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Old 01-12-2010, 08:43 PM    (permalink
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Default The Pro-Bowl should be the only game played overseas...

...and it should be moved every year like the Superbowl, moved to countries or cities that have the stadium sizable enough to accommodate.


I bring this up because I am reading about a 49er home game going across seas, this doesn't seem fair to the team and city that gets only 7 real home games.

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i feel as though that would be a great way to spread football throughout the world. not like americans give a **** about it anyway
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i feel as though that would be a great way to spread football throughout the world. not like americans give a **** about it anyway
Only if they change the rules to be a normal game. No blitzing suck my D. The reason why the pro bowl isn't popular anymore is because everything is tied down.
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The Pro Bowl shouldn't be played, period. Pick the teams and be done with it.
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Im all for games abroad...albeit not too many. Im a Steelers fan living in the UK...i cant afford to travel to pittsburgh and buy tickets, just aint gonna happen. Im stoked that theres a chance they could be playing here in the coming years. Its a good thing for the sport imo.
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Agreed. The risk of injury and the watered down aspects of the game that is actually played makes me lose so much interest. I hate it. The only thing I really look forward to is the All-Pro list...the one you can't get in based on just your reputation.
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I'm still having a hard time grasping the fact that it's being played the week before the Super Bowl now. Yeah, real brilliant idea there. It just needs to be done away with already. I agree, pick the teams and leave it at that. Yes, the game is for the fans. But, the majority of fans, at least in my experience, do not care about the actual game itself at all. And of course, you can go the other route and say you're rewarding the players with the game...but yeah, that would make a lot more sense if the game was still in Hawaii.
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They ruined the pro bowl by putting it before the superbowl. Now every single player that is on one of the superbowl teams rosters aren't going to be able to play.
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They ruined the pro bowl by putting it before the superbowl. Now every single player that is on one of the superbowl teams rosters aren't going to be able to play.
It was already worthless. This change did nothing but make it a joke, because between the Superbowl teams not going and the amount of real or bogus injuries people will come up with, you're going to see some undeserving players in this game and positions with 5 and 6 Pro Bowl players, which only helps to devalue the point of the thing.

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imo, the NFL should do a tour match, take guys from P-squad and from the back up ranks, i.e. every NFL team nominates guys from every position and the NFL selects a coordinator or position coach to be head coach of the NFC and the AFC and take these guys who wouldn't otherwise have a chance to start for a few years or travel and play some games on every continent in the offseason and grow the brand.

Think about it, if they have these guys who won't be a big factor in the regular season, who aren't gassed or injured from the regular season, throw them in a team, under a relatively experienced coach from whatever team and let them play.

Or, nominate a coach who wants to be involved but won't necessarily take an NFL job for whatever reason and let them coach. It would be easy to find 106 guys from all the backups and P-squads to form two teams and send them round the world for 8 games or so.
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Here Here. Plus with all of the guys who drop out due to injury (and "injury") and now, with the Superbowl teams' players not playing, we're likely going to see extreme alternates...like 5th and 6th choices.

Pick the teams, no need for alternates and **** like that...then just have a fun skills competition in Hawaii or something. Play beach flag football like the HoF guys used to do (maybe still do...idk, haven't gotten the NFL network in a long while.)

The Pro Bowl is a joke anyway. The only reason I even watch it (if I even remember that it's on) is just because it's the only football available at that time.
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Here Here. Plus with all of the guys who drop out due to injury (and "injury") and now, with the Superbowl teams' players not playing, we're likely going to see extreme alternates...like 5th and 6th choices.

Pick the teams, no need for alternates and **** like that...then just have a fun skills competition in Hawaii or something. Play beach flag football like the HoF guys used to do (maybe still do...idk, haven't gotten the NFL network in a long while.)

The Pro Bowl is a joke anyway. The only reason I even watch it (if I even remember that it's on) is just because it's the only football available at that time.
They should bring the skills competition back. I bet more players would be willing to go overseas to just have fun in something like that. And there is less chance for injury to actually occur. Plus its easily ten times more interesting than the joke of a game they actually play.

I wonder what it would take to get this thing shut down. Perhaps if someone like Peyton Manning got seriously injured...only then would it be considered due to all of the media bashing the NFL would get for having a meaningless game.
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imo, the NFL should do a tour match, take guys from P-squad and from the back up ranks, i.e. every NFL team nominates guys from every position and the NFL selects a coordinator or position coach to be head coach of the NFC and the AFC and take these guys who wouldn't otherwise have a chance to start for a few years or travel and play some games on every continent in the offseason and grow the brand.

Think about it, if they have these guys who won't be a big factor in the regular season, who aren't gassed or injured from the regular season, throw them in a team, under a relatively experienced coach from whatever team and let them play.

Or, nominate a coach who wants to be involved but won't necessarily take an NFL job for whatever reason and let them coach. It would be easy to find 106 guys from all the backups and P-squads to form two teams and send them round the world for 8 games or so.
Makes sense, but its kind of like NFLE. Which wasn't that good at all. There's just not enough interest in the sport overseas. Which Is why I think it should stay a North American sport.
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I'm still having a hard time grasping the fact that it's being played the week before the Super Bowl now. Yeah, real brilliant idea there. It just needs to be done away with already. I agree, pick the teams and leave it at that. Yes, the game is for the fans. But, the majority of fans, at least in my experience, do not care about the actual game itself at all. And of course, you can go the other route and say you're rewarding the players with the game...but yeah, that would make a lot more sense if the game was still in Hawaii.
Despite that, i believe this year's Pro Bowl will have the highest ratings it has had in a long time. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that the Superbowl players won't be in the game, but half the damn players that get chosen originally don't show up anyway, so i doubt it's that big a deal.

The reason i think more people will watch, is simply because it'll be a nice little football warm up before the big game. Think of all the casual fans (the jersey/tshirt fans) that think football is over after the Superbowl. It's such a huge buildup that no one even realizes that there's another game left. I think it's a stupid, meaningless game and i would not miss it if they did away with it, but moving it around to the Superbowl site a week before is a great idea for the NFL.
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Having the Pro Bowl abroad is even worse than taking it away from Hawaii. I can't see too many players wanting to make the trip to Europe, which is currently gripped in the middle of a freezing cold winter.

Wonderbredd's idea of just picking a squad, giving the player's the honour and not playing the game is probably the best idea of the lot. That way we also prevent the possibility of 2nd and 3rd alternates being called Pro Bowlers.
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Despite that, i believe this year's Pro Bowl will have the highest ratings it has had in a long time. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that the Superbowl players won't be in the game, but half the damn players that get chosen originally don't show up anyway, so i doubt it's that big a deal.

The reason i think more people will watch, is simply because it'll be a nice little football warm up before the big game. Think of all the casual fans (the jersey/tshirt fans) that think football is over after the Superbowl. It's such a huge buildup that no one even realizes that there's another game left. I think it's a stupid, meaningless game and i would not miss it if they did away with it, but moving it around to the Superbowl site a week before is a great idea for the NFL.
From a business stand point it is a good idea...even know the game is a joke regardless. You'll more than likely have a bigger audience...a lot of fans just forget about football after the SB like you said, so there is that. But still, if say the Vikings make it to the SB, you'd have to patch up the entire NFC roster. It's still ultimately flawed.
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Old 01-13-2010, 10:27 AM    (permalink
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The NFL just needs to understand that due to the nature of football, the NFL All-Star game is never going to be as popular as the NBA, MLB etc. Way too much risk for injury, and thats fine...I think most fans get it. Overseas would be better than what we have now, but I think they should get rid of the game all together. But I'd rather no go into playing regular season games overseas because I hate it so much.
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id hate to see the pro bowl. it does not have the same intensity, same meaning
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It sure seems like fans in the states don't care about the game at all, so why not send it abroad for fans that don't get to see NFL games?

I'm just not sure there would be much interest elsewhere either b/c the game is so watered down, but it's worth a shot.
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They should just not play the Pro Bowl. It's a contact sport, why risk injury in games no one cares about?
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I would have it overseas. I was thinking about this when they moved it from Hawaii. I was afraid people around the world wouldn't be interested enough in the game to generate much revenue
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