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Old 03-30-2007, 02:18 PM    (permalink
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You mean the two time heisman finalist? Are you kidding me?
Jason White won a heisman.....pretty weak "point".
Leinart as a QB versus Ken freakin Dorsey
NO contest.
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You must be to young to remember Dorsey's greatness, truely a game manager at its finest. 86 Tds to 28 ints in 3.5years as a starter.
The epitome of how a system can inflate a QB's stats.
Let's see...Dorsey the athlete / college QB ...pretty lame. His surrounding
cast...brilliant.

Leinart as an athelte ..eh, not so much...as a college QB ? perhaps one of the 10 best ever.

Seriously, you all talk about the "depth" ...how does guys watching from the sidelines alter the score. They don't. If the question was "Who had the MOST talent as a WHOLE team ?" then I might be inclined to say Da U.
But the question was who would win a GAME between the 2. and seriously the USC team went almost 3 years without losing. The only reason they did was because Vince Young had a miracle last drive.
It's USC ...and probably by 10.
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Jason White won a heisman.....pretty weak "point".
Leinart as a QB versus Ken freakin Dorsey
NO contest.
This has nothing to do with pro players. Jason White was a great college QB, as was Dorsey.
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The epitome of how a system can inflate a QB's stats.
Let's see...Dorsey the athlete / college QB ...pretty lame. His surrounding
cast...brilliant.

Leinart as an athelte ..eh, not so much...as a college QB ? perhaps one of the 10 best ever.

Seriously, you all talk about the "depth" ...how does guys watching from the sidelines alter the score. They don't. If the question was "Who had the MOST talent as a WHOLE team ?" then I might be inclined to say Da U.
But the question was who would win a GAME between the 2. and seriously the USC team went almost 3 years without losing. The only reason they did was because Vince Young had a miracle last drive.
It's USC ...and probably by 10.
The UM team lost twice in 3 years. The USC team lost, guess how many games? 2.
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So stats are the end to all means ?...are you seriously suggesting that ?
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Where did I even remotely suggest that?
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So stats are the end to all means ?...are you seriously suggesting that ?
I think Draftguru was just stating that being a good Pro QB has nothing to do being a good College QB.
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01 Miami was stacked. 42.6-9.75 average score of their games against 6 top 25 teams, which 5 of them they played to end the season in a row. They killed FL. ST. at home where they had won something like 37 straight. This is prob the best college football team ever, they had the attitude and everything, they were not going to be beat, their close games were not even ever that close. 16 of the players on this team were drafted in the 1st round eventually, that has never happened, and may never happen again. Another impressive record, set the NCAA record for largest margin of victory against consecutive ranked opponents 124-7 (Syracuse/Wash). Those two hits by Vilma in the 4th Quarter of the National Championship game just put an excellent cap to the season and was what that team was all about.
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It's Miami and I don't think its a contest.

USC at its best was ALMOST as talented, but nowhere near as tough, mean, and athletic as Miami.
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severe punishment u r wrong to question against the 2001 miami team how about u and usc go get a new coach and win a national championship in the first year i bet u ur usc team can do that wow yu must have never seen ken dorsey play he used to take over games in less than a minute and u say matt leinart is better when he tkes freekin 3 minutes to take over a game and also dont think 2004 usc is the best because u know what the only reason why u won ur national championship by a huge margin of points is because adrian peterson went down with an injury in that game in the 1st quarter and dont say it doesnt matter about an injury because u know what teams that are gonna win a game and lose a star player have to get it together ur lucky that you didnt lose leinart bush and ur stupid 2004 usc defense.

kellen winslow: WE DONT CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT THIS U.

i dont think usc had a great player who can hype up his teamates dont say reggie bush because he did not say anything like that in a game

So why dont u just admit ur some little kid who has started watching football 3 years ago and does not even know anything about football
the only team that can beat the 2001 miami team is no one and just wait u little brady quinn fan because the U will be back for the 6th title very soon
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severe punishment u r wrong to question against the 2001 miami team how about u and usc go get a new coach and win a national championship in the first year i bet u ur usc team can do that wow yu must have never seen ken dorsey play he used to take over games in less than a minute and u say matt leinart is better when he tkes freekin 3 minutes to take over a game and also dont think 2004 usc is the best because u know what the only reason why u won ur national championship by a huge margin of points is because adrian peterson went down with an injury in that game in the 1st quarter and dont say it doesnt matter about an injury because u know what teams that are gonna win a game and lose a star player have to get it together ur lucky that you didnt lose leinart bush and ur stupid 2004 usc defense.

kellen winslow: WE DONT CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT THIS U.

i dont think usc had a great player who can hype up his teamates dont say reggie bush because he did not say anything like that in a game

So why dont u just admit ur some little kid who has started watching football 3 years ago and does not even know anything about football
the only team that can beat the 2001 miami team is no one and just wait u little brady quinn fan because the U will be back for the 6th title very soon
dude your retarted, if your gonna say somethin at least have it be right. Adrian Peterson did not go down with an injury in that game man, he played the whole game and USC handed it to him all game. OU thought they were hot **** going into that game and came out a bunch of girls. USC handed it too them that year and it was a very dominate performance. Ill say it again the think the Miami team would win, but get your facts straght man
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