Briggs prepared to sit out season - Page 3

njx9 · 03-12-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy_Chris

oh yea and about the whole deion branch thing, draft picks are worth much less in the begining of the season than they are now. which is logical considering early in the season you dont know what you'll be getting in a draft pick you could wind up gettin the #1 overall or #32 but now you know what your getting... i still think its a bit high for deion branch but theres no way the seahawks make that kind of trade right now if he was still a pat

that isn't entirely true. branch's value was likely higher during the regular season because seattle thought he would help them to the super bowl. that was worth the first round pick. now, the season's over (and we've gone through free agency), so the incentive to try to fill that one last hole is much lower in terms of that kind of a trade. the draft pick would hold higher value now if seattle thought it could more effectively use it. the only reason they wouldn't make the same deal is because they didn't win the super bowl, they now know WR wasn't the only hole.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I fail to see how Buffalo's TWELFTH pick equals the value of a high 2nd pick, but whatever.

Cause he said the Bears 31st and Briggs for the 12th.

Reading. It's fundamental.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

Briggs come home to AZ

Briggs is from California, and refers to himself as such. Even when he does the MNF he usually says what high school he is from cause he's embaressed of the University of Arizona.

Crazy_Chris · 03-12-2007, 07:52 PM

Buffalo #12(1200) Chicago #31(600) & Lance Briggs that trade values lance briggs as the same value of #31 overall depending on personal opions it could be considered a good deal

njx9 · 03-12-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hugepunch

living on your own or with your friends for one year is not a big deal so you can be happy. there is a vast differnce i guarantee he has the resources to gut it out for a year if need be. i doubt he would.. but still.

you'd give up 7 million for one year to live on a buddy's couch? you think anyone, realistically, would? if the bears do nothing, he'll come back, if for no other reason than that it would be financially stupid not to.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hugepunch

living on your own or with your friends for one year is not a big deal so you can be happy. there is a vast differnce i guarantee he has the resources to gut it out for a year if need be. i doubt he would.. but still.

You realize how stupid this is right?

Flyboy · 03-12-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Cause he said the Bears 31st and Briggs for the 12th.

Reading. It's fundamental.

You know it is quite possible to make a point on a messageboard without being a complete douchebag in the process. Just a thought.

Jughead10 · 03-12-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

you'd give up 7 million for one year to live on a buddy's couch? you think anyone, realistically, would? if the bears do nothing, he'll come back, if for no other reason than that it would be financially stupid not to.

Eh, with how crazy the markets are getting him sitting out a year is realistic. I'm sure he would never stay on a friend's couch, that is just dumb. But my guess is that Briggs had made about 3 million in his career so far. If he isn't a complete moron with his money, he could sit on his ass in a nice apartment for a year and do nothing. Going back and playing for 7 million guaranteed is a risk of getting a career ending injury when he could probably sit a full year, not risk injury, and get 18-20 million guaranteed in 2008.

njx9 · 03-12-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

You know it is quite possible to make a point on a messageboard without being a complete douchebag in the process. Just a thought.

in spite of your join date and post total, i'd venture to guess you don't spend much time here. because 74% of the time, it's not.

hugepunch · 03-12-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

you'd give up 7 million for one year to live on a buddy's couch? you think anyone, realistically, would? if the bears do nothing, he'll come back, if for no other reason than that it would be financially stupid not to.

your asking the wrong person because i value being happy over anything else. like i said i doubt he has the balls to sit out a season.

hugepunch · 03-12-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Eh, with how crazy the markets are getting him sitting out a year in realistic. I'm sure he would never stay on a friend's couch, that is just dumb. But my guess is that Briggs had made about 3 million in his career so far. If he isn't a complete moron with his money, he could sit on his ass in a nice apartment for a year and do nothing. Going back and playing for 7 million guaranteed is a risk of getting a career ending injury when he could probably sit a full year, not risk injury, and get 18-20 million guaranteed in 2008.

exactly, nicely said.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

You know it is quite possible to make a point on a messageboard without being a complete douchebag in the process. Just a thought.

Yeah good one. Cause you weren't acting like a condescending know-it-all when you thought you knew what you were talking about. Just learn to use your brain next time and it won't be an issue.

Flyboy · 03-12-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

in spite of your join date and post total, i'd venture to guess you don't spend much time here. because 74% of the time, it's not.

And, I don't buy that logic at all. There are various ways to make a point without resulting to insults, however, it seems like some people prefer that way for whatever reason they see fit.

njx9 · 03-12-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Eh, with how crazy the markets are getting him sitting out a year in realistic. I'm sure he would never stay on a friend's couch, that is just dumb. But my guess is that Briggs had made about 3 million in his career so far. If he isn't a complete moron with his money, he could sit on his ass in a nice apartment for a year and do nothing. Going back and playing for 7 million guaranteed is a risk off getting a career ending injury when he could probably sit a full year, not risk injury, and get 18-20 million guaranteed in 2008.

i can't comment on briggs' intelligence, but i'd have to guess he hasn't had a sound financial plan (based on nothing but watching MTV Cribs). if he hasn't invested well, that money is basically gone at this point, moreso because the taxes on his salary alone will roughly cut it in half. meh. the injury argument is the only one that makes any sense, but i think he's an idiot if he banks on next year's cap being anything like this years if there's money on the table.

drmoyer421 · 03-12-2007, 07:58 PM

Everyone may know the Briggs and Jauron connection. And both have said great things about each other, as Briggs said he would like to play for Jauron again.

BUT.. Did you know that before Levy took the job as GM here in Buffalo, he was one of the announcers for the Bears. And he was one of the first to say that Briggs was a superstar in the making.

Both the Coach and GM love Briggs, and we have a need at LB. I have a feeling that this may be a draft day type trade. The Bills will see thier choices at the #12 and possibly make a move. That or I could even see giving a next years first round pick for him with one of thier thirds

njx9 · 03-12-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

And, I don't buy that logic at all. There are various ways to make a point without resulting to insults, however, it seems like some people prefer that way for whatever reason they see fit.

actually, you're the only one who's made a personal attack (douchebag) or insulted someone. seems you agree.

Jughead10 · 03-12-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

i can't comment on briggs' intelligence, but i'd have to guess he hasn't had a sound financial plan (based on nothing but watching MTV Cribs). if he hasn't invested well, that money is basically gone at this point, moreso because the taxes on his salary alone will roughly cut it in half. meh. the injury argument is the only one that makes any sense, but i think he's an idiot if he banks on next year's cap being anything like this years if there's money on the table.

Next year's cap will probably go up 3 million I'm guessing. Not nearly the 9 or so it has each of the last two years. Either way teams are still a ton of money under the cap with very few quality free agent left, if there were any to start off with. I don't think contract prices will go up next off season but I would assume we will see similar deals. Also I've never seen his MTV Cribs, ha. Only seen Will Demps. I don't know how he deserved one.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drmoyer421

Everyone may know the Briggs and Jauron connection. And both have said great things about each other, as Briggs said he would like to play for Jauron again.

BUT.. Did you know that before Levy took the job as GM here in Buffalo, he was one of the announcers for the Bears. And he was one of the first to say that Briggs was a superstar in the making.

Both the Coach and GM love Briggs, and we have a need at LB. I have a feeling that this may be a draft day type trade. The Bills will see thier choices at the #12 and possibly make a move. That or I could even see giving a next years first round pick for him with one of thier thirds

All very good points. Although as I recall Levy had a radio show, he wasn't an announcer. But yes, Marv is in love with all things Chicago, which is why he keeps trying to sign all of our coaches and players.

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Eh, with how crazy the markets are getting him sitting out a year is realistic. I'm sure he would never stay on a friend's couch, that is just dumb. But my guess is that Briggs had made about 3 million in his career so far. If he isn't a complete moron with his money, he could sit on his ass in a nice apartment for a year and do nothing. Going back and playing for 7 million guaranteed is a risk of getting a career ending injury when he could probably sit a full year, not risk injury, and get 18-20 million guaranteed in 2008.

Unless they tag him again, which they probably will.

Jerry Angelo makes Jeffrey Lurie look like Santa Claus. I think you're all forgetting that. He traded Jones because he wanted to.

drmoyer421 · 03-12-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

All very good points. Although as I recall Levy had a radio show, he wasn't an announcer. But yes, Marv is in love with all things Chicago, which is why he keeps trying to sign all of our coaches and players.

Ha HA.. true. And yes you are right about the radio show. I mistyped!

SFbear · 03-12-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by drmoyer421

Everyone may know the Briggs and Jauron connection. And both have said great things about each other, as Briggs said he would like to play for Jauron again.

BUT.. Did you know that before Levy took the job as GM here in Buffalo, he was one of the announcers for the Bears. And he was one of the first to say that Briggs was a superstar in the making.

Both the Coach and GM love Briggs, and we have a need at LB. I have a feeling that this may be a draft day type trade. The Bills will see thier choices at the #12 and possibly make a move. That or I could even see giving a next years first round pick for him with one of thier thirds

Also the Bills are a non-conference team that the Bears won't be playing for another couple years. It's a good fit, but I definitely see it as a draft day trade once the Bills see what they have at 12.

Jughead10 · 03-12-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Unless they tag him again, which they probably will.

Jerry Angelo makes Jeffrey Lurie look like Santa Claus. I think you're all forgetting that. He traded Jones because he wanted to.

If he tags him again then Angelo is just a spiteful ass. Bottom line.

dhoe20 · 03-12-2007, 08:07 PM

I'm surprised they haven't gotten a trade for him yet. Would you mind trading a 1st round pick for him? Think about it, he's an all-pro quality player that will have an immediate impact on the defense, and on top of that, he's only 26. If you draft a lber in the first round, more than likely, he won't be as good as Briggs. It'll take him a while for him to adjust, and even after he does adjust, what's to say that he's going to be an all-pro like Briggs? I haven't heard how much the Bears have been asking though, so that might be why no deals been done.

Damix · 03-12-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frogstomp

Why the hell would you capitalize the first letter of every word, but then use an abbreviation for regular? Weird.

he didnt, if you post completely in caps it changes to that

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

If he tags him again then Angelo is just a spiteful ass. Bottom line.

He's a business man. This isn't the business of making friends.

And being a spiteful ass can get you very far in life. Maybe if Briggs has a problem with the franchise tag he should talk to his own union, which authorized the renewal of it. If they don't like it so much, don't put it in there. The Bears are doing what they are legally allowed to do to protect their interests.