerhart I would value low first round high second, since we have no idea how is hands are or his route running.

Devine high second to mid second, he is a scat back and those guys come dime a dozen. He has speed but he doesn't have the power like CJ to break off arm tackles, or the body like a MJD. He is a home run hitter, but can he carry a partial load and stay injury free unlike say Felix Jones?

[D-Unit]

I still think he should've went to FSU.

[FloridaSkinzFan]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

I still think he should've went to FSU.

Being here in Orlando, I was really hoping he would come to FSU as well.

[Malaka]

Originally Posted by RealityCheck

I'd do everything possible to get both.

That would be a sick tandem.

[yourfavestoner]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

I still think he should've went to FSU.

So he could fade away into obscurity like Leon Washington, Lorenzo Booker, and Antone Smith did? I know Washington has been a good pro, but FSU hasn't exactly been churning out quality NFL prospects recently.

[RealityCheck]

Originally Posted by Malaka

That would be a sick tandem.

Oh yes that would. I'd get rid of Maroney and Taylor, and hell, we got 3 2nd rounders.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I think Devine will declare. This year WVU will be losing most of their key pieces on offense like QB Jarrett Brown, WRs Alric Arnett, Wes Lyons and Jock Sanders and RT Selvish Capers. That along with the fact that he had successful and injury free season(which for a back his size is never a given). Ultimately he'll be a solid 3rd down back for some team and I'll say he's a 3rd rounder at best now. I usually don't like comparing players, but Darren Sproles and Devine are very similar, both in size and playing style. Despite his size he's very strong though and can bench 400+ pounds. Expect him to blow up the combine and depending on his 40 time he may be able to sneak into the 2nd round.

[niel89]

I'm worried about his size to be an NFL back even if he is sharing the load. He is listed at 5'8" 176 lbs. He is 24 lbs from being 200lbs which still isn't that heavy for a Rb. He is fantastic with the ball in his hands because he is very fast and quick. Injuries are always a concern with his size.

How are his receiving skills?

DeSean Jackson is 5'10" 175 lbs and people questioned his size to play Wr in the pros. Although Darren Sprolles is 5'6"185.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

He has nice hands and is a good receiver out of the backfield.

[brat316]

I think Noel should be able to add like 10-15 lbs like Steve Slaton did.

But still I think Gerheart goes before him.

[superman8456]

I'd want him on my team, for the right price. I would not draft Devine if I didnt have a good offensive line, but if I did I think he could be a great back. Just give him holes and he'll get to the 2nd level just like a Chris Johnson or AP.

[roscoesdad27]

I have him on the second tier of my running backs rankings (spiller is tier 1 by himself) along with gebhart and dwyer....warwick dunn did alright despite his size and i feel devine is more talented.

He should go in the second round, perhaps late first/perhaps early third. I've been mocking him to teams like washington, n.e. and pittsburg in the second round and currently have him going #52 to n.e. via jax in round 2.


1) c.j. spiller

2) t. gebhart
3) n. devine
4) j. dwyer

5) j. best
6) r. matthews

7) a. dixon
8) b. tate

9) e. royster
10) j. mcknight

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by roscoesdad27

I have him on the second tier of my running backs rankings (spiller is tier 1 by himself) along with gebhart and dwyer....warwick dunn did alright despite his size and i feel devine is more talented.

He should go in the second round, perhaps late first/perhaps early third. I've been mocking him to teams like washington, n.e. and pittsburg in the second round and currently have him going #52 to n.e. via jax in round 2.


1) c.j. spiller

2) t. gebhart
3) n. devine
4) j. dwyer

5) j. best
6) r. matthews

7) a. dixon
8) b. tate

9) e. royster
10) j. mcknight

Having Jahvid Best in the "third tier" of your rankings is laughable.

Anyway, I'm not sure Devine's actually as big as his listed size. Wasn't Darren Sproles also listed at like 5'8 in college. I wouldn't touch Devine unless I already had another solid RB and a good run-blocking line. I think he ends up going mid-third, early fourth.

[LonghornsLegend]

Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

Food for thought:

If you are the GM for a team on draft day, which RB prospect would you rather have, Toby Gerhart or Noel Devine?

(please don't make this about race, this is not the point of the question)

The point is that these two RBs are very, very different in playing styles. Gerhart is a guy who hits the hole quickly and with authority, running with power. Devine is a guy who is small and shifty, more likely to break out the big 60-yard run.

You have a white canvas for the team that you manage--it's up to you what situation the team is in. In fact, it would be best if you clarified when you would value Devine over Gerhart or vice versa.

Have at it.

It depends on what you need for your team.


If your the Jets and you don't like Leon Washington's recovery you obviously like a guy like Devine to pair with Shonn Greene, same goes for a team like Washington who may want to keep Portis around for another year and add some youth, speed, and a play-maker to the offense.


Now Gerhart makes alot more sense to a team like the Chiefs, they already have a guy basically like Devine in Jamaal Charles so you can pair Gerhart and Charles and you have a nice rotation.


I think it's pick your flavor depending on what you already have. Devine is going to be a bigger play-maker though, I don't care how little he is his thighs are huge and speed kills so someone will find a spot for him.


He's a much bigger guy then Charles was in terms of thickness, he'll be just fine.

[Brown Leader]

Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

Food for thought:

If you are the GM for a team on draft day, which RB prospect would you rather have, Toby Gerhart or Noel Devine?

Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

I think it's pick your flavor depending on what you already have. Devine is going to be a bigger play-maker though, I don't care how little he is his thighs are huge and speed kills so someone will find a spot for him.


He's a much bigger guy then Charles was in terms of thickness, he'll be just fine.

Of course it depends on need but the gamebreaker will always be valued more than the steady dependable guy. The skills of a guy like Devine are harder to come by than what Gerhart brings. That said, Gerhart is clearly the workhorse and should be a feature back. But if Devine rips up or has a reasonably good showing at post season workouts and combine while adding weight I would definitely take him over Toby. I think it's entirely possible Devine goes before Best and Dwyer also.

[FloridaSkinzFan]

like the dude said before, Devine can bench 400lbs, dont be surprised when he destroys the weights @ the combine. I say he does 30 reps of 225

[niel89]

30 reps would be crazy.

[phlysac]

I appreciate Devine's talent but the life he's lived outside the white-lines would make me hesitant.