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Old 12-19-2009, 09:43 PM    (permalink
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I don't want J-Rock & his back fat in Detroit.
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and they eat his salary so we can immediately cut jamarcus?
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Oh I was just joking about Jamarcus :D
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:06 AM    (permalink
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i don't know, he could play some DT
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:03 PM    (permalink
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They like the beefy QB's ... C Pepp was almost 3bills when he showed up off the street last year. (kidding of course about even considering Russell)

Culpepper is not a starter in this league anymore. His "accurate" balls float, his deep ball lacks zip & his scrambling skills are rusty. Maybe in a unique setting he could back up (Baltimore or NY Jets come to mind) but his aspirations of starting again in this league are a pipe dream. (after the next 3 weeks I mean) Why we are not getting meaningful tape on Stanton is beyond me! We can not have a mystery at back up next year with a 2nd year guy starting that takes the pounding he does. Maybe they are planning on bringing in a veteran and keeping Stanton at #3? What a mismanaged,trade up #2 draft pick ...geesh!
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If we're going to trade CJ, it better be ridiculously good in our favor. Im talking a 1st round, a pro bowl starter (preferably a LT or LG) , a 2nd and a 4th rounder.

Free Agency i would target a couple WRs, a DE, a safety, a new TE to backup Pettigrew, some depth in the secondary.

the draft would then be
1 Suh
1b. CB
2. DE
2b. OL
3. WR
4. CB
4b. OL
5. DT
6. MLB
7. RB

with our amazing draft last year, it seems our front office knows what they're doing. We could easily get 4-5 starters with 10 picks. Including a legit star at DT with Suh (assuming he doesnt become "Lionized")
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Buffalo is on the line:

We offer you our 2nd, 4th + Marshawn Lynch and our 1st next year.

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We offer you our 2nd, 4th + Marshawn Lynch and our 1st next year.

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1st, 4th + Marshawn + 1st next year
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and you take ernie sims
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1st, 4th + Marshawn + 1st next year
That would NEVER ever happen. Two 1sts and a probowler?

I think if a GM got offered a 2nd, 4th, Marshawn and a 1st next year, you have to take that. You get a starting runningback, making a pretty good combo for Stafford. You have a high 2nd round pick, having 3 picks in the top 40. A 1st next year, which is a steal imo because I dont think the Bills are going to turn it around, so you'll wind up with a top 15 pick the next year with a draft class of potentially AJ Green, Julio Jones, DeAndre Brown, etc, etc.

I also highly doubt you guys have a chance at resigning him.

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That would NEVER ever happen. Two 1sts and a probowler?
You are right, Calvin would never get traded.
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That would NEVER ever happen. Two 1sts and a probowler?

I think if a GM got offered a 2nd, 4th, Marshawn and a 1st next year, you have to take that. You get a starting runningback, making a pretty good combo for Stafford. You have a high 2nd round pick, having 3 picks in the top 40. A 1st next year, which is a steal imo because I dont think the Bills are going to turn it around, so you'll wind up with a top 15 pick the next year with a draft class of potentially AJ Green, Julio Jones, DeAndre Brown, etc, etc.

I also highly doubt you guys have a chance at resigning him.
Decent deal. How does anyone know we can't resign him with 3 years left on his contract. And who really cares for resigning him at this point, he is under contract for 3 more years plus at least one franchise tag, maybe 2. I'll worry about that in 5 years. If we suck in 5 years we got bigger problems and probably will stop caring at that point.
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Decent deal. How does anyone know we can't resign him with 3 years left on his contract. And who really cares for resigning him at this point, he is under contract for 3 more years plus at least one franchise tag, maybe 2. I'll worry about that in 5 years. If we suck in 5 years we got bigger problems and probably will stop caring at that point.
I think this post pretty muched summed it up.
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I WANT THIS THREAD TO GO AWAY NOW.
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I also highly doubt you guys have a chance at resigning him.
And you know this because? Oh maybe it's because is so strapped for cash with all of their pro bowlers right? Or maybe it's because you can see the future and tell Detroit will suck forever just like the Dolphins and Falcons a few years ago right?


That comment makes absolutely no sense, and there is not even ONE thing you could list that would make it even somewhat true. Even if he went the Chad Johnson route and whined his way out(which he wouldn't because that's never been his character), the Bengals showed that if anything a team decides where a player ends up.
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If the Bears had Megatron, I wouldn't trade him for less than 2 firsts and a third. Three firsts if he were going in the same division.
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The Bears don't have the draft pick ammunition until like 2011 with the Culter & Gaines Adams trades!!
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The Bears don't have the draft pick ammunition until like 2011 with the Culter & Gaines Adams trades!!
The Gaines Adams trade was really really bad.
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The Gaines Adams trade was really really bad.
a second round pick isn't all that bad. it's only unfortunate that they already traded away everything else to get Cutler.

for the record: I do believe Cutler will pull himself together and make the Bears a much better football team next season.
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Just adding to the Bears discussion ... they are a 6-9 team (probably 7-9 if they beat Detroit Sunday) and that would make them 4-4 in the division. Whoopy!!! They won't pick until rd 3 in this draft and better go Oline to protect their ASSet (Cutler).

Call me a homer but I would rather have Matt Stafford/Johnson/Pettigrew and a full arsenal of picks to improve the D then wino Cutler and rd 3 picks and beyond with 7 wins. Give us 2 more off season and we will have passed Chicago in the NFC North. Just my opinion ...
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Just adding to the Bears discussion ... they are a 6-9 team (probably 7-9 if they beat Detroit Sunday) and that would make them 4-4 in the division. Whoopy!!! They won't pick until rd 3 in this draft and better go Oline to protect their ASSet (Cutler).

Call me a homer but I would rather have Matt Stafford/Johnson/Pettigrew and a full arsenal of picks to improve the D then wino Cutler and rd 3 picks and beyond with 7 wins. Give us 2 more off season and we will have passed Chicago in the NFC North. Just my opinion ...
Call me a cynic but I don't think Cutler will struggle next season, at least not as much as he has this season. Besides, they'll get Urlacher back next season as well. Face it, when it comes to the NFC North we have some ways to go. But with a decent-ish line, a promising quarterback and a few guys able to catch balls and/or run with them.
A little defense and who konws, we might be able to challenge Chicago. Maybe.
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I think he was painting a hypothetical of "if he were a bear I wouldn't trade him unless..."

The way the Bears have been drafting though (sounds horrible to say) but they are better off with Cutler. The guy can be great.

The team I'm wondering about for next year is Minnesota. Will Favre really retire this time? If so, who is their QB?
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Originally Posted by tblain1 View Post
I think he was painting a hypothetical of "if he were a bear I wouldn't trade him unless..."

The way the Bears have been drafting though (sounds horrible to say) but they are better off with Cutler. The guy can be great.

The team I'm wondering about for next year is Minnesota. Will Favre really retire this time? If so, who is their QB?
Sure he was ... Chicago would salivate over a WR like CJ. For now they have Johnny Knox ;o)

Cutler has already been a Pro Bowler, not a bold statement to call him great imo. I am not a fan however of him or his skills even. His on field body language & cry baby/ "me first" mentality in the locker room would not settle well with me if I were a teammate.

Yeah the QB carousel in Viking land will be interesting for 2010 and beyond. Clearly the confidence towards Sage & Tavaris as starters is low.
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