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Old 02-02-2010, 08:34 PM    (permalink
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Yeah this is a very deep draft, and I understand your reasoning. But we essintially adding a member to the offense yall run who will start for sure and do his part and do it well. and I look to trade a next year 2nd to get back up in the draft, and try to get a OL. Getting McCoy helps out. Also, I have a deal in place with another team that if their player falls and noone is a major steal i am trading back into the 10's and picking up a 3rd. Thoughts?
I think that is a decent deal, but not if Iupati, Graham, Wilson, or a big steal are available. Picking up an additional 3rd can be a great thing in this draft, but not at the cost of missing out on what a lot of people think are sure things.
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You should try to trade our 2nd, J-Pete and 2011 2nd to San Fran for #13 and draft Joe Haden!
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1. Gerald McCoy
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1. Gerald McCoy
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I would love this for the Lions, very much. I do hope Wilson is still there by the start of the second round.
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Yeah I figured yall would like so far, not to mention the addition of Karney!!!
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sounds good to me.
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I would love this for the Lions, very much. I do hope Wilson is still there by the start of the second round.
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If you tell me that we got one of Mike Johnson, Jon Asamoah, Dexter McCluster or Montario Hardesty in the third, it will be boner-iffic.
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So let's say hypothetically the Rams go the Bradford route, that would mean both Suh and McCoy are there for the taking, who do we take?
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So let's say hypothetically the Rams go the Bradford route, that would mean both Suh and McCoy are there for the taking, who do we take?
Ahhh ... that question. Very nice for us. If Mayhew is as sharp as he thinks he is (marinate on that) he should be on the horn to trade that sucka #2 pick. (San Francisco, New England, Philadelphia holla!) I mean likely some portion of a deal would be in place pre draft for said QB (like the past few years) & the suspense of who is #1 is gone. Thanks St. Louis ;o) So the trade is already in the works ... we acquire multiple picks & trade back to get an Eric Berry, Joe Haden, CJ Spiller, Anthony Davis, Derrick Morgan, Brian Price etc heck, McCoy might even be there depending on how far we trade back?!

If St. Louis reveals their hand early, we have so much leverage in this draft.
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So let's say hypothetically the Rams go the Bradford route, that would mean both Suh and McCoy are there for the taking, who do we take?
suh. i like his production, vision, and hands better than mccoy's quickness. i would be open to a trade down if it was fair value and not too far down the board.
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Suh- 55 GP 200 TKL 56 TFL 26.5 sacks
McCoy- 40 GP 83 TKL 33 TFL 14.5 sacks

Both are awesome, but Suh is just sick, thus I would go Suh.

I also would not mind trading down if a good deal came along. Hopefully St. Louis takes Bradford and Seattle really likes Clausen. Washington could pose a threat to Seattle, forcing them to move up. If we could swap picks with Seattle (2 for 6) for their 2nd rounder (pick 40) that would be awesome...
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Suh- 55 GP 200 TKL 56 TFL 26.5 sacks
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Both are awesome, but Suh is just sick, thus I would go Suh.

I also would not mind trading down if a good deal came along. Hopefully St. Louis takes Bradford and Seattle really likes Clausen. Washington could pose a threat to Seattle, forcing them to move up. If we could swap picks with Seattle (2 for 6) for their 2nd rounder (pick 40) that would be awesome...
Its a great thing college stats are a direct correlation to pro success.
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they both played in the same conference against the exact same competition so these mean a little bit more than average.
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I do think the TFLs and sacks are more important than tackles or INTs, especially from the DT position.
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Don't make me throw Tebow's stats up here boys! ;o)
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Regardless, 200 tackles from a DT is ridiculous....
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Regardless, 200 tackles from a DT is ridiculous....
It really is completely insane, although I do want to say that McCoy's linemates have been better than Suh's. Not to take anything away from Suh's freakishness, but he was one of the few playmaker @ nebraska.

Regardless: Suh is creepy good. But saying he's THAT much better than anyone else really isn't fair by McCoy.
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It really is completely insane, although I do want to say that McCoy's linemates have been better than Suh's. Not to take anything away from Suh's freakishness, but he was one of the few playmaker @ nebraska.
That just shows his stats were more amazing, when he was double and tripled teamed haha
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I think for DT they mean more than say QB. Especially when you add in the factors of the conference he was in, the pressure he faced when being doubled constantly and the fact that his stats are so great for his position. You don't often see that many tackles from a DT. The stats are just a measure of production.
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Alright guys, getting a DT and CB. Whats next? OG? DE?
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Alright guys, getting a DT and CB. Whats next? OG? DE?
Who's available at each position right now?
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Ricky Sapp is still available, I'd take him if I was Zach.
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OG is Mike Johnson available?
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I'd say the BPA is Jonathan Dwyer, gotta give your boy Karney someone to block for!
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