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Old 02-01-2010, 12:16 PM    (permalink
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Especially for 3-4 teams. Why spend 100 million on Peppers when you have Morgan, Graham, Kindle, and Norwood in the draft?
Common logic would suggest that we would take one of those guys since we need a young linebacker. However, we needed one last year too and we traded out of the first and passed on guys like Matthews and Maualuga. If we draft one (or more) of them I would be thrilled but right now I'm game for adding to our pass rush by any means necessary.
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Common logic would suggest that we would take one of those guys since we need a young linebacker. However, we needed one last year too and we traded out of the first and passed on guys like Matthews and Maualuga. If we draft one (or more) of them I would be thrilled but right now I'm game for adding to our pass rush by any means necessary.
It must be so frustrating being a fan of the draft, and a Pats fan.

Bc you go into the draft expecting 1 thing, and the Pats always throw you a bunch of curve balls on draft day and leave you confused haha.

They always go against the grain. It works for them in most cases though, you gotta give them that.

They're unconventional in their methods, but it works.
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If only Marshall and Doom were RFAs....oh wait. Unless you have an ass load of picks to give up, I imagine they will both need a first and third, you can forget about it.
We have 2 firsts in 2011, we can do it.
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We have 2 firsts in 2011, we can do it.
I'd rather spend one of those firsts on Brandon Graham and one on Mark Ingram or maybe even one of the top 3 WRs next year. Or if it's the number 1 pick, maybe Jake Locker.
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I know everyone is saying how he'd be perfect for their team, but since it's already been thrown around as a very realistic possibility... Atlanta. Not afraid to spend money on a desperate need, and Arthur will do anything to get a winner. Not to mention, the offense doesn't need much work, it's just a few pieces we needed on defense. DE being the top or 2nd need for our team.
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I'd rather spend one of those firsts on Brandon Graham and one on Mark Ingram or maybe even one of the top 3 WRs next year. Or if it's the number 1 pick, maybe Jake Locker.
Exactly... this
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I know everyone is saying how he'd be perfect for their team, but since it's already been thrown around as a very realistic possibility... Atlanta. Not afraid to spend money on a desperate need, and Arthur will do anything to get a winner. Not to mention, the offense doesn't need much work, it's just a few pieces we needed on defense. DE being the top or 2nd need for our team.
Peppers and Abraham could be pretty awesome for a couple of years, maybe bringing in Peppers can energize JA back to his 2008 level.
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It must be so frustrating being a fan of the draft, and a Pats fan.

Bc you go into the draft expecting 1 thing, and the Pats always throw you a bunch of curve balls on draft day and leave you confused haha.

They always go against the grain. It works for them in most cases though, you gotta give them that.

They're unconventional in their methods, but it works.
Yeah it can be. I loved the Meriweather, Mayo, and Chad Jackson picks because they were all big talents at positions of need that we actually drafted. Usually, it doesn't work that way. I'm all for it when it works out, when we drafted Mankins I thought "who the hell is he" but he's turned out to be a great player. The Vollmer pick was a shocker as well and he looks good.

Our drafts in recent years haven't been as solid from top to bottom as they were in the earlier part of the decade, hopefully we go after pass rushers and linemen this year. That was our bread and butter during our Super Bowl years.
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Peppers and Abraham could be pretty awesome for a couple of years, maybe bringing in Peppers can energize JA back to his 2008 level.

That'd be awesome. Don't forget Babineaux who played at a Pro Bowl caliber level this season, and Peria Jerry who looked strong before his injury. There's a lot of talent on that DL, and they would certainly be able to get after the QB. But Jamaal Anderson is terrible. There is no other level for him. I'm not sure if that was sarcastic because he actually got 2 whole sacks that year, but he's ******* terrible.
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That'd be awesome. Don't forget Babineaux who played at a Pro Bowl caliber level this season, and Peria Jerry who looked strong before his injury. There's a lot of talent on that DL, and they would certainly be able to get after the QB. But Jamaal Anderson is terrible. There is no other level for him. I'm not sure if that was sarcastic because he actually got 2 whole sacks that year, but he's ******* terrible.
i think by JA he meant john abraham.
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So far, it seems like Atlanta could be a front runner for Peppers, assuming an uncapped year.

Schefter initially said 3 teams were interested in him: Baltimore, Atlanta, New England.
Mort had 2, maybe 3 teams that may be interested in him: Atlanta, Jets, and maybe the Browns.
Schefter, on Mike and Mike, said he picks Atlanta to be his top prediction for Julius Peppers.

Assuming it is an uncapped year, I can see our owner, Arthur Blank (co-owner of Home Depot, bank as ****), breaking the bank for a position of dire need. I don't know how I would feel about it. I don't think Peppers has that much left in him, but could make an immediate impact...with Gonzalez on offense and possibly Peppers on defense, this team seems primed to make a run soon (and then later when Ryan becomes a complete boss). Atlanta seems to bring in 1 big time player each year (Turner 08, Gonzalez 09) and maybe Peppers is the one this year?
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I don't think the pats are that type of team to spend $$$$$ on a defensive type player.
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Didn't work out too well. Not that they can't try, try again but still. Somehow I think he'll end up a 9er.
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The Pats defense needs pass rush in a big way. I wouldn't be surprised if they signed him.
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Adalius Thomas & Rosy Colvin. The pats seem like the only positions they'll open up the checkbook to acquire are WR & LB.

CB & RB are less expensive FA veterans, but stud FA LBs apparently give BB a chubby.
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CB & RB are less expensive FA veterans, but stud FA LBs apparently give BB a chubby.
I think they will go after him or someone like Merriman in free agency if he's available. BB doesn't like starting young guys at OLB much
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Merriman in NE is definitely something I could see.
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I think Peppers will probably wind up in Atlanta, Peppers said he would like to play in a 3-4 but nothing is better than sticking it to your old team, twice a year.

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Merriman is getting tagged with at least a 1st round tender, is anyone going to give that up? I think not. He will be a bolt for one more year.
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Possible destination for Peppers?
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Here lies the problem for Thompson. He has a very good team thatís one solid offseason from competing for a Super Bowl title, but all his needs will not be met in just the draft. He has to be more open-minded in his approach to free agency and try to fix some of the current concerns on the team before the draft.
He should really give great thought to trying to add a player of the caliber of the Panthersí Julius Peppers. If Peppers is a free agent, heíll command a huge pay day, but he would be a perfect fit coming off the edge to help Clay Matthews rush. One more blue-chip player would really make a difference to the Packers on defense.

This is not to imply that Thompson should spend like a drunken sailor, but he should consider spending for quality. And he has to use every avenue available to improve his team because he canít address every need in just the draft. Heís on the cusp of something very good in Green Bay, and he needs to just make a few moves to get this team over the top.
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I think it all comes down to Atlanta and New England imo.
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For an uncapped year, you can sign him to a big contract and put a massive amount for the first year. The next few small and get big at the end, at which point the team likely would release him. That way it doesn't hurt the cap for the future.

If an Owner doesn't care too much about spending, such as big market teams, overpaying for Peppers wouldn't be a problem if you can do it in a way that doesn't screw you over in the future. For New England, that is huge as they wouldn't have the money to sign him unless they let Wilfork go.

For an uncapped year, you can sign him to a big contract and put a massive amount for the first year. The next few small and get big at the end, at which point the team likely would release him. That way it doesn't hurt the cap for the future.

If an Owner doesn't care too much about spending, such as big market teams, overpaying for Peppers wouldn't be a problem if you can do it in a way that doesn't screw you over in the future. For New England, that is huge as they wouldn't have the money to sign him unless they let Wilfork go.

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He’s on the cusp of something very good in Green Bay, and he needs to just make a few moves to get this team over the top.
I strongly disagree with that. Green Bay looked great at the end of the season. The offense looked amazing with a very young Rodgers. The defense finished second. Aslong as the defense can figure out a way to stop bunch formations they will contend for years.

Getting Peppers would definitly help, but they are still contenders without him.

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