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Old 07-24-2012, 02:34 PM    (permalink
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They aren't getting a better player in a deal for Tajuan.
My question is why would they want to trade him at all?
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They aren't getting a better player in a deal for Tajuan.
BS you have no idea.
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BS you have no idea.
Who else could they reasonably get that's better?
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Who else could they reasonably get that's better?
Walker could be a very nice piece in a deal for Hanley. Also they arent being forced to trade him. Headley doesn't make them that much better for the next 2 years. If the best they could get is Chase then KEEP him.
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Orioles and Marlins in discussion for Hanley. Hanley and Buck together, oh boy.
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I didn't knock Headley but even with all that giving up a top 10 prospect in baseball for a player like him is a bad deal as far as I'm concerned. Headley is probably one of the more underrated players in the game but that's still a bad deal.
In the context that the Mariners are desperate for offense and the M's have a couple of other future major league starters in Hultzen and Paxton then i think it might make sense. Walker has been less than perfect this year at Jackson.
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In the context that the Mariners are desperate for offense and the M's have a couple of other future major league starters in Hultzen and Paxton then i think it might make sense. Walker has been less than perfect this year at Jackson.
He's also 19 pitching in AA, his stats mean very little, especially given that he's still striking out almost a batter per inning. He's their best pitching prospect and one of the best prospects in all of baseball. You don't give someone with as much potential as him for a solid 3B just because you have a couple future major league starters and desperately need offense.
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Walker could be a very nice piece in a deal for Hanley. Also they arent being forced to trade him. Headley doesn't make them that much better for the next 2 years. If the best they could get is Chase then KEEP him.
Headley > Hanley.
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MLBTR says the Angels are interested Rzepczynski and would be willing to send Bourjos to the Cardinals.

Not sure how I feel about this, scrabble has been garbage this season but was Sooo good last year in the postseason vs lefties. And its not like Bourjos would be a starter, no way does he take Jay's spot. But having a ++ defender on the bench and a right handed bat intrigues me. Plus if Fuentes comes to st Louis and has success in the lefty specialist role, cards really wouldn't need scrabble.
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MLBTR says the Angels are interested Rzepczynski and would be willing to send Bourjos to the Cardinals.

Not sure how I feel about this, scrabble has been garbage this season but was Sooo good last year in the postseason vs lefties. And its not like Bourjos would be a starter, no way does he take Jay's spot. But having a ++ defender on the bench and a right handed bat intrigues me. Plus if Fuentes comes to st Louis and has success in the lefty specialist role, cards really wouldn't need scrabble.
Bourjos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scrabble. Take that deal and sprint. Bourjos can still be a solid hitter if given the proper time, and he's one of the best defensive outfielders I've ever seen.
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Fine then, Walker would be a nice piece for Upton whom the D'Backs are willing to trade. Walker for Headley is terrible.
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Bourjos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scrabble. Take that deal and sprint. Bourjos can still be a solid hitter if given the proper time, and he's one of the best defensive outfielders I've ever seen.
This I agree with.
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Fine then, Walker would be a nice piece for Upton whom the D'Backs are willing to trade. Walker for Headley is terrible.
I just don't think it would be.
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Seattle should have taken Rendon if they were so concerned about 3b. Hultzen is a back of the rotation starter.
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Well you're wrong in this case if you could handle that. You're telling me if you had Taijuan Walker, a possible #1/good #2 and you traded him for Chase Headley that you wouldn't complain?
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Rendon's ankle is made of paper. I think Hultzen is a solid number 3 though, although picking at number 2 in a pretty solid draft, you should hope for more than that.

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Well you're wrong in this case if you could handle that. You're telling me if you had Taijuan Walker, a possible #1/good #2 and you traded him for Chase Headley that you wouldn't complain?
I wouldn't, no. I think Headley is a really good player and tremendously underrated, and would help them a ton. Seattle has enough pitching depth anyway. This is a team that has started Chone Figgins at third for a lot of games, and Chone Figgins is horrendous.
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Seattle should have taken Rendon if they were so concerned about 3b. Hultzen is a back of the rotation starter.
Have to agreee with Brody that Hultzen looks better than a back of the rotation guy. I think he can be a #2 guy behind Felix for several years.

I would agree with those that think that Walker is probably a better value than Headley going forward but pitchers are fragile by nature and an every day guy who can hit in the middle of the lineup is going to mean more wins for the Mariners.
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Bourjos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scrabble. Take that deal and sprint. Bourjos can still be a solid hitter if given the proper time, and he's one of the best defensive outfielders I've ever seen.

There is no way the Angels are trading Bourjos for just a RP. I think this is just media speculating and with Trout doing his thing, Bourjos is the popular name that's being thrown around in every deal. He brings too much to the table(especially on D) that makes him much more valuable than any RP could be

He's a crappy hitter, though
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Have to agreee with Brody that Hultzen looks better than a back of the rotation guy. I think he can be a #2 guy behind Felix for several years.
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I'm not seeing it. Probably my bias though as I didn't think he was a top 3 prospect. I'd deal him before Walker.
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Is this Billy Hamilton hype getting a bit nuts?
He just got to Double A after the break and he's gonna eventually be an OFer in my opinion. He's also struggled somewhat since moving up but you've got to like his speed and his ability to get OB. He's exactly the type of player we need at the top of our lineup but I think the jury is still out on him because we'll have to see how he handles moving up the ranks.
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I'm not seeing it. Probably my bias though as I didn't think he was a top 3 prospect. I'd deal him before Walker.
Our #2 guy here now is Jason Vargas so i probably don't know what a real #2 looks like. Seattle is desperate for some thump in the middle of that lineup so the temptation to do something is probably clouding their thought procees or maybe it's just mine.
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Wasnt Ryan Roberts good last year? Apparently hes been designated for assignment. Could be a nice pickup for a team looking for some pop off the bench.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:22 PM    (permalink
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Wasnt Ryan Roberts good last year? Apparently hes been designated for assignment. Could be a nice pickup for a team looking for some pop off the bench.
He's pretty worthless.
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He's pretty worthless.
Better then Tyler Greene? That's all I care about.
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Wasnt Ryan Roberts good last year? Apparently hes been designated for assignment. Could be a nice pickup for a team looking for some pop off the bench.
Yes but I don't think anyone expected him to repeat that, was the main reason I didn't like the Kubel signing wanted to spend the money on a 3B. Most people believe a trade is already lined up just working out the details.
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